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The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 9:51 pm
by hsbc
Instagram wrote:Another experiment with shaped cards is the design process: The Cyclopeans. The name was inspired by the index layout, where just one central index gives the idea of a cyclope
The court cards depict these cyclopes with blank regular eyes and one big eye on the forehead.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 12:08 am
by Honeybee
My 17th Kingdom Experimental are just about my No.1 deck for so many reasons but I am not feeling these (yet?)
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 1:58 am
by kevork
I'm not a fan of the card shape, but I'm definitely a fan of the court card artwork.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 2:24 am
by CCwonder
kevork wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 1:58 am
I'm not a fan of the card shape, but I'm definitely a fan of the court card artwork.
The art on the cards does show potential but I also have little interest in the shape. 17th Kingdom is a novelty but this is not. I like playing cards and these look like coasters.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 6:38 am
by Harvonsgard
Seems like I’m the only one in here for now who’s feeling this shape more than 17th Kingdom. The only thing that really spoke to me from 17th Kingdom was the back design. If I wouldn’t have gotten some as a patreon, I would not own any 17th Kingdom decks. This project however peaks my interest. From a cardistry perspective this shape is very interesting as well.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 6:47 am
by Swiski66
I'm all for novelty shaped decks! Plus it's a Stockholm 17 product. Win-win for me!!
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 10:15 am
by Adamthinks
I'm digging this one also. I like the novelty of different shaped decks and I'm a fan of what he's shown for the art here so far as well.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 11:10 am
by Evilgamer
I love the art as always but wondering how to even store these, hes shown a prototype of the tuck where all 4 corners are exposed...thats not going to be good for longevity
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 11:18 am
by Adamthinks
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 11:10 am
I love the art as always but wondering how to even store these, hes shown a prototype of the tuck where all 4 corners are exposed...thats not going to be good for longevity
A stand of some sort? I have a cell phone stand that I use that would probably work well for it and was pretty cheap. Something like that or just flat on it's back if in a drawer.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 12:45 pm
by brownsl
I love his art work but not a fan of these nontraditional decks.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 11:24 pm
by Honeybee
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 11:10 am
I love the art as always but wondering how to even store these, hes shown a prototype of the tuck where all 4 corners are exposed...thats not going to be good for longevity
I am predicting a special carat case again
I got the special ones for The 17th Kingom but they also fitted in a regular carat sleeve - maybe these will too
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 3:52 am
by shermjack
Honeybee wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 11:24 pm
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 11:10 am
I love the art as always but wondering how to even store these, hes shown a prototype of the tuck where all 4 corners are exposed...thats not going to be good for longevity
I am predicting a special carat case again
I got the special ones for The 17th Kingom but they also fitted in a regular carat sleeve - maybe these will too
I am thinking of how to make this case. A diamond shape would be simplest, but then how do you stand it up. Also, from my reading of Lorenzo’s last Patreon post, it seems that if you rotate these cards 30some degrees, they will fit inside the borders of a standard poker card, so then these should also fit in a standard Carat Case
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 6:08 am
by zlexander
It looks a square deck with image drawn through diagonal to me for some reason . I mean if you rotate I believe a square shape will come ?
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 7:28 am
by kevork
zlexander wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 6:08 am
It looks a square deck with image drawn through diagonal to me for some reason . I mean if you rotate I believe a square shape will come ?
It's a rhombus, so the angles aren't 90° but it's sized in a way where it can fit in a standard tuck.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 11:47 am
by balrog326
I am thinking of how to make this case. A diamond shape would be simplest, but then how do you stand it up. Also, from my reading of Lorenzo’s last Patreon post, it seems that if you rotate these cards 30some degrees, they will fit inside the borders of a standard poker card, so then these should also fit in a standard Carat Case
Maybe you could just create an insert for the standard carat similar to the mini carat w/micro insert? Speaking of...is there anywhere to get more of those micro inserts? I need one more.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 2:08 pm
by wingedpotato
I love non-traditional shaped cards for the most part, and these look awesome. I'm sure they will just get better and better the more L tinkers.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 3:50 pm
by rousselle
I enjoy the occasional non-traditional shaped decks, and Uusi's round deck and the 17th Kingdom are among the best of the non-traditional shaped decks I've ever seen. (I also love mini-decks and giant decks, but I admit I'm kind of a weirdo.)
That said, two things leap out at me regarding this project. The first is: the art isn't singing to me. The second is: the last time the art of a Lorenzo project didn't really sing to me while it was in development, holy crap did I love the finished product once it was in my hands. I mean... Lorenzo's work is simply a feast for the eyes every. damn. time.
I think one of the profound strengths of the decks Lorenzo makes (and certain others make) is the effort he puts into the theme/story behind the art. This is true of so many artists I admire, be they visual or audio or written: *most* of the best works of art have a sense of story and depth behind them that adds a richness to the art even when it's not expressed in an obvious way. Card designers who approach their craft with a sense of story or theme include not only Lorenzo, but also Gio, Jackson, Randy, RJ, TGW, Lotrek, Rick Davidson, Uusi, Emmanuel Jose, and so many others, which is no doubt a large part of why I love their stuff.
Design? Yes. Cleverness? Sure. Technical innovation? Naturally. But the depth that comes from the artist having a vision? HELL, YEAH.
So, all by way of saying, yeah, these aren't grabbing me... yet. But, Imma pick them up because I've been so very pleasantly surprised before by Lorenzo's work.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 6:29 pm
by shermjack
balrog326 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 11:47 am
I am thinking of how to make this case. A diamond shape would be simplest, but then how do you stand it up. Also, from my reading of Lorenzo’s last Patreon post, it seems that if you rotate these cards 30some degrees, they will fit inside the borders of a standard poker card, so then these should also fit in a standard Carat Case
Maybe you could just create an insert for the standard carat similar to the mini carat w/micro insert? Speaking of...is there anywhere to get more of those micro inserts? I need one more.
I believe that the shape and size allows the deck to fit inside a standard X1, but at an angle and with just enough room (one of the indexed corners would be in the top right corner of the case while the other indexed corner would be in the bottom left corner, if that makes sense)
A standard carat X1s interior dimensions are 94 x 69mm, whereas the new Cyclopeans will be 75.4x105.3mm with 75.4mm being the dimension from one corner to the opposite corner and the 105.3mm being the dimension from one of the indexed corners to the other.
@balrog326, hit me up in August and I might be able to help you with a micro insert
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:13 am
by Honeybee
I think an elongated hexagon (the reverse of 17th Kingodom) would be a superior shape
and result in a deck/tuck/carat case that could stand up
Where to place the Indices might be problematic
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:31 am
by Evilgamer
Not sure it’s made any of the pics here but he has a working stand already. Not sure what the final solution will be.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 4:52 am
by Honeybee
BUT should you need one - I prefer my decks to stand on their own
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 5:01 am
by Evilgamer
Honeybee wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 4:52 am
BUT should you need one - I prefer my decks to stand on their own
You make all the custom case dealers sad!
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:30 am
by KGthePrince
I am really digging what I've seen so far. I appreciate the non-traditional shape and tuck on this one one more so than 17th Kingdom (also a really cool deck). It might be that I just like the artwork on this one more. Either way, excited to see where this one goes
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:41 am
by laitostarr777
shermjack wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 3:52 am
Honeybee wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 11:24 pm
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 11:10 am
I love the art as always but wondering how to even store these, hes shown a prototype of the tuck where all 4 corners are exposed...thats not going to be good for longevity
I am predicting a special carat case again
I got the special ones for The 17th Kingom but they also fitted in a regular carat sleeve - maybe these will too
I am thinking of how to make this case. A diamond shape would be simplest, but then how do you stand it up. Also, from my reading of Lorenzo’s last Patreon post, it seems that if you rotate these cards 30some degrees, they will fit inside the borders of a standard poker card, so then these should also fit in a standard Carat Case
I could imagine there's a standee to hold the Diamond shaped case!
Card Designer like Stockholm17 and UUSI created odd-shaped decks that won't look like those cheap souvenir decks (no offense for those who collect souvenir decks)
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:19 pm
by Harvonsgard
Honeybee wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 4:52 am
I prefer my decks to stand on their own
I prefer mine laying flat… on a table… used… tattered and torn…
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:59 pm
by wingedpotato
Honeybee wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:13 am
I think an elongated hexagon (the reverse of 17th Kingodom) would be a superior shape
and result in a deck/tuck/carat case that could stand up
Where to place the Indices might be problematic
I think Star Wars has a monopoly on that with the Sabacc and Sabacc-shaped playing cards.
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:05 pm
by Honeybee
Thank you for that wingedpotato
I have never been a Star Wars follower so your info was an interesting lead
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:09 pm
by wingedpotato
Yeah, and I was too lazy to find a photo, so glad you did. All that said, I'd LOVE to see what Lorenzo could do with that shape also!
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:17 pm
by Honeybee
A Lorenzo sabacc shaped deck would look 100% better - his 17th Kingdom are SO good and can you imagine him doing a follow up which fitted together with the 17th Kingdom, like a jigsaw
Re: The Cyclopeans by Stockholm17
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:39 pm
by Adamthinks
Honeybee wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:05 pm
Thank you for that wingedpotato
I have never been a Star Wars follower so your info was an interesting lead
I have that deck, it's pretty fun.
The court cards depict these cyclopes with blank regular eyes and one big eye on the forehead.