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Wow, never seen a coin with barbed wire on it before... that is... unusual.
Dude really digs his barbed wire!

And what's with the total lack of early birds, Vix?
I know you've spent a fair amount of time browsing here and the forum... thought you'd know better by now!

Good luck to ya, pardner!

really surprised by the lack of early birds, it is a beautiful deck of cards, really like it, and backed it for a deck of each.

A lot of fun this deck in my eyes with all the barbed wire.

I know the early bird specials are kind of a thing, and I get why they exist, but I don't like them. I know, that's insane. But they feel like playing favorites. I've seen decks where I didn't want to pledge because I hadn't been early enough to be one of the cool kids. I actually opted out of the Origins deck completely because of them.

I don't know, maybe I spent too much time in grade school as that dorky kid with the glasses who was always drawing robots instead of playing kickball. I completely understand the concept behind early birds. It's a benefit both to me and to those who have been waiting for the deck to come out. It helps the project gain traction in the early days, when it's important to have a big showing, and it inspires loyalty among those who are keeping an eye out. But it also feels, to me, like the guy with the popped collar who tells the nerd that he has to use the back door because all the pretty girls are in the living room.

Like I said, it's insane. And it's probably just me.

[Hangs head in shame]

The wooden box looks cool and the wood used has a nice story to it. Figures why they're all pledged for. You just might make it for Best Packaging during the Best Decks of 2014.

Good luck!

vixentorgames wrote:I know the early bird specials are kind of a thing, and I get why they exist, but I don't like them. I know, that's insane. But they feel like playing favorites. I've seen decks where I didn't want to pledge because I hadn't been early enough to be one of the cool kids. I actually opted out of the Origins deck completely because of them.

I don't know, maybe I spent too much time in grade school as that dorky kid with the glasses who was always drawing robots instead of playing kickball. I completely understand the concept behind early birds. It's a benefit both to me and to those who have been waiting for the deck to come out. It helps the project gain traction in the early days, when it's important to have a big showing, and it inspires loyalty among those who are keeping an eye out. But it also feels, to me, like the guy with the popped collar who tells the nerd that he has to use the back door because all the pretty girls are in the living room.

Like I said, it's insane. And it's probably just me.

[Hangs head in shame]

"I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and not enough the bad luck of the early worm". Franklin D. Roosevelt

Had a stupid dream last night. I was in a dingy arcade playing a Neverending Story cabinet. Then I moved to the cashier and she was selling Plugged Nickel prototypes. So I bought them thinking "I'm gonna make CBJ jealous".

I walked outside and RSLancastr was on the sidewalk peddling a myriad of inventive toys and old playing cards.

Irrelevant and ridiculous..but I thought I'd share it with y'all.

I am flattered to have had my creation featured in your dreams. A little disturbed, possibly, but flattered.

I'm hoping you guys can help me out here. I just had a reseller ask if he could wholesale the cards. I know there are lots of people who do that, but I don't have the foggiest idea what to say to him. I know there's no way I want him to be able to sell the cards before supporters get them, but I also don't want him selling the cards for less than supporters paid for them. If I supported a deck and then found it cheaper after the Kickstarter ended, I would be furious. I also know that after the Kickstarter, the prices for the decks go up, not down.

Anyone who has any insight would be my hero.

vixentorgames wrote:I am flattered to have had my creation featured in your dreams. A little disturbed, possibly, but flattered.

I'm hoping you guys can help me out here. I just had a reseller ask if he could wholesale the cards. I know there are lots of people who do that, but I don't have the foggiest idea what to say to him. I know there's no way I want him to be able to sell the cards before supporters get them, but I also don't want him selling the cards for less than supporters paid for them. If I supported a deck and then found it cheaper after the Kickstarter ended, I would be furious. I also know that after the Kickstarter, the prices for the decks go up, not down.

Anyone who has any insight would be my hero.

Mike here has had experience dealing with resellers, in the KS campaign with Lorenzo for requiem. He made it clear that resellers would be paying the same price as the backers (of a brick) up to several grosses, and only slightly cheaper after a certain number and yet not drop below a minimum cap (i think requiem was $9 or $9.5). Backers would love you for this, but be ready for the backlash that you are going to get from resellers. All i would say is stand firm with your decision and know what you are doing.

I am more concerned about making sure that the people who support this venture get the best end of the stick. I want them to have their cards before anyone else, and I want them to pay less than anyone else. The number of cards printed will be the same either way - unless something really insane happens, these decks will be limited to 2500 of each design, never to be reprinted. So reselling won't dilute rarity. I just want to make sure it doesn't A) let prices go lower than KS prices, or B) get anyone cards before supporters get their cards.

the redesign (relaunch) goes live June 1, keep in touch here: http://prefundia.com/projects/view/plug ... ards/1409/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and they will be USPCC cards!

To reiterate Magic Orthodoxy's point, and to clarify - we're going live at 1PM CST for the relaunch. If you sign up at the Prefundia page you will be notified when we launch. Thank you again to everyone who helped with the redesign.

Oh, and to thank everyone who has paid attention this whole time, we have a handful of early birds. You can save on everything from a single deck to a full brick - but you'll probably want to be there the first day.

These will be on Kickstarter again right? I like the redesign of them without the barbwired borders. I wish the Rusted Tin version was available but maybe sometime after the campaign.

Bikefanatic wrote:These will be on Kickstarter again right? I like the redesign of them without the barbwired borders. I wish the Rusted Tin version was available but maybe sometime after the campaign.

I'm thinking they'll be on Kickstarter yeah. Maybe Rusted Tin will be a stretch goal?

Review of the Plugged Nickel Playing Cards prototype.

http://www.kardify.com/2014/05/review-p ... aying.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Skulls are baaacccckkkk !!!! Or maybe they never left ..

Now relaunched

I'm going for an early brick. It's just too good a price.

How similar that quote is with....

"There are very few personal problems that cannot be solved through a suitable application of high explosives." — Scott Adams creator of the DIlbert comic strip

I can't not pledge for this project after the creators removed all that barbed wire as some of us requested. Love the look of the Rusted Tin deck especially. Great job VixenTor.

I have never heard that Scott Adams quote before, but I love it.

Thanks for the support, guys. We're going gangbusters so far. I really hope we can nail down some of the stretch goals, because this deck will look a lot cooler with some tuck upgrades.

Firthetic wrote:I can't not pledge for this project after the creators removed all that barbed wire as some of us requested. Love the look of the Rusted Tin deck especially. Great job VixenTor.

I didn't have a problem with the barbed wire borders but the revised makes the deck look "cleaner", the courts are more focused on. For the revised Rusted Tin, I wish the background of the courts were still the same. He hasn't shown the backs of the new Rusted Tin or the numbers yet so we'll see how the whole deck looks.

is the market over saturated right now? It seems that KSTR is full of decks right now and to be honest, I am not backing very many. (3) and the ones I am backing - NONE Of them have hit their goal yet.

Do we think with all of the decks out there, people are starting to hold on to their pocket books? Because back in the day - a deck like this would have funded by now.

Magic_Orthodoxy wrote:is the market over saturated right now? It seems that KSTR is full of decks right now and to be honest, I am not backing very many. (3) and the ones I am backing - NONE Of them have hit their goal yet.

Do we think with all of the decks out there, people are starting to hold on to their pocket books? Because back in the day - a deck like this would have funded by now.

I mostly stick with one of each deck. Many people pledge for more than one deck of a certain kind which is probably why they spend a certain way. For one of many reasons, you can pledge on one KS campaign for a brick which could be $100-$120. For that much money, you can get 9-12 different decks from 8-10 KS campaigns if that makes sense.

Another think is nowadays, KS creator want to bring out two decks or more which has pros and cons. The pros is if somebody don't like one color, they can choose the other one. It's nice to have the same deck done in a different way. Cons is that a project can't be funded without both decks or since they pledged for many of the same deck, they have no money for another project.

If USPCC could be more flexible like other card company as of having prints lower than 2,500 then it could have lower funding goals that can easily be reached.

I see designers/artists going with other printers and forcing uspcc to change.

Cbkimble wrote:I see designers/artists going with other printers and forcing uspcc to change.

I don't see USPCC being "forced" to do anything, I'm sure they could drop the whole custom playing card market completely and still have plenty of business. But I hope there's someone in that company who realizes it might be a good idea to do some changes.

MagikFingerz wrote:

Cbkimble wrote:I see designers/artists going with other printers and forcing uspcc to change.

I don't see USPCC being "forced" to do anything, I'm sure they could drop the whole custom playing card market completely and still have plenty of business. But I hope there's someone in that company who realizes it might be a good idea to do some changes.

You'd be very surprised at the amount of profit they make on the custom card market. They could ditch the idea altogether, but trust me, they'd feel it. Casinos are the biggest segment of their production in terms of earnings, followed by their in-store mass-produced decks (those are printed in larger quantities but at commodity prices), then comes customs, but that doesn't make it a drop in the bucket.

...anywho.....



to help boost the campaign - I will be giving away my prototype: http://youtu.be/rXYSlNMD1qo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It sucks this hasn't been funded yet or won't be compared to other projects out there.

Hey everybody!
If you guys have not knows, there is a deck called the Plugged Nickel Deck on kickstarter right now. The creator of the deck is Matt Drake. The link to the kickstarter is : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/78 ... =discovery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I hope everybody goes to check it out by backing it and spreading the work. There is only 14 days left, so hurry up and get a deck of it.
Also, if not done so, check out magicorthodoxy on YouTube. He does FREE deck giveaways every month and this time, it is the prototype Plugged Nickel deck, How cool!
So, make sure to check out magic orthodoxy and the Plugged Nickel Deck and back it on kickstarter!
Thank you everybody.

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