The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:05 am
My feeling is that they are going to miss Shane ...
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My feeling is that they are going to miss Shane ...
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:20 am
As much as I like the movie, this seems like too much of a money grab to me. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the way Shane was let go. The price increase on this deck isn't helping.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:46 am
PHEW I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA HAVE TO PRINT CASH AGAIN.
And we see the fall of albino dragon. That being said, this would probably still fund pretty well, they have much too big a following, but I'd say save up for Holmes and uusi my dear friends.
And we see the fall of albino dragon. That being said, this would probably still fund pretty well, they have much too big a following, but I'd say save up for Holmes and uusi my dear friends.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:54 am
I still like their White Rabbit deck the most. While this is a popular franchise and I enjoyed the movie, it doesn't really grab me. And as Volantangel mentioned, there are some other very nice decks coming down the line on KS.
Wish them luck with the project though.
Wish them luck with the project though.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:14 am
Very poor to say the least!
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:24 am
Agreed - love The Princess Bride - not loving this deck. Thought it would be a tough decision, but it's an easy pass.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:32 am
Was out of the game for a little bit, is there more to the story of Shane's departure from Albino Dragon?Ben Taylor wrote:As much as I like the movie, this seems like too much of a money grab to me. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the way Shane was let go. The price increase on this deck isn't helping.
I know the ks update said he was worth more money than they could pay him, but that didn't seem like the whole story when I read it.
On a side note, does the video say they have three artists to produce different versions of the deck? Or is it multiple artists contributing to a single deck? I can't understand what she is saying.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:32 am
$15 start for a deck?!? WTF, this is getting out of hand.....come on people, dont back this.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:37 am
Hey Billy, PM me and I can at least let you know my side of things. That said yes, I left Albino. I had been working without a contract since March of this year, I was let go immediately after the close of principal art production on Name of the Wind.billysac wrote:Was out of the game for a little bit, is there more to the story of Shane's departure from Albino Dragon?Ben Taylor wrote:As much as I like the movie, this seems like too much of a money grab to me. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the way Shane was let go. The price increase on this deck isn't helping.
I know the ks update said he was worth more money than they could pay him, but that didn't seem like the whole story when I read it.
On a side note, does the video say they have three artists to produce different versions of the deck? Or is it multiple artists contributing to a single deck? I can't understand what she is saying.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:39 am
I think many, including me would like to know the full story of what happened. Not sure where something like this should belong on the forum tho. Hope everythings been well for you Shane.Shane_Tyree wrote:Hey Billy, PM me and I can at least let you know my side of things. That said yes, I left Albino. I had been working without a contract since March of this year, I was let go immediately after the close of principal art production on Name of the Wind.billysac wrote:Was out of the game for a little bit, is there more to the story of Shane's departure from Albino Dragon?Ben Taylor wrote:As much as I like the movie, this seems like too much of a money grab to me. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the way Shane was let go. The price increase on this deck isn't helping.
I know the ks update said he was worth more money than they could pay him, but that didn't seem like the whole story when I read it.
On a side note, does the video say they have three artists to produce different versions of the deck? Or is it multiple artists contributing to a single deck? I can't understand what she is saying.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:45 am
It's been a hell of a month so far I will tell you that much. I had expected a lot of things seeing AD roll on without me. Didn't really see this project coming though.volantangel wrote:I think many, including me would like to know the full story of what happened. Not sure where something like this should belong on the forum tho. Hope everythings been well for you Shane.Shane_Tyree wrote:Hey Billy, PM me and I can at least let you know my side of things. That said yes, I left Albino. I had been working without a contract since March of this year, I was let go immediately after the close of principal art production on Name of the Wind.billysac wrote:Was out of the game for a little bit, is there more to the story of Shane's departure from Albino Dragon?Ben Taylor wrote:As much as I like the movie, this seems like too much of a money grab to me. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the way Shane was let go. The price increase on this deck isn't helping.
I know the ks update said he was worth more money than they could pay him, but that didn't seem like the whole story when I read it.
On a side note, does the video say they have three artists to produce different versions of the deck? Or is it multiple artists contributing to a single deck? I can't understand what she is saying.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:56 am
Agreed. Seems like AD will be missing Shane in more than one way.hikeeba wrote:Agreed - love The Princess Bride - not loving this deck. Thought it would be a tough decision, but it's an easy pass.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:59 am
No mention of having the rights to this. I presume they do as I'm guessing that USPCC will have heard of the film 
and wouldn't green light this without those "i"s dotted and "t"s crossed.
Anyway, not compelling and as much as I like the film, this is an easy pass here, too.
and wouldn't green light this without those "i"s dotted and "t"s crossed.Anyway, not compelling and as much as I like the film, this is an easy pass here, too.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:19 pm
Hmmm...I like the back, but everything else not so much. And the pricing makes it a very easy pass. :\
As for the licensing, they mention that is a factor for the price increase in their FAQ , but don't say they actually have it yet. That alone would make me very cautious in backing the project.
charlie
As for the licensing, they mention that is a factor for the price increase in their FAQ , but don't say they actually have it yet. That alone would make me very cautious in backing the project.
charlie
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:42 pm
I'm way more selective than I used to be, and this one doesn't even come close to making the cut with what they're showing so far.
Is the next Uusi deck out yet?
Is the next Uusi deck out yet?
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:03 pm
Glad to know I'm not alone in my thoughts on this deck. I'd rather back those kids' day of the dead deck where they were photoshopping makeup on celebrity faces than this. And I love both the book & movie. In addition to the rights to The Princess Bride work itself, if they were to use the likeness of the characters from the movie, would they have to get rights from the actors as well or the estate of Andre the Giant? Or is that covered by the rights for the movie?
In any case, the previews make it look like your typical dime store movie based deck. Shane, you really were the talent over there, I hope you can find a place that appreciates your work.
And I'm not even going to touch the $14 / deck thing. Not with a 10' pole.
In any case, the previews make it look like your typical dime store movie based deck. Shane, you really were the talent over there, I hope you can find a place that appreciates your work.
And I'm not even going to touch the $14 / deck thing. Not with a 10' pole.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:54 pm
Um guys... it's right there in the project description. 
Albino Dragon wrote:You may have seen our work on The Name of the Wind, Synthesis, The White Rabbit or The Call of Cthulhu decks that we've done over the past year. Fortunately, some folks in high places have seen them as well and we were able to secure licensing for one of our favorite movies ever: The Princess Bride.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:58 pm
i loved the Cthulhu Kickstarter and the White Rabbit, i even backed the Name of the Wind deck but had to pass on the Synthesis deck...just because of the high pricing $15 is hard cash guys - easy pass for me and since Shane is no longer part of the party - much easier pass
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:10 pm
I share the general consensus here, and I'm amazed they've got $12k in pledges already. When (or if) people buy decks purely based on brands (producer) they should be ashamed of themselves, and I think it's fairly obvious that this deck would not have sold much (if at all) had it not been for their previous successes. Supporting your favorite artists and completing collections is one thing, but bad decks shouldn't sell, period.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:19 pm
The video was good. Very informative; It was only a minute long. He could have made it longer. Kickstarter says 3 min max. He didn't say it was being made by the USPCC, but since he mentions Magic Finish I can only subsume so. Now would have been perfect opportunity to show a video of one of his up and coming new artist to draw the KoH. Erik and Shane were the first to draw a card. When I saw Shane draw a card I thought OMG I'm going to do that. Since then I have seen many copycats...
His back of the card seems a bit to busy and doesn't flow. What is that cyan blue? In the box, what is up with the different swords and the mask and AD symbol. The only text on the box is the name of the deck. This is were you can put all kinds of text and people can't bitch. The box for me doesn't work it's boring..
His KoH has a black "K" rank. I think it needs to be red plus his suit has way to much gold in it. His corner badge indexes are to common. It looks to much like a Zazzle deck. I think in general it going to be hard to distinguish the cards at a distance. I like the suit on the top right side. Anything that goes against the norm is good. I like the sword below the indexes. Makes me wonder what the others are going to be. Hmmm, Spade = Sword, Club = Staff, Diamonds = Coins, Hearts =Cups. I don't really like the text on the KoH "As you Wish" it makes it a "1-way back" plus with the ribbon makes it to traditional. Check out the links below. This guy Vladislav Erko was a master at using things to make the transition flow from one side to another.
All in all, just know you will get your decks. Erik has the history and I think he is becoming the master of adding rewards during the Kickstarter. Hell, he doesn't even have a stretch goal yet. He knows how to run a successful Kickstarter, but I think this one is hurried and you might have some delays. I personally think it's important to have all the artwork done. What do you have here?
links for Vladislav Erko:
http://www.21king.ru/ru/museum/?deck=g03557&country=ru
http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks08/d06295/d06295.htm
His back of the card seems a bit to busy and doesn't flow. What is that cyan blue? In the box, what is up with the different swords and the mask and AD symbol. The only text on the box is the name of the deck. This is were you can put all kinds of text and people can't bitch. The box for me doesn't work it's boring..
His KoH has a black "K" rank. I think it needs to be red plus his suit has way to much gold in it. His corner badge indexes are to common. It looks to much like a Zazzle deck. I think in general it going to be hard to distinguish the cards at a distance. I like the suit on the top right side. Anything that goes against the norm is good. I like the sword below the indexes. Makes me wonder what the others are going to be. Hmmm, Spade = Sword, Club = Staff, Diamonds = Coins, Hearts =Cups. I don't really like the text on the KoH "As you Wish" it makes it a "1-way back" plus with the ribbon makes it to traditional. Check out the links below. This guy Vladislav Erko was a master at using things to make the transition flow from one side to another.
All in all, just know you will get your decks. Erik has the history and I think he is becoming the master of adding rewards during the Kickstarter. Hell, he doesn't even have a stretch goal yet. He knows how to run a successful Kickstarter, but I think this one is hurried and you might have some delays. I personally think it's important to have all the artwork done. What do you have here?
links for Vladislav Erko:
http://www.21king.ru/ru/museum/?deck=g03557&country=ru
http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks08/d06295/d06295.htm
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:02 pm
Sharpie wrote:Um guys... it's right there in the project description.Albino Dragon wrote:You may have seen our work on The Name of the Wind, Synthesis, The White Rabbit or The Call of Cthulhu decks that we've done over the past year. Fortunately, some folks in high places have seen them as well and we were able to secure licensing for one of our favorite movies ever: The Princess Bride.
Wait, you expect us to actually READ the WHOLE description before we start crapping all over the latest persona non grata?
As for my own opinion on this deck. I'm not blow away, but i'd like to see more than one court and one back before i make my final decision.
That seems to be how AD operates though.... a very slooooooooooooow reveal.
At least I don't have to worry about missing out on any "early bird" specials...
I'm curious how much the licensing actually costs, and if it's a lump sum or a per deck charge... anyone know?
if it's a lump sum, he could have kept the per deck cost more reasonable and just set a higher project goal. seems pretty clear he's going to blow away his goal (already at 150% now).
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:22 pm
chach wrote:Glad to know I'm not alone in my thoughts on this deck. I'd rather back those kids' day of the dead deck where they were photoshopping makeup on celebrity faces than this. And I love both the book & movie. In addition to the rights to The Princess Bride work itself, if they were to use the likeness of the characters from the movie, would they have to get rights from the actors as well or the estate of Andre the Giant? Or is that covered by the rights for the movie?
In any case, the previews make it look like your typical dime store movie based deck. Shane, you really were the talent over there, I hope you can find a place that appreciates your work.
And I'm not even going to touch the $14 / deck thing. Not with a 10' pole.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:11 am
Is just plonking something over the join masterful?This guy Taras Bulba was a master at using things to make the transition flow from one side to another.
My opinion of the deck (well, card) is pretty much the same as the consensus - underwhelmed and unconvinced.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:35 am
Plonking?!?montecarlojoe wrote:Is just plonking something over the join masterful?This guy Taras Bulba was a master at using things to make the transition flow from one side to another.
My opinion of the deck (well, card) is pretty much the same as the consensus - underwhelmed and unconvinced.
The Korchma restaurant's Taras Bulba is a beautiful deck. Each division was designed by Vladislav Erko to suit that particular card and it's story. IMHO an elegant solution that was well executed - not plonked.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:28 am
Not convinced personally - the art is fabulous, but the centre transition just seems like an afterthought. Yes, the object used may be clever, thematic and well painted, but I don't think the way they are used is particularly imaginative.
But that's just MHO.
But that's just MHO.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:34 am
The tuck box is honestly one of the worst ive seen in a long time.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:59 am
Completely underwhelming. Easy pass for me.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:07 pm
Yeah, it's a very subjective issue.montecarlojoe wrote:Not convinced personally - the art is fabulous, but the centre transition just seems like an afterthought. Yes, the object used may be clever, thematic and well painted, but I don't think the way they are used is particularly imaginative.
But that's just MHO.
More universal perhaps is the opinion of The Princess Bride Dreck.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:49 pm
Actually, what seems to be more universal is how incredibly emo the posters in this thread have been...dazzleguts wrote:Yeah, it's a very subjective issue.
More universal perhaps is the opinion of The Princess Bride Dreck.
Re: The Princess Bride Playing Cards by Albino Dragon on KS
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:59 pm
Haha! That's true.dazzleguts wrote:More universal perhaps is the opinion of The Princess Bride Dreck.