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Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:41 pm
by MagikFingerz
Just to state the occurrence that got me to post this in the first place: I was going to place an order at Ellusionist for the Artifice Tundra, and at the same time pick up a few of the Rounders and Blue LTD that I had not yet purchased. The Blue LDT was not in stock when I went to do this, so I thought I'd wait until they were. Now they are, and whadda ya know, the Rounders are now out of stock.

So now when I think back, I'm pretty sure this has happened before, though I can't recall any details like when or which company. There is of course the possibility that every time this has happened it was just a coincidence. But I really wouldn't put it past some of these companies with somewhat inflated shipping prices, because they would make more money doing it. Has anyone else had experiences like this?

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:49 am
by cosmicsecret
Not a bad theory!
I always wish that companies would release 2 or 3 decks at the same time to save up on shipping costs.
I mean if they do not make a cut on the shipping - they could care less but most retailers are only online stores. so it would make sense that they overcharge your for shipping and handling.

i stopped buying from ellusionist due the high shipping fees (they do overcharge you)
even before the USPS had raised their prices for international postage.
thats why i wait a bit and do a bigger order from bmpokerworld.
fast shipping,get everything i want,do not need to pay multiple times for shipping and his prices are fair and i had never to pay any customs taxes on my order from bmpokerworld ;)

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:45 am
by Paul Middleton
MagikFingerz wrote:Just to state the occurrence that got me to post this in the first place: I was going to place an order at Ellusionist for the Artifice Tundra, and at the same time pick up a few of the Rounders and Blue LTD that I had not yet purchased. The Blue LDT was not in stock when I went to do this, so I thought I'd wait until they were. Now they are, and whadda ya know, the Rounders are now out of stock.

So now when I think back, I'm pretty sure this has happened before, though I can't recall any details like when or which company. There is of course the possibility that every time this has happened it was just a coincidence. But I really wouldn't put it past some of these companies with somewhat inflated shipping prices, because they would make more money doing it. Has anyone else had experiences like this?
Whilst I see your point, maybe it's just that the decks are printed in the order they arranged with USPCC? Rounders have been out of stock for some time.

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:40 pm
by MagikFingerz
JPMiddleton wrote:Whilst I see your point, maybe it's just that the decks are printed in the order they arranged with USPCC? Rounders have been out of stock for some time.
That's very possible, but it could also just be part of the explanation. The company could mark one deck as sold out when they get a new batch of another in, even if they still have some. And the Rounders was in stock when I went to make an order the first time, which was less than 2 weeks ago.

But there is of course no way of proving that anyone is doing this, so it's all just speculation and conspiracy theories :roll:

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:03 pm
by DukeBoy
MagikFingerz wrote: But there is of course no way of proving that anyone is doing this, so it's all just speculation and conspiracy theories :roll:
You could give up the booze and move to Kentucky and take on a job at the USPCC factory, after a few years you could parley that into an internship at the card companies and then work your way out of the mailroom and onto the cleaning crew. After another couple of years you become head of the cleaning crew and divide up the offices so that you get to clean the stock room. Then you can start to track what is in the warehouse and what the website shows on hand for sale. :D

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:40 pm
by MagikFingerz
DukeBoy wrote:
MagikFingerz wrote: But there is of course no way of proving that anyone is doing this, so it's all just speculation and conspiracy theories :roll:
You could give up the booze and move to Kentucky and take on a job at the USPCC factory, after a few years you could parley that into an internship at the card companies and then work your way out of the mailroom and onto the cleaning crew. After another couple of years you become head of the cleaning crew and divide up the offices so that you get to clean the stock room. Then you can start to track what is in the warehouse and what the website shows on hand for sale. :D
You lost me at "give up the booze" :roll:

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:48 pm
by DukeBoy
[quote="MagikFingerz]
You lost me at "give up the booze" :roll:[/quote]
:lol:

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:36 pm
by RandyButterfield
Hey Magik, Kentucky's not a great place to move to if you plan on giving up booze!! It's a great place to get a good Bourbon.

It's the home of Wild Turkey, Makers Mark, Jim Beam and many other small distilleries. They even named the area the Bourbon Trail (http://kybourbontrail.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)! It's like Napa Valley in CA but soooo much better.

My wife and I have wanted to partake in the trail since we moved to Indy, but haven't had any opportunities once our daughter was born - 5 years ago!

We were just in Cincinnati for the weekend earlier this month and I picked up a few nice Bourbons for the basement bar. Didn't get a chance to check out a distillery though.

Thanks, Randy

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:52 pm
by MagikFingerz
I'm afraid I'm too young to have started liking bourbon yet (I know, I'm ashamed :oops: ), but a trip to KY would certainly be a good start. I'm actually thinking of doing my MSc in the States, so that's not an impossibility!

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:37 am
by walrus
I have actually been in a fight that was fueled by bourbon and playing cards.

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:50 pm
by Magic_Orthodoxy
had wild turkey last night.... woke up at noon

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:47 pm
by canuckpoker
I almost hit a wild turkey with my car the other day. I think he had been drinking....wasn't in KY at the time ;)

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:39 pm
by MagikFingerz
Magic_Orthodoxy wrote:had wild turkey last night.... woke up at noon
You can't have had much if you woke up that early :roll:

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:49 pm
by Magic_Orthodoxy
I think what companies really do is force you to buy more than 1 item. Shipping and handling is so much for a single deck, you sit there and think, "well, I should order two decks for that shipping fee."

Re: Companies intentionally forcing multiple orders?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:52 pm
by MagikFingerz
Magic_Orthodoxy wrote:I think what companies really do is force you to buy more than 1 item. Shipping and handling is so much for a single deck, you sit there and think, "well, I should order two decks for that shipping fee."
Yeah, but we KNOW they're doing that :roll: