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Hello UC, happy new year!

I've just shared my next project on Modern Idols Kickstarter and I thought to post here as well.

The name is "Italia Divina" and the main theme is my beautiful country, Italy.

One of the main features of the decks is that pips include a secret or a hint about Italy. You can use the cards for learn about hidden places, or even for planning a vacation.
I've visited some of those places and I can assure they're incredible, of course (apart design cards I love travel fyi)
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In the best tradition of Thirdway Industries decks, there are Goddesses&Pretty Ladies in those decks as well. Every court is a famous italian city, personified. The courts will be all different, so we're talking about 24 different cities of Italy (there are one for each region, plus some extras). Here is one of my fav courts (and probably the easiest one to guess):
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For now I've revealed Italia Radiosa and Italia Segreta, but at this point everyone knows that there will be a limited edition :twisted:
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Printer will be USPCC or Cartamundi, not decided yet. Maybe even both :-)

My plan is launch this after Modern Idols, so probably end of February/early March.
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Looks really good and I am a fan of this style : )
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Great work as always, backing as always :D
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Absolutely love the idea and the lovely art. I feel like the tucks aren't up to you level of design quality to be honest. They seem a bit basic for such a rich source of inspiration. It could just be the text?
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I will be backing if course! I too wish the tuck design could be spruced up a bit.

I am thinking the 3rd deck will be white and have one of Gio's ladies on it.

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As a general rule, I tend not to favor decks that have writing on them unless there is a particular use (as a writer's prompt, for example), although these are totally keeping in line with some souvenir decks I've picked up along the way. Imagine my surprise when I had those two cards translated, however:

10 of Diamonds: Inconceivable / you keep using that word / I do not think it means what you think it means

7 of Clubs: Visit the park, you'll see bodacious ta-tas.

Clearly, I need to know more!
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Hello guys! Thank you for the feedback, as always much appreciated.

The two boxes shown are the unlimited ones, and they're made to work together with the limited (that will be white, yes).
I think the final product will be better than the rendering, gold on red and green seems a lot less shinier than it will be. However, I'll think about the boxes more to see if I can improve them further.

Those are the backs:
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@Allan - yes, I usually don't like text on cards too - but this time I think it's a great feature, and I've tried to integrate it nicely into the pips.
I am thinking to write in English the tips, to make them more easy to read. However, they should be easy to find, they're all places (just google the names).

Il "Gigante dell'Appennino al Parco di Pratolino" is a majestic statue of a Giant in a park near Florence. You can chek him here > https://tinyurl.com/rlq264o" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Il "Parco di Mostri" di Bomarzo is a crazy place near Viterbo (Center Italy, relatively near to Rome) full of statues of Monsters and Mythological Creatures. It inspired me a lot. Here is it > https://tinyurl.com/w8df5mf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Both of those are not typical destinations when people visit Italy - many italians don't know about those either (I've stumbled into both in the last years).

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Looks nice so far. I'm intrigued for now but not convinced yet.
The tucks (with the limited one) forming the Italian flag is a nice feature. I personally would wish for three different card backs though. Another thing would be that I like the character to be the main focus on the court cards. I totally understand the choice made for the theme, but for me it would be still better if the buildings would be a little more subtle in the background. Just my two cents. Best of success with your campaign Gio.

Since nobody mentioned it yet, the KoH represents Roma... did I win something? :ugdance:
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Thirdway Industries wrote:I am thinking to write in English the tips, to make them more easy to read.
No no no no! :o Keep it in Italian :D

I would appreciate translations though :uggrin:
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Yeah, I think the tips in Italian fit a bit more as the whole theme revolves around Italy.

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+1 for Italian.
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@Harvonsgard - Backs may have minor differences, but I prefer keep the unlimited ones very similar for made them good for play games with two decks (extremely popular in Italy).
The limited one may be different.

About the buildings, I understand what you're saying. I'll tell a little background, I hope it will be interesting.
My first idea was that the Goddesses should have just the "spirit" of the city, avoiding explicit elements like buildings.

However, I've realized after the first two cities I've sketched, that was almost impossible: only the main cities could have been portrayed with few elements and be recognizable, so I've started adding buildings.
Anyways, even with the architecture, recognize some cities will be really difficult, even for an italian :uggrin:

Rome was super-easy :uggrin: If someone could catch all the cities without help I would be really impressed, anyways.
I am thinking to add an explanation card in every deck with the names of the 12 cities included.

About Italian, thank you for the feedback, guys - very useful.
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Wow, really impressed with this deck. You're showing great breadth in the many diverse themes since Betrayers. I'm really loving this deck as it'll actually be helpful for us when we visit Italy. Great that you're pointing out all the things that are off the usual tourists destinations.

yes, please do include a translation card in English while keeping the words in Italian.

So in keeping with the 2019 trend, we can expect stretch goal of a special limited 3rd deck in white holo foil and holo gilding to complete the Italian flag, yes? :ugthink:
(my sincere apologies if I actually spoiled it! Pls don't make it too expensive. :? :lol: :D )
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@Eric - thank you for the kind words!

I can't translate the cards "directly" if I write in italian (I prefer avoid too much text on the cards) but I promise they'll be easy to use either way.
Basically all "secrets" will be places, so you should just put the words in Google search or even Google Maps to see the pics and the address.

Yes, there will be a white limited edition :-) MAYBE White + Silver (no holofoil this time).
It will be more expensive than the other two decks, but reasonable: I prefer keep Kickstarter prices affordable for everyone.
Prices probably similar to my other "trident based campaigns" (like Odissea or Betrayers).
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This deck would be great with a book with the art from each court with the translation and perhaps a map even with the locations marked or with a sheet of stickers to mark them as one discovers them.

For the 3rd deck in white, perhaps red and green foil would look nice with the design to stay in line with the Italian color scheme. Cold foil on the backs too [emoji6].

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STLBluesNut wrote:This deck would be great with a book with the art from each court with the translation and perhaps a map even with the locations marked or with a sheet of stickers to mark them as one discovers them.
Ooo… excellent idea. That would make a great addon for those of us who love travel or discovering new things. The map can be part of the booklet. Perhaps the center so that it can be bigger without being a separate.
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I like almost everything about this except the titles on the tucks. Something about them just doesn't vibe with me. Maybe it's the font, maybe it's the placement, maybe it's the way it blends into the rest of the tuck front (not in a good way). Either way, especially as an Italian American, I will be keeping my eye on this.
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Hello UC!

I have (hopefully) good news on Italia Divina.

I've revised the tuckboxes (@Vasta - I was uncertain about the font as well, and I've changed it. Thanks for the feedback!). As almost everyone imagined, there will be a white/silver limited edition, and I'm showing it here as well.
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The backs of Segreta and Radiosa are similar (designed this way to play 2-decks games, very popular in Italy). Italia Divina's back is full bleed silver. I know what you guys are thinking: Metalluxe or Foil on back will be a stretch goal (if not reached, Pure Silver Ink instead).
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The courts will be completely different:
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I am waiting some confirmations about Eva and Idols before launching this campaign, my idea is end of February. Stay tuned for the date, but meanwile you can bookmark the project page
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Thirdway Industries wrote:I've revised the tuckboxes (@Vasta - I was uncertain about the font as well, and I've changed it. Thanks for the feedback!).
This might be the first time any one of my stupid suggestions actually caused a redesign! I may be bias but I think the tucks look MUCH better now. I'll be there on launch!

Thanks, Gio!
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Great!! Long live Italy! I launched my deck three days ago and there is still a little money left but I will try to help!
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vasta41 wrote:
Thirdway Industries wrote:I've revised the tuckboxes (@Vasta - I was uncertain about the font as well, and I've changed it. Thanks for the feedback!).
This might be the first time any one of my stupid suggestions actually caused a redesign! I may be bias but I think the tucks look MUCH better now. I'll be there on launch!

Thanks, Gio!
That was not stupid at all, I was not sure about that choice: last font was too old/classical, this new one is more soft and probably more fitted for the theme.


@The_9ofDiamonds - I saw on your Kickstarter that you live in Acqui Terme, and I should have a great news for you:
One of the number cards include "La Bollente" of Acqui, which is one of my favourite fountains in Italy.
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Kickstarter date

Monday, 17th of February 2020 at 21:00 UTC

Milan CET 22 | New York 16:00 EST | Los Angeles 13:00 PST 
Moscow MSK 18/2 00:00 - Singapore SGT18/2 05:00 - Tokyo JST 18/2 06:00 - Sydney AEDT 18/2 08:00

As always, some EB on various categories :uggrin:

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Here is a preview of the LE
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A limited card (that represent the city of Urbino)
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And a pic that show the courts differences
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Silly suggestion and probably too late but have you thought about changing the font of cards to match the new font of tuck?
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vasta41 wrote:Silly suggestion and probably too late but have you thought about changing the font of cards to match the new font of tuck?
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I love the silver and white contrast :O. Would be crazy amazing if this was cold foil too
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@Vasta - I am evaluating it, But I think both the "old" and the new fonts are good :-)

@Chicken_ql - I'm evaluating this too, but it will be hard. I am more oriented toward USPCC for the whole project for many reasons, so the only foil option available is Metalluxe on back (which will be a stretch goal). However, Cartamundi is also sending me a quote, let's see :)
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I wouldn't mind paying more for the foiling O_O. Silver ink is nice but it's not cold foil
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Very excited for these!
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