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All about "№ 17" - Lorenzo's new brand

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Hello!

so, this mystery17 is not a mystery anymore.
Long story short: Mike is crazy and me too, even more.

I did this simple and eclectic deck for 2 events:
- launch of http://www.CardLauncher.com
- launch of Stockholm 17 Playing Cards website http://www.stockholm17.com and the related facebook page http://www.facebook.com/stockholm17

Stockholm17 is the name I´m going to use to group all my decks, it was going to be a mess with a facebook page for each deck. Now this is the beacon for my design. Check the galleries, uploaded every single card of the deck.

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Kardify wrote something as well: http://www.kardify.com/2014/07/revealed ... ds-by.html

I am aware that Deck17 looks a bit like Requiem, but I didnt have so much time.
This is version 01, promotional version for Cardlauncher. In 2015 I will redesign it, improve it, and make - maybe - a second version "unbranded" (from CardLauncher)
I hope you like it
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Re: № 17

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Lorenzo as always it looks great. Good work
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Looks great, Lorenzo! I really love the back design. Great work, as always!
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Maddest Hammer wrote:Looks great, Lorenzo! I really love the back design. Great work, as always!
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That Joker, especially on the tuck with the spade! In for that alone.

Back and the rest are really nice too.
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Amazing! :)
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To tell you the truth I like the aesthetics of this deck, as playing cards, more than the Requiem. It's a very clean and graceful design, has a great joker, and I love the colours.
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Designkiller wrote:This is version 01, promotional version for Cardlauncher. In 2015 I will redesign it, improve it, and make - maybe - a second version "unbranded" (from CardLauncher)
I hope you like it
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No, I LOVE it! Only thing is I really, really need you to make an unbranded and affordable 2nd version of this. As much as I really want this deck there is no way I'm going to spend $70 on a deck ever. I'm sure they will sell as they are lovely, but I have other expensive hobbies. Unless I am misunderstanding this - will there be a way to get these outside of the private reserve or prizes?

Also, you need to update your sig to include your new facebook and webites. ;)

EDIT - make that joker on the tuck into a shirt, I'll buy a dozen. Well, at least one anyhow.
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ecNate wrote:
Designkiller wrote:This is version 01, promotional version for Cardlauncher. In 2015 I will redesign it, improve it, and make - maybe - a second version "unbranded" (from CardLauncher)
I hope you like it
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No, I LOVE it! Only thing is I really, really need you to make an unbranded and affordable 2nd version of this. As much as I really want this deck there is no way I'm going to spend $70 on a deck ever. I'm sure they will sell as they are lovely, but I have other expensive hobbies. Unless I am misunderstanding this - will there be a way to get these outside of the private reserve or prizes?

Also, you need to update your sig to include your new facebook and webites. ;)

EDIT - make that joker on the tuck into a shirt, I'll buy a dozen. Well, at least one anyhow.
Where does it say they'll cost $70? As far as I can tell these will only be given to every 25th new backer on CL, and probably some other promotional uses.
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Re: № 17

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He has a handful up for sale "soon" in the Stockholm 17 website.

http://www.stockholm17.com/#!buy/c1ifp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Eoghann wrote:He has a handful up for sale "soon" in the Stockholm 17 website.

http://www.stockholm17.com/#!buy/c1ifp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ah. That Buy button on his site did nothing when I clicked it. The link works though, so it was probably something wrong on my end.

That's a Private Reserve though, aren't they different from the regular ones?
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Hi all,
thank you for the feedback, great that you like it. :)

Oh yes, that price ($70) is only for my personal reserve which is superlimited (signed as well). They are not different, that's a price I´ve set based on the available quantity of this version. I know it´s a lot, but on one side I dont want to give it away so easily since I will have only a couple of bricks for myself (or less).
The second version (v02) will cost like a normal deck... but I need some time to improve it. Now I have to focus on heretic.

On the facebook page http://www.facebook.com/stockholm17 you can see some interesting "homage" to the standard courts:
Or on Kardify: http://www.kardify.com/2014/07/revealed ... ds-by.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Love it! I really hope I'm a 25. Some resemblances yes, but a much better design IMO. You keep outdoing yourself.
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I agree, you and Mike are nuts. Lol. Beautiful deck Lorenzo.
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I don't care how much the private reserve deck cost. I'm going to buy it as soon as it goes on sale. It's pretty and I'm not broke so price doesn't really matter at all to me. I understand that's not the case for everyone but it's great that Lorenzo has the v02 coming along that will be more affordable.

Again, lovely deck Lorenzo !
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I really like this deck!...the Joker, the Courts, especially the Jack of Clubs which is my card. I look forward to v02 but hope to get one of the private reserve decks too.
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You do amazing work!!
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ecNate wrote:
Designkiller wrote:This is version 01, promotional version for Cardlauncher. In 2015 I will redesign it, improve it, and make - maybe - a second version "unbranded" (from CardLauncher)
I hope you like it
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No, I LOVE it! Only thing is I really, really need you to make an unbranded and affordable 2nd version of this. As much as I really want this deck there is no way I'm going to spend $70 on a deck ever. I'm sure they will sell as they are lovely, but I have other expensive hobbies. Unless I am misunderstanding this - will there be a way to get these outside of the private reserve or prizes?

Also, you need to update your sig to include your new facebook and webites. ;)

EDIT - make that joker on the tuck into a shirt, I'll buy a dozen. Well, at least one anyhow.
OK, I realize I created this mess myself, and Lorenzo can't say because it's supposed to be hush-hush, just like I couldn't announce this until this morning at 7:30AM per our agreement to coordinate things across Facebook, UC and Stockholm17.com as well.

Here's the deal: Lorenzo's deck I knew would be in demand. I intended to get 250 of each of the two decks (the other is Eli Retschlag's 'Scarlet Pearl' "Radical 80's Throwback" magicians' deck with 58 cards, a couple of gaffs thrown in and both are MPC's latest 310gsm French black core casino bond paper stock - absolutely and without question you cannot tell these from Expert decks or even USPCC decks except perhaps those made with the latest paper they slipstreamed into production about two months ago. UC2014/Grotesque are printed on that paper stock. It is noticeably better than previous "Bicycle" brand paper or even previous "Bee" brand paper. It _is_ the new "Bee" stock/bond.

Here's the deal: without even asking. I changed the order for Deck Nr 17 to 530 pieces, and 24 of those are being shipped directly to Stockholm. A dozen of each is being shipped to Joey Heinenger at The Flush in Queensland Australia for use as prizes in the International Caridstry Open, along with a 'split' brick of Grotesque decks - already on the way (all the above, likely arriving Monday or latest Tuesday because they were all air freighted). I got a single of each overnighted to me to insure that every single card in both decks was perfect - and they were, so the rest were printed Friday, tucks made Saturday and assembled Monday & Tuesday and 3D hologo seals applied yesterday and drop-shipped three different places yesterday. I knew that people would want these, so I got enough to do so.

Now, I'm not trying to create an artificial rarity, these decks both will be CrowdFunded on CL and printed in v2 by Expert PCC or someone else, so it's not like they won't be available later. However, these first decks will not be reprinted. The quantity promised for prizes is 115 each plus 12 for the #ICO so 127 total per.

That leaves me around 100 Scarlet Pearl and 300 or so of Deck Nr 17. Those will go on sale on the 20th from The Deck Refinery for $25 each plus $8 Priority Mail shipping, or both for $50 + $10 Priority. I know I'm going to catch hell, but seriously - these are all there are and there really should be that many. By design they were intended for CL only, period.

Never-the-less, there will be 50 pairs, 50 Scarlet Pearl individually and 250 Deck Nr 17 available individually. Shipping to Canada is slightly more and "Rest of World" is of course a bit more as well but there's not much I can do about that, postage is what they (USPS) charge me. I'll probably end up eating a good bit of it because I cut the RoW shipping too close and if more of them go overseas than I planned it will eat into that $25 without question.

If you want one, check out CL on August 15th and pledge for Dark Venexiana, GW's Brimstone 2 or one of the other small artists I picked to run on "Day 1". I'm never going to start more than 4 or 5 decks at one time, just ain't happening. I respect people's wallets and I'm not a greedy person.

If you are so darned ready to get one, you can, just go to TDR Offers right now and get it. I'll go ahead and start shipping them next Wednesday and they will go out in the order purchased basically 2-to-3 day to 5-digit ZIP code (US) and probably one to two weeks for Canada and lord only knows for overseas. I don't know about customs and the delays you have to put up with there. Those overseas and Canada shipments will take an extra day because of the customs form 22 that has to be affixed to every single package whether or not they are playing card decks or gold bars.

Please - do NOT spread this around. It's for my UC users only - IF you want one, and nobody is twisting your arm to buy one - period. You want it, you can get it - starting now. I didn't plan to do this until about the 20th like I said, but - until half of them are gone you can buy them for UC members only. Put your UC member name in the "Note to Shipper" or your money will be refunded - period. They are not for everybody now, and if you guys buy 25 of both, 25 of Scarlet Pearl and 125 of Deck Nr 17 I'll lock the page out until the 20th. Until then, feel free - IF you want one or both.

Like I said, I created this pooh and Lorenzo stepped right in it with his boot. Sorry, buddy! If you don't think a deck made in such limited quantities is worth $25, then don't buy it, it's just that simple. I never intended to sell them at all, they were intended as prizes but I predicted (correctly) that this is exactly what would happen.

MULTIPLE ORDERS FROM ONE USERNAME WILL BE REFUNDED LESS THE 3-4% PAYPAL FEE THEY CHARGE. PayPal is the ONLY way to get them, sorry - I just didn't have time to arrange for anything else.

I _wish_ I could do it for $6, but I have to pay someone to do shipping unless Donna (wife) goes postal on me, and nobody wants that!

UPDATE: Shipping US Priority is $8 for one deck, $10 for both. My bad, sorry -PayPal steals 4% of even postage.
Please use the same username here if you haven't already signed up over on TDR.bike website, and it puts that in for you without you needing to do so.
Obviously Joe is one step ahead of me again, and I don't know why the hidden blue link to "Send Note To Seller" doesn't show up.

Obviously, he also made it so you have to be registered, I believe, which is to encourage people to go ahead and create a support account for CL as well.
ALL future retail sales will be 'over there" as opposed to here so there is a VERY clear demarcation between UC and anything retail.
I know we've done several things here before, but you have to remember that I didn't have a support forum to utilize before...
US is all Priority Mail. I should have fixed "Express" for Canada which might not have been working. That's Priority International in spite of what it shows.
International shipping SHOULD have already been offering 'economy' and 'express' options, but I'm not certain. I (think I) changed "Priority International" to $25 overseas.
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That's bloody awesome, I just put in an order for the No 17 deck. Though there was no comments field to put in my username, I PM'd you about it with my confirm number so it hopefully won't be refunded.
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TLDR version of Mike's update :D :
In addition to private reserve from Lorenzo, Stokholm/No 17 will be given away as CL promo items for registration etc, but another 300 are available for purchase (up to 1/2 now and the rest after the 20th).

THANKS Mike! So to wait and hope I'm lucky or buy now...at least I have the option to buy after.
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There's no field for our user names, and its charging us $8 for shipping, not $6.
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sinjin7 wrote:There's no field for our user names, and its charging us $8 for shipping, not $6.
Yeah, I just got that report, sinjin. I'll go fix the post. Should say $8 for one deck, $10 for both. My bad... It should be $7, but PayPal steals $1.50 from every sale, and there's not a thing I can do about it.
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I ordered one No17. But I wish I could order two! :D
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You don't need to fill in your user id - the button will automatically report your DR username along with your order.

Since Mike went ahead and published the link (whilst I was still making change lol) I've make the offers page visible from the Deck Refinery forums index page.
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rjtomlinson1977 wrote:You do amazing work!!
I'll say thanks for Lorenzo, since I know he's either on the Royal Train or already at Götborg ("we say "Gothenburg", which in the mother tung is [spelled "Mericun] "Yote-borj")for the weekend of well-deserved rest. I didn't let the guy sleep for two weeks, ya'll cut him a li'l slack, please.

OK - second (third?) cut: it appears to be charging the same for one as both as far as shipping: $8. Apparently all that hard work I thought I did on setting up shipping rates tables doesn't work quite as advertised, or at least not as expected. I'll go see if I can repair from PayPal "tools".
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Re: № 17

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I went too fast and bought each deck separate lol.. Oh well all good
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lol actually I'm still here, going to Göteborg on friday

great news mike, good that you can sell the Nr.17 for UCers :)
thank you guys for the support, glad that you like the deck!
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Designkiller wrote:lol actually I'm still here, going to Göteborg on friday

great news mike, good that you can sell the Nr.17 for UCers :)
thank you guys for the support, glad that you like the deck!
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It was either that or they were going to send a posse out and either tar and feather me (and take the decks) or ride me out on a rail (and take the decks). :lol:

I (hope) I fixed shipping, $8/$10 US, Canada should offer Priority International fixed rate, and Overseas should have $25 "Priority Express" option as well. I have to put actual value on the darned packages, folks. Per US law, it's what you paid for them, not including shipping, and no - no matter what you have heard from 'experts' - it's not OK to mark it a 'gift', unless I want to be fined $4000 per package and serve up to 10 years in prison. I'm not that found of the sound of that, no sex and I wouldn't get out until I'm freakin' 70.
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Re: All about "№ 17" - Lorenzo's new brand

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Thanks Mike! Am dee-lighted to get one of Lorenzo's 17s !
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Re: № 17

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Mike Ratledge wrote:Per US law, it's what you paid for them, not including shipping, and no - no matter what you have heard from 'experts' - it's not OK to mark it a 'gift', unless I want to be fined $4000 per package and serve up to 10 years in prison.
True. The way I understand it, it's ok to mark as gift for a reward on a crowdfunding platform, because technically, they are gift, and not purchase. But a direct sale like that, you can't. But I'm not a lawyer.
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