Help identifying a deck o cards

[sms69x]

I came across an old deck of playing cards, its from the NY Consolidated Card Company, but I can't find any information about it anywhere!!
Please help me! Any information would be good!
Thank you!

[charlie81dbz]

I just spent about a half hour or so on google trying to find info for this and it's definitely hard. The closest thing I could find was a page that has different card images that all have Aces very similar to yours: http://www.a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks04/d03829/d03829.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. None were exactly the same though. That link was from this page, the fourth image down (since 1876 - standar joker): http://www.a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/WWPCM/usa ... idated.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Also, this info on Mr. Hart's company, but you probably already found this much:

Samuel Hart & Co.
based in Philadelphia, PA (1844-1871)
from 1844-1849, named "Samuel Hart"
in 1871, was merged into "The New York Consolidated Card Co.", but name was used until 1930

New York Consolidated Card Co.
based in New York, NY (1871-1930)
from 1894-1930, was a seperate part of USPC
in 1930, was merged into Consolidated Dougherty Co. (since 1962 operated as a division of USPC)


Also, if I'm reading the dating chart from Lee Asher's site correctly, I'd guess this deck is either from 1912 or 1932 (leaning towards 1912 though, since in 1930 NYCC merged into CDC). Still really new to card collecting so I could be way off though. (Dazzleguts seems to be very good at this stuff, maybe she'll see this thread and help out).

Good luck on finding more info!

charlie

[sprouts1115]

Having some fun doing some digging. Samual Hart is the guy that invented the Jack in 1864. He change the Knave which was Kn to J for the Jack. Found an interesting article. I Didn't know they had tokens back then. http://www.novanumismatics.com/numismat ... ts-tokens/

Closest I've come are these in 1905 http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks02/d00792/d00792sA.jpg

But I can tell the spade you have is way after 1905. It's probably a reproduction like in the 1960's

[sprouts1115]

Getting closer. They made a red one.

[sms69x]

Thank you for the replays!! Realy helpful!!

So at the moment I can assume it's a squeezer and it should be circa 1930. I don't think it it as reprint, but it can be...
Will keep on searching, would very much know the year and the number (like squeezers nº XX)!

Thank you again guys! Lets see what else we can find!

[sprouts1115]

I may have an answer, but it is not confirmed it yet. I spammed the people at the: http://www.wopc.co.uk and people at http://www.52plusjoker.org/dnn/. I went ahead and got a membership at 52plusjoker. I heard Jackson is a member and Don at aether is member and speaks highly of them. When I researched them 2 years ago, they seemed like a bunch of old fundy-duddyies. Maybe I'll spice things up and present my "Murdered King" theory and see what they say. I'm still looking. I would like to see the box and tax stamp...

"Hi,

thanks for your enquiry. It appears that your deck was named "Hart's Squeezers". The "Squeezer" Joker is in fact the brand identity. Although the Ace of Spades is the most common version, your two examples are slightly different.

If you'd like to send us some better scans, against a white background, we'd be pleased to add them to the site, with an acknowledgement.

Regards,
Simon



"It doesn't have a special name, it's a standard NYCC deck which has over 25 variations on the Ace of Spades. This is a later version having the word 'THE' at the very top of the design. It dates from around 1910 and has one of the standard very attractive designs of joker. If you go to my website and read the blogs you will find a short article on 'Squeezers'. It's interesting to note that the two decks have slightly different Ace designs, no great significance in that but it just shows a couple of the many slight variations in the designs. With the box it might fetch around £20-40 on ebay as a double deck (with both jokers of course.)

Peter
Collectors Playing Cards
http://www.collectorsplayingcards.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;"

[sms69x]

Thank you sprouts1115!! Great info!!
Thank you so much for the effort!