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Found this on Kickstarter... Seems expensive but it's my first time catching a new project.

"Stellar Kingdoms is a creative reimagining of the ordinary playing cards in an original Sci-Fi setting. Immerse yourself in the Age of Discovery across the vast reaches of breathtaking space, with daring heroes and formidable villains - the art of Stellar Kingdoms is based on the known tropes of adventure movies, games and novels, and seamlessly blend with the traditional game card style. Welcome to the new world - the world of Stellar Kingdoms!"

I'm not even going to bother commenting on the cards, $20/25/30 per deck from a first-time creator is laughable. Not including shipping.

MagikFingerz wrote:I'm not even going to bother commenting on the cards, $20/25/30 per deck from a first-time creator is laughable. Not including shipping.

Yeah, um I sent you a PM, sorry about editing it after you fixed it I didn't see your edit. Also yeah the deck looks like a 10-15 dollar deck but is listed by the dude for $20+ per deck.

OVSUB wrote:

MagikFingerz wrote:I'm not even going to bother commenting on the cards, $20/25/30 per deck from a first-time creator is laughable. Not including shipping.

Yeah, um I sent you a PM, sorry about editing it after you fixed it I didn't see your edit. Also yeah the deck looks like a 10-15 dollar deck but is listed by the dude for $20+ per deck.

I edited so fast it's no wonder you couldn't see it. I'm basically the John Cena of mods...

Yea, I am all into Sci-Fi and I think the deck actually doesn't look that bad. But I bet he is falling into that same trap that EPC did - wanting MetaLux/Foil/Embossed tucks with foil/MetaLux cards all from USPCC - and they are raking him over the coals on the quote. I bet he could chop off 33% of his cost by going with a USPCC/GW combo.

If you wanted the two-deck set...
Super Early Bird - $38 + $10 shipping = $48
Early Bird = $48 + $10 shipping = $58
Normal = $58 + $10 shipping = $68

I'm kinda a bit known for not caring too much about the price and I am like...."That shit's kinda expensive".

I like the looks but stupid expensive ... I'm out

After taking a closer look, he's applying Metalux into both front and back of the cards, hence the expense. His designs aren't bad but he should have gotten someone to check this for him b4 launching this. The Metaluxe on both side needs to be hyped at the very start and say that's why it's so expensive instead of only saying it in the comments. Also no mention I could find about what's going to be on the tuck, it's all about the cards.

Interesting backstory for this deck.

I always liked playing cards. Poker, bridge, blackjack - whatever we play, we always feel the spike of adrenaline - the thrill of walking on the edge with a successful bluff, almost sexual pleasure from a careful calculation paying off… Cards have long

WAIT. WAIT a second there.

almost sexual pleasure from a careful

Wha- How?

sexual pleasure

The term Cardist just took on a whole new meaning. I will not indulge this man's sexual deviancy. I'm out.

I tried to Google a funny image to respond to your post.

Don't do that.

I dunno if I should stay pledged or not. On one hand the design makes me very ... kinda, not as good as Gio but a different way of doing it, I guess, is what make me like it very much but I think this deck would do much better if it were just with metallic inks instead.

Good design and both sided Metalluxe. Not my cup of tea though. Was both sided Metalluxe done before?

MagikFingerz wrote:I'm not even going to bother commenting on the cards...

I got you covered:

Hipster creates hideous bullshit and self-justifies its existence with buzzwords and by expounding on his sexual attraction to coated pieces of paper.

I am hesitantly in for this deck. I will keep my pledge if he shares more details for the tuck box. Based on the renders, it looks like it might be embossed or at least have some raised UV spot ink and foil? And the fact it isn't explicit there are two versions, is a weird omission. Crossing my fingers this creator doesn't crap the bed on this one. The double Metalluxe could be awesome!

Creator has definitely bought a bunch of ads to market this deck... after one click, this campaign is now showing on Facebook and Instagram feed as Kickstarter sponsored ads...

No for me, there's a very odd ego in there somewhere.

I'm honestly somewhat surprised it hit its goal with how expensive the decks are. I mean I want to, but I am trying to practice good purchasing.

this guy did a much better job in making videos

Harvonsgard wrote:Good design and both sided Metalluxe. Not my cup of tea though. Was both sided Metalluxe done before?

Yes, the Royal Bee Premium Back No 168 deck was the first deck with Metalluxe on both sides.

Also, I had to read the entire page and then go into the comments to finally discover there are actually two decks. A silver one and a gold one. I finally watched the video and the very end of it shows the two decks...but all the pictures on KS just show the silver deck - and no mention of silver/gold in the tiers. I just get a bad feeling about this one, although I love the art genre.

kem-collector wrote:I'm honestly somewhat surprised it hit its goal with how expensive the decks are. I mean I want to, but I am trying to practice good purchasing.

Promoted by Jellop. That's why. But they'll take ~30%

shermjack wrote:Yes, the Royal Bee Premium Back No 168 deck was the first deck with Metalluxe on both sides.

Wow, thanks for that info! I have two of'em and always were thinking about thinning them out of my collection. I guess I'll keep'em now .

Tuck Boxes: The tuck box is matte black, with metallic details on top that can be either gold or silver - they're done by hot foiling. Thanks, let me know if you have more questions!

I 'm going to stay for a few more days but I'll be dropping.
Really feels like all hype and no reward for this deck is my reasoning.

I want to love this deck so much, but the lack of communication and the vague responses are huge warning flags for me. I am a bit surprised he has almost 400 backers who are fine with limited information. Here are my concerns:

- In his comments he says the deck will have Metalluxe printing on both sides. Why doesn't it state that in the campaign details?
- There are two versions of the deck (silver & gold) - why aren't they both CLEARLY highlighted in the campaign?
- The campaign video implies some kind of raised ink or some kind of embossing on the tuck cases. In the render, it clearly shows shadow relief from some kind of raised element yet he will not respond as to whether the tuck case has UV ink or embossing - only that it is matte stock with gold foil. That leads me to believe the tuck case will be flat, which does not match the render video. I would expect either UV ink or embossing for the price of this deck.
- This was brought up in the comments and in this thread, but why is shipping $5 for a deck, then $5 for each subsequent deck? It doesn't cost $10 to ship two decks. It certainly doesn't cost $25 to ship five!

The intentional vagueness of this campaign leads me to think he is setting backers up for disappointment. Maybe he isn't explicitly stating the details in the actual campaign because he intends to fulfill only part of the expected features. Call me cynical, but I would not be surprised if backers get an update a month after the campaign ends, saying "Oops, we can't print on both sides with Metalluxe. They misquoted me! Also, we can only do one deck version now. They misquoted me!"

Perhaps it will work out fine and the deck will turn out as good as the clever renders. I just don't like the vague approach.

Reason I'm dropping.

Reason I never backed.

BaconWise wrote:I want to love this deck so much, but the lack of communication and the vague responses are huge warning flags for me. I am a bit surprised he has almost 400 backers who are fine with limited information. Here are my concerns:

- In his comments he says the deck will have Metalluxe printing on both sides. Why doesn't it state that in the campaign details?
- There are two versions of the deck (silver & gold) - why aren't they both CLEARLY highlighted in the campaign?
- The campaign video implies some kind of raised ink or some kind of embossing on the tuck cases. In the render, it clearly shows shadow relief from some kind of raised element yet he will not respond as to whether the tuck case has UV ink or embossing - only that it is matte stock with gold foil. That leads me to believe the tuck case will be flat, which does not match the render video. I would expect either UV ink or embossing for the price of this deck.
- This was brought up in the comments and in this thread, but why is shipping $5 for a deck, then $5 for each subsequent deck? It doesn't cost $10 to ship two decks. It certainly doesn't cost $25 to ship five!

The intentional vagueness of this campaign leads me to think he is setting backers up for disappointment. Maybe he isn't explicitly stating the details in the actual campaign because he intends to fulfill only part of the expected features. Call me cynical, but I would not be surprised if backers get an update a month after the campaign ends, saying "Oops, we can't print on both sides with Metalluxe. They misquoted me! Also, we can only do one deck version now. They misquoted me!"

Perhaps it will work out fine and the deck will turn out as good as the clever renders. I just don't like the vague approach.

In addition to your concerns, he has not responded to any of my PMs. I'm also cautious with first time creators with zero backed projects. On top of that there doesn't appear to be any actual photos of the cards, they are just renders. Prototypes aren't that expensive and look much better. Although a prototype that mimics metallux may be impractical. Campaigns with a low funding goal and USPCC printing is also a red flag. I'm glad he has blown through his goal but you can't do a minimum print run with USPCC, Metallux and all the bells and whistles for $5000. You are easily pushing $9000 for what he wants to do.

Don't get me wrong. I hope he comes through a puts out an awesome deck. But there is more than one significant red flag.

New update from creator shows he is considering Cartamundi so they can do gilded edges. There is no mention in the campaign of gilding and this would mean no Metalluxe foil, either. More red flags. Just wanted to update in case anyone here is backing. Somehow this project has over 600 backers who are in for a wild ride

Surely this now having 1000-odd backers can not solely be down to Jellop? Facebook ads have never worked for me and I refuse to piss any more money away on them. I imagine they must triple-down on it for a big backer return but at what cost?

Reason I dropped my super early bird. Creator seems ambitious but very unreliable.

The ads for this campaign is popping up everywhere on my social media pages. Sketchy af.

Jocu wrote:Surely this now having 1000-odd backers can not solely be down to Jellop? Facebook ads have never worked for me and I refuse to piss any more money away on them. I imagine they must triple-down on it for a big backer return but at what cost?

I have been researching Jellop and seems like their ads do work and though I have not been able to make ads work but there are a few folks who swear by Jellop and their high precision targeted advertising. I don't have any the answer yet on how they do it but looks like they have got propreitary software that does the magic.