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[KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:18 am
by hsbc
Jackson's January 2021 Shorts deck, here's the standard edition (pics stolen from IG), tuck by Clove St :uggrin: :uggrin:

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Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:03 am
by Harvonsgard
Looks very, very sweet. Clove St. Press always kills it.
Thank godness it's printed in China; I couldn't justify not picking up this deck otherwise 😃.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:33 am
by Strag
Any idea of the courts? I already have the original Sherlock decks so not sure why I'd want these.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:01 am
by wingedpotato
I'd be very surprised if it isn't the same court set of the original SH. Usually JR is showing off court creation when he's doing new stuff (Oz, etc.).

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:52 pm
by Bradius
Any idea of the courts? I already have the original Sherlock decks so not sure why I'd want these.
At $15 for a standard deck, I would think getting one would be a no-brainer either way. That said, you might want to wait until you have a big enough order to get free shipping and such. While his standard decks at $15 are a bit more than a Theory 11 standard at $10, I think you get more than enough to justify the extra $5.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:59 pm
by andreac75
I have to wait one year since I'm in Europe with delayed shipping.... So sorry!!!!

BTW I've hound of baskerville edition at home and they're great.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:21 pm
by Strag
Bradius wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:52 pm At $15 for a standard deck, I would think getting one would be a no-brainer either way. That said, you might want to wait until you have a big enough order to get free shipping and such. While his standard decks at $15 are a bit more than a Theory 11 standard at $10, I think you get more than enough to justify the extra $5.
Being in the UK it's probably close to $25 shipped to me per deck even with delayed shipping. Not a no brainer when I can get blinged and/or new designs for that price.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:33 pm
by Meta Collector
I believe this version is supposed to be foiled so it’ll be shiny even if it recycles the same art. I imagine it’ll be like how last year’s Arthurian was basically the same as the original but with foil.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:37 pm
by PrincessTrouble
The LTD version.
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Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:41 pm
by JacksonRobinson
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Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:39 pm
by Bradius
Yeah, those are awesome Jackson! Thanks for sharing.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:57 pm
by EvilDuncan
Damn, I was not prepared for those courts!

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:16 pm
by Entaro
Oh man those are so awesome! Even the number cards look great lol

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:16 am
by phantom1412
Anyone know if these will be available outside of subscription?

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:04 am
by wingedpotato
phantom1412 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:16 am Anyone know if these will be available outside of subscription?
If it follows the pattern of the 2020 decks: 1) The month after release, there will be a chance for members to buy more 2) Remainders will open to the public a few days later 3) There have always been standard decks available, I'm not sure how long the limited versions last. Of course, if JR prints less this time, etc., who knows? I'm regretting not keep my subscription a little longer. These are a great re-working of the original art and I'm delightfully surprised.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:20 am
by Harvonsgard
Sweet, sweet, sweet. Fine work.
I really like those upgraded versions.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:24 am
by phantom1412
wingedpotato wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:04 am
phantom1412 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:16 am Anyone know if these will be available outside of subscription?
If it follows the pattern of the 2020 decks: 1) The month after release, there will be a chance for members to buy more 2) Remainders will open to the public a few days later 3) There have always been standard decks available, I'm not sure how long the limited versions last. Of course, if JR prints less this time, etc., who knows? I'm regretting not keep my subscription a little longer. These are a great re-working of the original art and I'm delightfully surprised.
Usually the subscription is for standard only, right? Then the limited deck will be available to members first? Then public?

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:42 am
by wingedpotato
phantom1412 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:24 am
wingedpotato wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:04 am
phantom1412 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:16 am Anyone know if these will be available outside of subscription?
If it follows the pattern of the 2020 decks: 1) The month after release, there will be a chance for members to buy more 2) Remainders will open to the public a few days later 3) There have always been standard decks available, I'm not sure how long the limited versions last. Of course, if JR prints less this time, etc., who knows? I'm regretting not keep my subscription a little longer. These are a great re-working of the original art and I'm delightfully surprised.
Usually the subscription is for standard only, right? Then the limited deck will be available to members first? Then public?
There are subscriptions for limited decks also, but I think they are all taken. Someone else would know better than I.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:02 am
by Bradius
I don't know if the limited subscriptions are sold out, but it looks like it. There does not appear to be a way right now to select one of the limited or gilded subscriptions. That said, there usually are some left over. Depending on what they want to do, they could either put any extras up for sale to current subscribers or hold them for some kind of special sale or auction. If they do offer any extra limited decks and the subscribers don't pick them up in like a month, then it goes to the general public to pick any up. I wouldn't get your hopes up for any extras to be released. If you really want a limited, I would suggest reaching out to Dentyne. He has typically had a set or two for sale at reasonable prices.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:42 pm
by laitostarr777
The year of story themed decks for KWP has started

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:58 pm
by andreac75
laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:42 pm The year of story themed decks for KWP has started
Robin Hood and Beowolf are mine preferred KWP desk of 2020 so I can't wait for new story themed decks!

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:19 pm
by laitostarr777
andreac75 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:58 pm
laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:42 pm The year of story themed decks for KWP has started
Robin Hood and Beowolf are mine preferred KWP desk of 2020 so I can't wait for new story themed decks!
I really need to know the name of the characters for the courts in Robin Hood and Beowulf. For Robin Hood, think I can identify most of them, but not for the Beowulf

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:06 pm
by hsbc
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Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:08 pm
by vasta41
Yeah, I got this today, too. My first and last sub deck! I will just wait until "Christmas Before Christmas" at the end of this year to pick up the rest with free shipping.
It's too bad they couldn't keep the delayed shipping program. I wonder how many others will opt out?

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:52 pm
by Harvonsgard
Nice pictures, thanks for sharing.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:35 am
by JacksonRobinson
Hey peeps! Let me know what you think about the thickness and handling of the sherlocks we tried a new thinner Cardistry stock for these, to try and make progress forward and get an overall thinner more better handling deck.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:53 pm
by vasta41
JacksonRobinson wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:35 am Hey peeps! Let me know what you think about the thickness and handling of the sherlocks we tried a new thinner Cardistry stock for these, to try and make progress forward and get an overall thinner more better handling deck.
Sorry, chief- that's not my department. But I can tell you the tuck is really nice! :lol:

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:05 pm
by Bradius
It is slightly thinner than say Robin Hood, and just a hair thicker than my Sovereign deck that was printed at USPCC. Handling is just not there compared with the Sovereign deck TBH. It doesn't fan as well. It is stiffer and has less spring. It just doesn't have it for handling yet. That said, I like this deck for other reasons. However, if it was a deck for cardistry? Hard pass. Luckily for you, I am no cardist. :lol:

For some reason the color printing over the foil doesn't impress me as much as what I have seen from Montenzi using Cartamundi. I mean with both I can see the printing dots, but it seems more obvious to me on this deck compared to say the UC #7 deck. It also seems darker or duller. One problem I see is say in "221B" on the backs. There is shading on the numbers that makes it look more like a printing error. It definitely makes the image blurry to me. It just doesn't have the desired effect IMHO. That all said, I do like the deck. I just think you need to figure out what works best with this type of printing as it is going to be different on your computer than in final production. I get the challenges in using new processes.

Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:13 am
by Romeril
JacksonRobinson wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:35 am Hey peeps! Let me know what you think about the thickness and handling of the sherlocks we tried a new thinner Cardistry stock for these, to try and make progress forward and get an overall thinner more better handling deck.
Jackson!! This is exactly what I was talking about in the chat on Deckin Around on Thursday, but you laughed at me and said it was the same stock! :lol:

It is noticeably thinner, feels better in the hand, handles better and I can also fit the deck in a sleeve. The other recent KWP EPCC decks don’t even come close to getting in a sleeve.

Please switch to this stock from EPCC :D

Here’s a few pics comparing it to Robin Hood:
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Re: [KWP Shorts Jan. 2021] Sherlock Holmes

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:29 am
by Harvonsgard
Awesome to see steps going into the right direction. Thanks for sharing Matt.