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UnitedCardists.com and Windows "Themes"

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:36 pm
by RSLancastr
I posted the following on another forum I frequent, but it is about this forum, so I am reposting it here:

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I have, in recent days, been experimenting a bit with the "Themes" which come with Windows 7.

I did so because using the default theme, I frequently had difficulty seeing certain things on various web pages, particularly the "text input" boxes/prompts such as those used on the Google Advanced Search page, which are evidently a very light blue (outline) against a white, or off-white background.

I would frequently get to a web page which would say something like "Enter your Name and Password", with prompts for "Name" and "Password", but, since I could not make out the outline of the "input boxes", I could not tell if the boxes were to the right of, left of, above or below the prompts. Sometimes, tapping the Tab key would give me a visible text-input cursor, but not always. I would then have to drag the mouse cursor all around, watching for it to turn from an arrow into the "bone" text input cursor.

...which brings up another, related issue: Since the damned mouse cursor was, again, a light blue or grey outline with a white or off-white background, I often could not see it! either, and would just roll the mouse around at random, hoping I would mouse-over an element which would react to it, telling me where the mouse cursor was.

This was all VERY frustrating, and I thought that perhaps Windows Themes could help, as I recalled that some of the themes were specifically designed to aid people having trouble with the default, low-contrast color scheme.

I tried the various "High contrast" themes, and they all helped tremendously with both of the issues described above (I can easily see input boxes and the mouse cursor), but - of course! - cause other problems:

1. On some sites/pages, certain elements, evidently not designed with various themes in mind, just vanish with the High-contrast themes I've tried.

For example: I spend a fair amount of time on the forum of unitedcardists.com.

Here is a screen cap of their main page, with the default Windows 7 theme in place:

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Here it is again, with one of the Black High-contrast themes:

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See how the "CARDISTS" portion of the banner just vanishes? So do other elements of other pages there, such as "Enter Reply" buttons and the like.

Another example:

Here is the page viewing one of their subforums, using the default Theme:

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...and here it is again, using the High-Contrast Theme:

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Note that not only is half of the banner graphic missing, but so are the buttons (such as "New Topic") halfway down the left side of the page.

I want to point this out to the mods/admin of the site, but am hoping to also give them a link to a page somewhere with tech advice on creating graphics which will workregardless of what Windows Theme a site visitor is using.

Thoughts?

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I have yet to get any replies to the above on the other forum, so am posting it here on UC.

The "High-contrast" Windows Themes are used by many people with vision problems, so it would be great if UC was compatible with those themes. I don't know what all that would entail, but I am looking into it.

Re: UnitedCardists.com and Windows "Themes"

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:39 am
by montecarlojoe
Tricky one this - the high contrast themes aren't like 'normal' themes in the way they interpret luminosity of general graphics.

Case in point being the UC logo - the green is interpretedas being dark and therefore displayed in black - hiding "cardists" as it's black on black. (Incidentally if you choose the white high contrast theme you get the opposite problem - the "United is hidden as it's whiteo n white).

One solution is on the forum admin's end. If the software Mike uses allows for multiple skins that users can pick from then he may be able to design / offer a high contrast accessibility skin. Though it's not a sure thing that this particular software allows for that or makes it simple to implement if it does. There are some accessibility functions (font size), so there may be others.

The other thing you can try is to alter the windows default colours by hand - Change your theme back to Windows 7 Basic, then go to Control Panel > All Control Panel Items > Personalization > Window Color and Appearance then click Advanced Appearance Settings.

Here you can set all the window and font colours to emulate a high contrast theme - but it wont affect web graphics as the settings will only affect windows controls.

Re: UnitedCardists.com and Windows "Themes"

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:19 pm
by RSLancastr
montecarlojoe wrote:The other thing you can try is to alter the windows default colours by hand - Change your theme back to Windows 7 Basic, then go to Control Panel > All Control Panel Items > Personalization > Window Color and Appearance then click Advanced Appearance Settings.

Here you can set all the window and font colours to emulate a high contrast theme - but it wont affect web graphics as the settings will only affect windows controls.
Thanks, Joe, but:

I see no "All Control Panel Items" on the Control Panel.

I got to Personalization another way, and eventually got to Advanced Appearance Settings but, as you say, these are Windows settings. I am only looking to modify colors within my web browser (IE), not ALL Windows programs.

I have tried THAT approach as well (via IE's "Internet Options", but that did not work for me either. :(

Re: UnitedCardists.com and Windows "Themes"

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:58 pm
by montecarlojoe
You could try a browser extension. e.g.

High Contrast for chrome,
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... e-ntp-icon

Webvisum for Fire fox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... ubmissions

(I haven't tried them, but they could be worth a go