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ANOTHER Smoke and Mirrors deck?

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So I'm just gonna leave this here (taken directly from their Instagram):
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It's hard to believe anything the big 4 companies say any more! Seems like they are just coming the Purple Artifice now! I bet you'll have to buy a brick to get a free limited gold or something like that!
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Moving onto something I haven't seen already: who's the old dude?
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I'm pretty sure they said "this will be the last one" AT LEAST once :roll:

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The old dude is apparently Juan Tamariz, you might be familiar with some of his work!
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just knowing there will be more Smoke&Mirrors makes me happy. still my favorite decks to this day.
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Eoghann wrote:Moving onto something I haven't seen already: who's the old dude?
"The old dude?" Really? Really???
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I, for one, am happy about this :) So what if they said no more S&M? If I like this one, I'll buy it. If not, I won't :)
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Seb wrote:
Eoghann wrote:Moving onto something I haven't seen already: who's the old dude?
"The old dude?" Really? Really???
Wow, the years have not been good to Gene Wilder.
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vasta41 wrote:
Seb wrote:
Eoghann wrote:Moving onto something I haven't seen already: who's the old dude?
"The old dude?" Really? Really???
Wow, the years have not been good to Gene Wilder.
LOL!
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Seb wrote:I, for one, am happy about this :) So what if they said no more S&M? If I like this one, I'll buy it. If not, I won't :)
Really? You don't have a problem with people who say one thing then does the opposite? Going back on one's word is bad enough as regular people, as salesmen it's much worse.

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Money grab, pure and simple. Just like how bands have their "Final farewell tour" and then two years later they're on stage again. I believe I've seen what was supposed to be the Rolling Stones' final tour at least 4 times now (though really, how much longer can Keith keep pretending to be alive?) and same could be said for the final appearances of Black Sabbath with Ozzy, which I've seen twice now and they'll probably get together again in another year or two.

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MagikFingerz wrote:
Seb wrote:I, for one, am happy about this :) So what if they said no more S&M? If I like this one, I'll buy it. If not, I won't :)
Really? You don't have a problem with people who say one thing then does the opposite? Going back on one's word is bad enough as regular people, as salesmen it's much worse.

I don't like D$D any more than dishonest kickstarter creators, and I would not give my money to them no matter how much I liked the deck.
Well I buy decks that I like, whatever they might say... We still don't even know yet what this new deck is anyway...
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Seb wrote:
MagikFingerz wrote:
Seb wrote:I, for one, am happy about this :) So what if they said no more S&M? If I like this one, I'll buy it. If not, I won't :)
Really? You don't have a problem with people who say one thing then does the opposite? Going back on one's word is bad enough as regular people, as salesmen it's much worse.

I don't like D$D any more than dishonest kickstarter creators, and I would not give my money to them no matter how much I liked the deck.
Well I buy decks that I like, whatever they might say... We still don't even know yet what this new deck is anyway...

We understand that, but we don't think that is the point. They said no more decks were going to be printed in the S&M series and now it appears more are going to be printed. Everyone is a little tired of the lies. See Blue Crown/HOPC, they are the biggest liars out there.

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MagikFingerz wrote:Really? You don't have a problem with people who say one thing then does the opposite? Going back on one's word is bad enough as regular people, as salesmen it's much worse.

I don't like D$D any more than dishonest kickstarter creators, and I would not give my money to them no matter how much I liked the deck.
So let's recap what these identical shysters have done so far:

1) D$D said there will be no more "colored" S$M after their red v.6
2) After they come out with the carbon v.7, they said that would be the final S$M, a "fitting end to an iconic series"
3) D$D promised that v.1-6 would NEVER be reprinted when each version was produced, then they reprinted 10,000 sets of v.1-6 and grossly overpriced them. They couldn't sell out the sets, so they broke up the sets to sell them individually. Then when they still couldn't dump their excess inventory, they sold them to resellers like Touch of Modern, who sold the sets for less than what D$D charged. So much for loyalty to their core customer base, its only about the money for these liars.

If anyone else repeatedly misrepresented the "rareness" of their decks (ie: v.6), stopped innovating and merely pumped out boring recoloration after boring recoloration, and lied about never reprinting their decks, they would be run out of business. I equate D$D with Alien Sl/Ink and Cy (Persian Empire), they are all equally sleazy and untrustworthy.

The Bucks have seriously run out of creativity and ideas, its sad to see them keep going back to the same well and just pump out boring re-colored deck after re-colored deck. I will not buy this purple crap, nor any other color S$M D$D inflicts upon us. Sadly, there will be enough sycophantic fan boys to keep slurping up all the dishonesty to keep D$D in business.

Maybe the Buck$ need the ca$h to pay for acting lessons so they can be a part of a TV series that actually gets funded...
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Think I will wait for the pink one...
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Not cool man. I sent you that picture in confidence. :oops:
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screw this nonsense, i was thinking thank god for the end of the series, guess not. Lets hope its the end of the artifice line as well.

How many times do people want to print the same design ?!
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My guess is that the deck is a lie and really, they are teasing a book or something by Juan Tamariz a.k.a the old guy.
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I think really it's a fake, because these image of Tamariz with his pull-over it's super known.

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Oswin wrote:I think really it's a fake, because these image of Tamariz with his pull-over it's super known.

The proof : Image
wow nice find, kudos. but i still think its D$D milking the last bit out of their cash cow. Photoshopped doesnt mean its not coming.
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MagikFingerz wrote:
D$D .
I am so glad that this caught on
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Oswin wrote:I think really it's a fake, because these image of Tamariz with his pull-over it's super known.

The proof : Image

It doesn't make sense that they would photoshop a pic and put a new color in his hand if it wasn't going to be made. In addition, their quote clearly leads you to believe it is going to be made.

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volantangel wrote:screw this nonsense, i was thinking thank god for the end of the series, guess not. Lets hope its the end of the artifice line as well.

How many times do people want to print the same design ?!
I love the Smoke&Mirror decks and hearing that the v7 was going to be the last one actually made me really sad. even if they're liars that doesn't make their products bad... at least for me. I actually hope that these are actually going to be made.
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Guys, guys- I think you're being too hard on the Bucks. I bet I know what happened- between versions 5 and 6 an extra super-secret, never to be released to public run of only 500 purple S&Ms were made for friends and family only. And I bet you they recently stumbled over a box one day in their warehouse and found 250 of them! Whoda thought!? So it's true- they didn't make any more after v7! Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the ultra-limited purple edition v5.5 S&M deck. For free (if you spend $2,000 in their store... plus $99 S&H).

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vasta41 wrote:Guys, guys- I think you're being too hard on the Bucks. I bet I know what happened- between versions 5 and 6 an extra super-secret, never to be released to public run of only 500 purple S&Ms were made for friends and family only. And I bet you they recently stumbled over a box one day in their warehouse and found 250 of them! Whoda thought!? So it's true- they didn't make any more after v7! Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the ultra-limited purple edition v5.5 S&M deck. For free (if you spend $2,000 in their store... plus $99 S&H).

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
So these are S&Ms v5.5? :?
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Sharpie wrote: So these are S&Ms v5.5? :?
Haha Jesus Christ I hope not! That post was all sarcasm.. but you never know with these companies.
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No offense to the guys here who said they want to buy. that is your prerogative. People are not lashing out on you but on DDTeamMoney. I at one time really liked them. They had some nice decks and great magic. They did a nice job marketing the release of the original SM decks. They had a very nice moisturizer Fomo and I would apply to each other. They created some nice decks out side of the series of SM series. Fantastique was actually one of my favorite DDteammoneydeck. Since then, I never check their sight anymore. Myself and many others tired of the misleading dare I say out right lies of there cards releases. I guess there is a possibility this has more to with Juan Tameriz magic release. He is certainly one of the
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vasta41 wrote:
Sharpie wrote: So these are S&Ms v5.5? :?
Haha Jesus Christ I hope not! That post was all sarcasm.. but you never know with these companies.
I knew that ;) ...and yet :|
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and predict that there's no new S&M coming, but there is a project with Juan Tamariz coming soon. A lot of people are getting pretty upset for nothing...
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