Faith Playing Cards (In Progress)

[Aliasfour]

Hello everyone
I would like to show you the deck I’m working on and where it has reached and how it started. I would love feedback - criticism.
I would like to say that the final Design is not finished and there’s a lot of stuff to work on. The characters - marking system - borders - cleaning - tweaking on some stuff - middle border. So I’m presenting the concept eventually.
If you would like to know the story behind the deck I would love to share it with you, just contact me at instagram: faithplayingcards . Or contact me at instagram: Aliasfour96 .
The face cards are almost finished, the tuck box is finished , aiming to print with cartamundi and going to kickstarter with a help of a friend since I cannot run a kickstarter in lebanon, a friend from Australia will run it (well known guy and trust worthy and a lot of people know him and has a website for playing cards).
I’m not showing the final designs on everything cause I want to keep it interesting and surprising, though I will be showing some glimpses on some of the courts and the pips and ace of spades.
Thank you everyone in advance and I appreciate you reading this whole post and I wish you give the feedback from your heart even if you don’t like it. Honesty is the key for major success!

[Aliasfour]

Hello everyone
I’m sorry if I got on the wrong path, all I wanted to is feedback and nothing was offered.
Thank you everyone

[hsbc]

Hello and thanks for posting here

The concept is interesting and I think it could end up pretty great I'd try to minimize the white diagonal line for sure - ideally the two images would blend together much more seamlessly The art style on the fourth card back is the cleanest for sure, I'd stick with that and iron out the details

[Harvonsgard]

Slipped through somehow, I never saw the first post.
For me the 3rd back design is the cleanest/best. Like hsbc wrote, hard borders that seperate the two halfs of a back design don't have a lot of fans out there. I would try to come up with a better solution. If the charaters would be more defined/realistic I would prefer that as well. These kinda blank 3D stickmen don't really pull me in.

[Aliasfour]

Thank you
I’ll tell you what is going to happen and what’s the story behind the deck and explain it briefly for you to have an idea what the design is about and who am I targeting.
First, this deck is for Magician’s, collectors, cardists and it’s going to be called Faith Playing Cards.

Second, the story behind the design: briefly as you can see a destroyed city with 3 characters mainly in the middle of no where near a cliff, 1st main character represents every government in the world (which is pushing the other one from the cliff) and the 2nd character which represents The People of every Country, represents the one being pushed and climbing the ladder, which will answer why is the deck named faith.

Third, the changes that are going to be done:
1- Marking system.
2- Detailed characters with clothes.
3- The sky will be connected with the outer border on each sides.
4- The ladder will be extended to reach the left border as if the ladder is exiting the card (nice for flourishes and deck fans)
5- The middle white line will be reduced in width and will be balanced with the outer border so both middle line and border are neither thick neither thin

[Harvonsgard]

A very strong and complex theme. Not an easy task to put that into a good card back. Kudos for choosing this as your first playing card project.

[Aliasfour]

Thank you Harvonsgaurd really appreciated, I want to give the community what they deserve to see.
It’s easier to talk than work but I wanna change the art of playing card designs with this deck to show that a logo isn’t important, whatever the logo is, the design should catch your eyes not the logo.
I appreciate your words. Thank you again

[montenzi]

I want to give the community what they deserve to see.

[Aliasfour]

I want to give the community what they deserve to see.

I apologize

[Adonael]

which will answer why is the deck named faith.

I was waiting for an explanation as I had no clue what I was looking at. I still don't and I didn't feel the above quote was answered at all lol. Maybe, possibly, when we see more either here or on the campaign the intentions will become clearer, and any final artwork will let us see what to expect it to look like. There really isn't much to go on as it is.

[Aliasfour]

which will answer why is the deck named faith.

I was waiting for an explanation as I had no clue what I was looking at. I still don't and I didn't feel the above quote was answered at all lol. Maybe, possibly, when we see more either here or on the campaign the intentions will become clearer, and any final artwork will let us see what to expect it to look like. There really isn't much to go on as it is.

I apologize

[kem-collector]

[BaconWise]

Late to the party here.

I always, ALWAYS appreciate a custom design that has some real thought involved. It's clear you have put a great deal of thought into your design. That being said, I think the deck might be over-conceptualized and the artwork isn't polished enough for my picky taste.

The artwork needs to be refined, I am sure, but my main issue is with the concept: does this theme need to be discussed on a deck of playing cards? It's a bold statement and a rather uncomfortable truth to consider as you play Go Fish with your daughter or Texas Hold 'Em with the guys. The theme doesn't really mesh with the title of Faith, in my opinion. The artwork conveys a pattern: you get pushed off the edge, then climb back up; you get pushed off the edge, then climb back up; lather, rinse, repeat. It speaks more to resilience than Faith. Considering the pattern, the person's "faith" that it won't happen again is seen as naive or even ignorant.

To me, this deck is sending mixed messages. Are you condemning the government for oppressing its people while highlighting the resilience of the oppressed? Or are you implying the people will keep climbing with the hope their government will save them by replacing the corrupt? It brings me back to my main question: why a deck of cards as opposed to another medium? I don't see how this whole concept will come together in a deck so I will be watching this thread to see how it develops.

[montenzi]

I want to give the community what they deserve to see.

Greetings

What do you mean ?

1. I mean that we deserve a little more than this.

Honesty is the key for major success!

2. Honestly, please don't waste your time. You have ZERO chances to produce a deck in this design.

[Harvonsgard]

You have ZERO chances to produce a deck in this design.

I would be careful with statements like this. I see decks getting funded on kickstarter with a final design which is much worse than the drafts already submitted here.

[Adonael]

Okay ! So, nice try .
It doesn’t need a dictionary to understand what I said, it’s clearly obvious as I explained that the government of every country in the world is pushing the people into darkness/ the deep hole, it’s a nice try from you to make me look like an idiot Thanks . And a ladder is coming up from the hole back to the cliff/the people are having faith to climb back up and go back to the city and survive how governments treat them.

I don't need to 'try' to do anything if the shoe fits all on it's own. All you said was that one blob person is pushing another, and that other person is also climbing a ladder at the same time. Then ta-dah: 'faith'. Nothing but vague nonsense and nowhere near the definition of an explanation. Even after reading everything else now I don't see why faith is the word you chose to represent the idea. Of course someone as naive as harvonsgard would think it's a 'strong and complex' theme but obviously he hasn't seen 10 years worth of angsty teenagers armed with photoshop etc on DeviantArt! The symbolism is heavy handed and far too literal, while the execution is amateur, not to mention that the governments are made of the people, it's not us vs them it's us vs us, one should focus on the disease not the symptoms. If you have any hope of funding this with even MPC the final artwork better be good enough to make up for everything else, don't know how you'll integrate your theme into the tuck/courts either but standard won't cut it.

[Aliasfour]

Late to the party here.

I always, ALWAYS appreciate a custom design that has some real thought involved. It's clear you have put a great deal of thought into your design. That being said, I think the deck might be over-conceptualized and the artwork isn't polished enough for my picky taste.

The artwork needs to be refined, I am sure, but my main issue is with the concept: does this theme need to be discussed on a deck of playing cards? It's a bold statement and a rather uncomfortable truth to consider as you play Go Fish with your daughter or Texas Hold 'Em with the guys. The theme doesn't really mesh with the title of Faith, in my opinion. The artwork conveys a pattern: you get pushed off the edge, then climb back up; you get pushed off the edge, then climb back up; lather, rinse, repeat. It speaks more to resilience than Faith. Considering the pattern, the person's "faith" that it won't happen again is seen as naive or even ignorant.

To me, this deck is sending mixed messages. Are you condemning the government for oppressing its people while highlighting the resilience of the oppressed? Or are you implying the people will keep climbing with the hope their government will save them by replacing the corrupt? It brings me back to my main question: why a deck of cards as opposed to another medium? I don't see how this whole concept will come together in a deck so I will be watching this thread to see how it develops.

Greetings

My fellow friend, I understand it’s showing a bit of confusion for you guys but I didn’t explain the full story because I have the face cards - the tuck box - the joker to show you also. I will explain the confusion about the difference between giving hope for the people to believe in the government and fighting, surviving, having faith is a Totally different thing. First, I need to say don’t overthink, the design after a lot of work this was the best to make simple and trying to deliver an idea this is art and not a book talking about a story and I’m not trying to publish a story or make conflicts about anything. That being said I need you to understand that all I want people to gain from this deck is faith, to have faith in themselves and this will lead to make you a better and stronger person my intentions are positive not negative.

Concerning the characters and being pushed from a cliff, it’s not showing that being pushed over and over again that would’ve been represented in a totally different way. It shows someone being pushed off a cliff and then climbing back up/I mentioned the characters weren’t finished so when they are you will understand more, I started off by saying that it’s unfinished work and tried to be clear about everything, sorry if I confused you, I must have explained more.

Thank you for your point I’m considering explaining everything later after everything is finished

[Aliasfour]

Whatever you mean by that, Thank you

[Aliasfour]

I want to give the community what they deserve to see.

Greetings

What do you mean ?

1. I mean that we deserve a little more than this.

Honesty is the key for major success!

2. Honestly, please don't waste your time. You have ZERO chances to produce a deck in this design.

I apologize

[kem-collector]

[Aliasfour]

I apologize

[Aliasfour]

You have ZERO chances to produce a deck in this design.

I would be careful with statements like this. I see decks getting funded on kickstarter with a final design which is much worse than the drafts already submitted here.

I apologize

[Aliasfour]

Okay ! So, nice try .
It doesn’t need a dictionary to understand what I said, it’s clearly obvious as I explained that the government of every country in the world is pushing the people into darkness/ the deep hole, it’s a nice try from you to make me look like an idiot Thanks . And a ladder is coming up from the hole back to the cliff/the people are having faith to climb back up and go back to the city and survive how governments treat them.

I apologize

[montenzi]

you don’t need to be an ass because I have faith and you don’t, this is absurd from you and thank you for making my point a lot better, because of such people like you I believe more in myself and I believe more in my deck and I have more faith in my deck and since you mentioned that I have zero chances

omg. man... I have no intention of discussing it with you. But you sent me two messages and asked me to explain this:" ". I explained. That's it. I don't care. Seriously!

[Aliasfour]

you don’t need to be an ass because I have faith and you don’t, this is absurd from you and thank you for making my point a lot better, because of such people like you I believe more in myself and I believe more in my deck and I have more faith in my deck and since you mentioned that I have zero chances

omg. man... I have no intention of discussing it with you. But you sent me two messages and asked me to explain this:" ". I explained. That's it. I don't care. Seriously!

I apologize

[montenzi]

you don’t need to be an ass because I have faith and you don’t, this is absurd from you and thank you for making my point a lot better, because of such people like you I believe more in myself and I believe more in my deck and I have more faith in my deck and since you mentioned that I have zero chances

omg. man... I have no intention of discussing it with you. But you sent me two messages and asked me to explain this:" ". I explained. That's it. I don't care. Seriously!

Excuse you smart man, then why you came in here and posted in the first place. LIES upon LIES .
Get a Life, stop the hate for newcomers

GTFO please. And please don't send me any messages. I DONT CARE. You asked me to explain. I explained. End of the story.

[kem-collector]

[BaconWise]

...I’m sure your best idea about designing is looking at your your shit after sculpting it with your tongue to make a shape of a dick signed with your zero IQ.

Much Love Much Respect Much of everything you need to get your life together BRO! [MURRAY]

I'm not so sure love and respect are the best word choices after a phrase regarding the sculpting of a turd penis, though it is quite the visual! When a thread devolves like this, it makes me wonder why I even attempt to provide feedback at all. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that your next update would help clarify your concept but it seems you are content to simply throw gasoline on a flame. You have escalated things to a personal level by sending private messages and with direct, public confrontations. My best advice would be to take a step back and have your next post be an update on the deck, perhaps in a week or so. Let things cool down then seek some feedback on a complete design. I have seen plenty of threads that begin to turn nasty. When it comes to feedback at UC, sometimes you get the feather, sometimes you get the hammer. The designers I like to support and see succeed are those who can absorb the hammer blows and find a way to turn the comments into useful criticism, or simply shrug them off.

This is not one of those occasions. This thread is in a flat spin and I imagine this time tomorrow it will be locked by the mods. If you are truly seeking feedback and not a fight, re-group and bring us some juicy updates. Otherwise, I think we can all agree it's best to shut it down.

[Aliasfour]

...I’m sure your best idea about designing is looking at your your shit after sculpting it with your tongue to make a shape of a dick signed with your zero IQ.

Much Love Much Respect Much of everything you need to get your life together BRO! [MURRAY]

I'm not so sure love and respect are the best word choices after a phrase regarding the sculpting of a turd penis, though it is quite the visual! When a thread devolves like this, it makes me wonder why I even attempt to provide feedback at all. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that your next update would help clarify your concept but it seems you are content to simply throw gasoline on a flame. You have escalated things to a personal level by sending private messages and with direct, public confrontations. My best advice would be to take a step back and have your next post be an update on the deck, perhaps in a week or so. Let things cool down then seek some feedback on a complete design. I have seen plenty of threads that begin to turn nasty. When it comes to feedback at UC, sometimes you get the feather, sometimes you get the hammer. The designers I like to support and see succeed are those who can absorb the hammer blows and find a way to turn the comments into useful criticism, or simply shrug them off.

This is not one of those occasions. This thread is in a flat spin and I imagine this time tomorrow it will be locked by the mods. If you are truly seeking feedback and not a fight, re-group and bring us some juicy updates. Otherwise, I think we can all agree it's best to shut it down.

I apologize for my non-sense, for defending myself, for defending my rights to give someone the right answer he deserves, I apologize for defending my dignity and my respect.
I apologize for trying more than once to explain more about the deck and the story behind it.

We are human beings, at first before I joined I was like how much did I need this for me to achieve my goals, joining this community made me re-think on everything about humanity and respect and dignity.
I took a first look it’s always harsh with replies but I didn’t see no one being disrespected and I didn’t see no one being told you have zero chances please give up and I never seen anyone tell a newcomer to quit.it all started perfectly as I wanted with negative feedback that I loved reading specifically from you and then BOOM a bomb suddenly dropped here for no reason, I clearly didn’t ask to be harassed I asked for feedback. If the mods wanna kick me I’m happy with that and concerning the post don’t worry I already asked them to shut it down because I tried earning your respect All I got was disrespect and suicidal people.

Thank You for having me here

[Harvonsgard]

That was predictable .