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Diamond back

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:09 pm
by ajaxmagic
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/63 ... n=441d34cf
Here is a preview of diamond back playing cards.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:29 am
by vasta41
Reminds me of a poor mans Artifice.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:21 am
by volantangel
All design aside, your proportions are absolutely terrible.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:11 am
by Bikefanatic
NEXT!!


One of the most unappealing decks I ever seen. Looks like no effort was put into it.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:22 pm
by ajaxmagic
All design aside, your proportions are absolutely terrible.
That's perspective.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:25 pm
by ajaxmagic
NEXT!!


One of the most unappealing decks I ever seen. Looks like no effort was put into it.
It's been designed to look vintage and a lot of work went into it. I don't want the magician to be holding a art board. Just simple. It's like detailing a car. I think it's very appealing.

I worked in a magic shop for fifteen year I know what people want.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:36 pm
by ajaxmagic
Reminds me of a poor mans Artifice.
If your thinking better than artifice the your right. Asking $4500 isn't poor.
They remind me of nuggets or Friars. Like a metal of honour.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:28 pm
by jerichoholic
Well 2016 is off to a great start :ugdance:

Anyone watch the video? It's not even the same deck and not the best handling.

Also, already selling a similar deck on his website, also ironically called Artifice :roll:

http://www.members.shaw.ca/cardfx/artifice.html

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:40 pm
by ajaxmagic
I took them off the website. They weren't bicycle.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:34 pm
by MagikFingerz
ajaxmagic wrote:
All design aside, your proportions are absolutely terrible.
That's perspective.
Well, from my perspective the card looks like it's bridge sized, the back design is off-center, and the box looks square.
ajaxmagic wrote:I worked in a magic shop for fifteen year I know what people want.
Well then, what are you doing here asking for our opinions? :ugthink:

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:25 pm
by ajaxmagic
An artist needs people to observe his work. They are poker size maybe they look thinner compared to the box. The box is sideways. I meant the perspective of the box. :D I printed it out and put it on my wall as my vision board of what I would like to achieve.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:37 pm
by volantangel
ajaxmagic wrote:
All design aside, your proportions are absolutely terrible.
That's perspective.
As an engineer, your perspective is terrible warped. Go back and look at how other designers render single cards and tuck boxes. Oh btw look at how others design as well, at the moment you have nothing here.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:38 pm
by ajaxmagic
here is an update. :D thanks for the help.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:39 pm
by ajaxmagic
custom tuck

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:09 pm
by Bikefanatic
We'll see how many people want this deck, it might not fund. Not all Bicycles sell.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:24 pm
by ajaxmagic
Thanks for your enthusiasm.
now to lighten the mood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEF2E2BcakQ

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:06 am
by Jock1971
Hi there Alex.
Unfortunately the cards are not for me i`m afraid.
Here`s a few thing`s i`ve noticed about your kickstarter page.
The $4,500 goal seems a little low for Bicycle branded cards.
There are not enough pledge levels, you need levels with 2 packs, 3 packs etc and i don`t think anyone would go for 100 packs
The video has a different deck than the one your trying to produce, if you don`t have a demo of the diamond deck you should just have a short video of yourself explaining why your trying to produce a pack of cards, some background of yourself etc.
All the best with your campaign i think you`ll need it.
Jase

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:58 am
by ajaxmagic
Thanks Jase I updated the rewards compared to other projects. I got a quote from bicycle and $4500 is fine. I think the edit in rewards would save clicking.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:56 am
by jerichoholic
Bikefanatic wrote:We'll see how many people want this deck, it might not fund. Not all Bicycles sell.
This is 100% fact! There are so many people who have decided to launch decks on Kickstarter as Bicycle branded, probably thinking they would fund instantly, but this far from the truth, many have failed because their decks weren't that good. In most cases if the creator would have just launched their deck, produced by MPC or NPCC with a much smaller goal, they might have had success with their project because the art was fine but the goal was just too high to achieve. It's even worse when someone tries to launch 2 or 3 decks at the same time.

On a side note, you claim to be some kind of a magician, however upon checking out your site, it would seem that you give away the tricks in your videos unintentionally and they aren't even your tricks for the most part.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:29 pm
by ajaxmagic
Hi
I have many years of experience. They aren't given away unintentionally. you might be a magician your self so you know what to look for. Thanks for checking out my site. I'm also part of db squared.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:05 pm
by jerichoholic
Sorry but that isn't true. In Kings of a Different Castle it is pretty clear you place the 4 kings under the top card, whether it be the move or the angle, it wasn't good, anyone can see it. The video for Reset is ever worse. You are clearly holding 5 cards and then state you have just the 4 aces, the hell? That is not professional at all and anyone can see that. It is a poor performance of a Chris Kenner trick. Tricks which you probably don't even have a right to sell anyway.

Anyhow sorry for going a bit off topic, but this just brings your credibility into question.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/cardfx/dvd.html

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:18 pm
by CBJ
I think the comment he left for himself on the project is hilarious


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Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:19 pm
by MagikFingerz
Thanks for pointing that out, Victor. Watching those videos made me laugh :lol:

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:25 pm
by alvinhy
Oh talk about clash of names here :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:28 pm
by jerichoholic
Yeah no comments on the project except his, lol. Don't worry Alvin, we're all backing the real Diamond deck.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:38 pm
by Bikefanatic
Damn this thread already made it to page 2. We know it'll fail. We're not hating, we're experts stating our (true) opinions. If opinions are true then they are facts.

Re: Diamond back (wap)

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:57 pm
by Räpylätassu
This guy can't be serious. There is just no way.

He opened a thread some time ago that only said "Are epcc and MPC same? Looks like for what I searched"

I mean what..? He asks if two companies with different names are the same company? And then he Googles it and somehow comes to the conclusion that they are the same company...? Not only are his designs pure garbage, but he does not have even the basic knowledge about playing cards and he cannot even use Google. In many of his posts his english is very poorly written.

My guess: This guy is most likely 6 year old.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:57 pm
by ajaxmagic
Okay okay. Everyone knows I worked for the shop. Give me some credit. You're all just jealous of my diamond back.

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:03 pm
by alvinhy
I don't usually do this but I quite like the back. It got potential.
Did some quick alterations with your design :drool:

Re: Diamond back

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:50 pm
by ajaxmagic
You devil you. What form of witchcraft did you do to make this. Love it. So you know how much work it is to make those lines. It's nice but I was trying to make something I've kind of seen before in a vision. It turned out exactly like I had invisioned it to be. Yours looks like flames. I like your diamond back cards as well. When I was younger I did a lot of card design with An old program. I think I've designed it before.
I'm just hoping it will be live soon.