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this must be a joke. $200 goal???

and these cards are readily available everywhere.

I asked the question on the comments. I was under the impression this was a new deck. or is it the same? Weird that LPCC would run a KS

man, so many things wrong with this...


"A sequel to the first Alchemy of England playing cards" -- there has already been 2 different versions of the alchemy.. and this looks like a reprint of the original... which you can buy at shopbicyclecards for 3.99

They used the exact same pictures from shopbicycle cards!!! http://www.bicyclecards.com/products/pl ... gland-deck" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


"These are playing cards unlike any you've seen before." -- it's a reprint... we've seen it!

and that goal... wtf!



Is this really from Legends?? would they stoop this low?

This seems to be the definition of scam. I believe they have nothing to do with LPCC.

It says it's from John Warnick

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/19 ... reator_bio" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Barberton, OH


I don't recognize this name

Let me contact LPCC and ask

EDIT: yeah this is really looking like a fake out Sent a note to lawrence /LPCC let's see what they say

Definitely a scam.

The profile picture is a pic of Author John Mayer

https://www.google.ca/search?tbs=sbi:AM ... 8y9wW3WynQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and

http://www.amazon.co.uk/John-Major-The- ... 0006530745" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


The power of Google

It' amazing how many people do not read the comments. 7 more people pledged on this project since we posted the warnings

That's pretty unsettling. But as they say "a fool and his money..."

I find every aspect of this campaign upsetting.

From the bone heads who are actually pledging to the fact that it even exists and KS approved it to launch.

I hope everyone is reporting it to Kickstarter. We cannot allow this guy to get away with this.

Okay, I'm going to launch my next project soon: "Artisans by Theory 11 coming to KS"!

Jesus, some people just beg to get scammed...

Got an email back from Lawrence Sullivan confirming that this is obviously a fraud. But you are getting close to 70 morons that can't read comments pledging. sad

badpete69 wrote:Got an email back from Lawrence Sullivan confirming that this is obviously a fraud. But you are getting close to 70 morons that can't read comments pledging. sad

Never underestimate the stupidity of people in groups of one or more...

I had a hacker friend a number of years back. She conducted a social experiment that consisted of a virus she wrote that placed an icon on the desktop with the title "Warning! Do not open this! It is a virus! Delete!" She had infected nearly a million computers in a month. The virus flashed a full screen image that said "Your an idiot. Why would you launch a virus?" and then deleted itself.

As for the project, I pledged, wrote a comment, cancelled and then reported the campaign.

As a community we cannot all this to happen, we all need to step up and report this scum! I hope that Lawrence does as well, since it's his company name being used.

Pledged just to comment. Also reported the project. Really hope people see this at some point and cancel.

Did you see the scammer is now making comments, laughing in our faces basically. I hope they shut him down soon

I reported him as well.

Reported of course, I wrote to him that he is a scammer XD
his reply: "get a life"
lol

I reported him twice hehe. what an utter moron

Goes to show you what kind of idiots are out there though.

Reported for reselling and misrepresenting himself.

He is now creating fake KS accounts to leave pretend comments from backers liking the deck what a rookie but still a moron

Interesting to see that KS staff doesn't work holiday weekends haha. I have a feeling this will come down like a hammer on Monday or Tuesday.

Is it possible that the person doing this was part of this forum at one time and got booted or had a failed Kickstarter project with criticism from this forum or the playing card community in general?

Talisman wrote:Is it possible that the person doing this was part of this forum at one time and got booted or had a failed Kickstarter project with criticism from this forum or the playing card community in general?

Well this aint victor (just kidding)

Not many people get booted on UC, unless you were running a scam, which is what this is. Robert Butler isnt that stupid to make an outright scam

The audacity of this scam amazes me. The numbers right now are 105 backers for $6339. That would be an average of $60 per backer! Geez, I already reported it for misrepresentation but, this suspicious funding is ridiculous.

DragonSoul wrote:The audacity of this scam amazes me. The numbers right now are 105 backers for $6339. That would be an average of $60 per backer! Geez, I already reported it for misrepresentation but, this suspicious funding is ridiculous.

The jerk obviously has pledged from another account to secure funding so that even if some backers cancel, he will still be able to steal some others' money.

No it isn't me! lol

Seems like he's created at least 2 fake accounts, of which who knows how much he pledged from each, to create false misrepresentation and post fake comments!