Fontaine Futures
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:18 pm
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This guy keeps selling like crazy.
This guy keeps selling like crazy.
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Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:41 pm
Tried to get a brick, cart changed to sold out during transaction. Went back to get a few single packs, cart changed to sold out during transaction. Still incredibly frustrated with stores that don't hold your order while checking out.
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:48 pm
I'm only interested in the Floral deck, I'll just wait for one on eBay (or if someone here ends up with one they don't want, just send it to me... 
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)Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:00 pm
Well if anyone was lucky enough to pick up several and would be willing to part with a few close to cost I would greatly appreciate parrots or florals
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:49 pm
Check out socal.playing.cards on IG. He got a few bricks at CCon and got a few complete sets he sold.
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:06 am
Plus on Socal's IG story, he said he'll do a complete set giveaway once he gets them! Also this time Zach put a limit of 36 decks per buyer and it still sold out in 4 minutes! Bricks sold out in 2 min. Amazing. Only JR and Lotrek manages to sell out that fast, but that's only cuz they sell hundred plus or less. Zach's by the 10k!
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:50 am
+1Justin O. wrote:Well if anyone was lucky enough to pick up several and would be willing to part with a few close to cost I would greatly appreciate parrots or florals
Parrots and Floral are the only ones I‘m interrested in. The other ones are either whack (Window, Polka) of just meh (Glitch, 500).
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:10 am
Do we actually know he sells/releases that many at a time? Sounds very implausible. I’m not saying it isn’t possible, but does he actually state print run quantities, how many are released etc? Have anyone done the max cart trick at the time of release?Eric Lee wrote:Plus on Socal's IG story, he said he'll do a complete set giveaway once he gets them! Also this time Zach put a limit of 36 decks per buyer and it still sold out in 4 minutes! Bricks sold out in 2 min. Amazing. Only JR and Lotrek manages to sell out that fast, but that's only cuz they sell hundred plus or less. Zach's by the 10k!
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:56 am
What does it matter anyways?
For the part with print runs; fontaines always have the print run numbers on the bottom. Futures have the numbers of every edition on the bag aswell. I think they were 10,500 in total. If you minus the ones he already sold at CC, minus the ones he keeps/gifts at f&f. Maybe 9,000 sold max yesterday? Not really a outstanding number if you count in the high demand for them.
For the part with print runs; fontaines always have the print run numbers on the bottom. Futures have the numbers of every edition on the bag aswell. I think they were 10,500 in total. If you minus the ones he already sold at CC, minus the ones he keeps/gifts at f&f. Maybe 9,000 sold max yesterday? Not really a outstanding number if you count in the high demand for them.
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:09 am
It is awesome that the can pull so much money out of the playing card community. Hopefully that drains others so they don't compete with me for really great decks. Still no fontaines in my collection. I hope to keep it that way.
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:32 pm
Well, he was four years ago: https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015 ... y-con-2015MagikFingerz wrote:Do we actually know he sells/releases that many at a time? Sounds very implausible. I’m not saying it isn’t possible, but does he actually state print run quantities, how many are released etc? Have anyone done the max cart trick at the time of release?Eric Lee wrote:Plus on Socal's IG story, he said he'll do a complete set giveaway once he gets them! Also this time Zach put a limit of 36 decks per buyer and it still sold out in 4 minutes! Bricks sold out in 2 min. Amazing. Only JR and Lotrek manages to sell out that fast, but that's only cuz they sell hundred plus or less. Zach's by the 10k!
This guy has figured out a way to make a ton of money with cardistry and card decks, how can I hate that?Two years ago, he manufactured 2,500 red Fontaine decks, which sold out quickly and now fetch $150 a deck (he claims) on eBay. For his next set, blue-backed Fontaines, he upped the run to 15,000 decks. Mueller sold 9,000 decks at $12 each on Kickstarter, and the remaining 6,000 on his website for $15 a deck. You do the math.
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:22 am
I actually wanted to buy 36 decks but wasn't even to buy even one. Just went too fast.
Zach is a master of his branding. It's true that there were 10,500 blind decks but this is 6 different varieties. One of them only have 500 prints so similar to some of Lotreks releases. The genius is in the way he sold them - via the blind packs. Now from a collectors point of view - you have several levels of selling - 12 inside the complimentary limited edition brick boxes (only 280 released), after that is the blind packaging, after that if someone opens is the unopened card. You can see them in each of them in eBay now.
His cards are like the Air Jordans of shoes (or whatever limited editions shoes the young ones go crazy for).
To be honest, I first started collecting playing cards bec I wanted to learn how to shuffle (like in the movies) - Zachs videos at the time were what I studied the most - probably why he's popular. I bought some Fontaines, then Virtuoso cards then collected lots of stuff and now I'm collecting cards by Lotrek.
Zach is a master of his branding. It's true that there were 10,500 blind decks but this is 6 different varieties. One of them only have 500 prints so similar to some of Lotreks releases. The genius is in the way he sold them - via the blind packs. Now from a collectors point of view - you have several levels of selling - 12 inside the complimentary limited edition brick boxes (only 280 released), after that is the blind packaging, after that if someone opens is the unopened card. You can see them in each of them in eBay now.
His cards are like the Air Jordans of shoes (or whatever limited editions shoes the young ones go crazy for).
To be honest, I first started collecting playing cards bec I wanted to learn how to shuffle (like in the movies) - Zachs videos at the time were what I studied the most - probably why he's popular. I bought some Fontaines, then Virtuoso cards then collected lots of stuff and now I'm collecting cards by Lotrek.
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:29 am
I want to puke on these.
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:53 am
Maybe this is why they are extra sealed?theCapraAegagrus wrote:I want to puke on these.
Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:27 am
Genius? I don't know about that. It's great for him I suppose because if you want all 6 decks you might have to buy 2 bricks instead of 6. For playing cards, I think this mystery bag bs is just a cheap trick for a money grab and I really hope that does not catch on with other companies. It might be fine for little 1 dollar mystery toys but for this market it's a transparently bs gimmick to get more of those decks sold. Whatever, I guess, I'm not the moron buying a brick in hopes of one shit deck that has only 500 of these made printed on them.tapunan wrote: The genius is in the way he sold them - via the blind packs.
His cards are like the Air Jordans of shoes
Like air Jordan's? I suppose if you mean horrible looking and ridiculously over priced.
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Re: Fontaine Futures
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:29 pm
hsbc wrote: Well, he was four years ago: https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015 ... y-con-2015
This guy has figured out a way to make a ton of money with cardistry and card decks, how can I hate that?Two years ago, he manufactured 2,500 red Fontaine decks, which sold out quickly and now fetch $150 a deck (he claims) on eBay. For his next set, blue-backed Fontaines, he upped the run to 15,000 decks. Mueller sold 9,000 decks at $12 each on Kickstarter, and the remaining 6,000 on his website for $15 a deck. You do the math.
Thanks for the link. Interesting read. Nice to see that he's giving back to the community by sponsoring upcoming talent. Tutorials are still free and sponsors new cardists like athletes from sportswear companies.For cardist Zach Mueller, a 19-year-old living in Los Angeles, his business takes a page from the music industry. On his site, fontainecards.com, Mueller offers cardistry-technique videos for free. Those tutorials serve as a commercial for his designer playing cards, which, Mueller says, gross six figures a year. Think of it as an indie band offering free mp3 downloads to entice listeners to buy T-shirts and posters, the real moneymakers.
Mueller’s business has proved so successful he’s now in the position of sponsoring up-and-coming cardists. At Cardistry-Con, he launched a pilot program in which every month, he’ll spotlight a new cardistry talent. Mueller will help edit the performance and tutorial videos, provided the sponsor recipient uses Fontaine cards exclusively for one month. In exchange: the rising cardist gets exposure to Mueller’s 33,000 YouTube subscribers, free Fontaine-branded clothing, two dozen sets of playing cards, and most importantly, $100. “I want a kid to get sponsored,” he said, “then go home and tell mom and dad, ‘I got paid to do cardistry.’”