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I realize the theme may not be the most popular these days but I think the art is very good. Especially on the art deck with a 2 layer tuck. I went in for the EB pair. Prices aren't bad and great art imo.

The artwork is pretty rad for these, I like this a lot better than the Dragon Back campaign actually.

Also, interesting choice, to go with one NPCC and USPCC printed deck. Something seems off about the tuck design though, can't put my finger on it.

After seeing the artwork on the Mongol Empire, I'd say that's a great decision to go with NPCC for the art edition. A set for me!! And since the creator doesn't seem to have an Instagram account set up for this deck, I'm just going to go on and promote for him.

Testament Classic edition (USPCC):

Testament Art edition (NPCC):

Definitely intriguing and incredible artwork. Considering the theme of the deck, do you all find this a bit...provocative? I'm not conservative when it comes to art but it seems to clash a bit with the source material in a way. Just curious. I only bring this up because I saw the thread and thought this could be a great deck of cards for my in-laws! Then I saw the art and thought...nope. They would not appreciate it as much as I do, for sure

It is very good artwork, but I guess I am not wild about mixing my religion and playing cards. Wish the creator luck though with the deck.

BaconWise wrote: Considering the theme of the deck, do you all find this a bit...provocative? I'm not conservative when it comes to art but it seems to clash a bit with the source material in a way.

I think the only 2 cards that would be provocative may be the jokers from a visual standpoint. Adam and Eve were naked in the garden until they ate the fruit and covered up. Delilah was a temptress, so her depiction may be considered appropriate.

The other thing that may be considered odd is having a Biblical theme on a medium that is widely used for gambling, but not exclusively, so its debatable.

For as many people that aren't religious or believers, then this should be no different than the depiction of Norse or Egyptian or Roman gods. I have never seen anyone take issue with Gio's decks for religious figures showing skin.

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BaconWise wrote:Considering the theme of the deck, do you all find this a bit...provocative? I'm not conservative when it comes to art but it seems to clash a bit with the source material in a way. Just curious. I only bring this up because I saw the thread and thought this could be a great deck of cards for my in-laws! Then I saw the art and thought...nope. They would not appreciate it as much as I do, for sure

The ones I find provocative are Cain and the two jokers, the others fit with the source material (I'm a biblical major). And yes, you could say that because this is my major I'm biased a bit in my likings, but considering artwork I try to be as unbiased as possible. So my verdict is that this type of Christian art is not uncommon where you'll find similar artwork in Children's biblical illustrations and Sunday schools. However, this design is more crisp and delicate, and no one has thought about producing it on a deck of cards, which could work handily as visual aids for storytelling (especially the art edition). So I'm agreeing with STLBluesNut here

STLBluesNut wrote:The other thing that may be considered odd is having a Biblical theme on a medium that is widely used for gambling, but not exclusively, so its debatable.

On the campaign page he did stress this:
"I find myself regularly backing projects and seeking out designs which reflect some of the great works of fiction from history, of literature and art. ... Yet not the characters from the Bible? Great stories such as Jonah and the Great Fish (whale), Sampson and Delilah, The many amazing stories of Moses - there are too many characters to consider and some amazing and defining stories which have shaped our lives whether Christian or not. ...
With a huge caveat, each deck bears the seal; 'On opening this deck, I agree to the condition of sale that the cards may not be used for gambling purposes'. This is an art deck for the love of cards and the art from the bible, not for a gambling aid."

STLBluesNut wrote:For as many people that aren't religious or believers, then this should be no different than the depiction of Norse or Egyptian or Roman gods. I have never seen anyone take issue with Gio's decks for religious figures showing skin.

YES.

Decknowledgy wrote: 'On opening this deck, I agree to the condition of sale that the cards may not be used for gambling purposes'

This is classic. I now wish I should have given a similar disclaimer or note on the kickstarter page for the first GPCC deck, Divine Art. That could have saved me a few threatening mails and messages that landed in my inbox due to a few people taking objection on displaying Hindu deities on playing cards.

Anyways, you learn from such instances for sure. Is it just me or if intolerance is really increasing in the society looking at such notes coming from designers.

guru wrote:

Decknowledgy wrote: 'On opening this deck, I agree to the condition of sale that the cards may not be used for gambling purposes'

This is classic. I now wish I should have given a similar disclaimer or note on the kickstarter page for the first GPCC deck, Divine Art. That could have saved me a few threatening mails and messages that landed in my inbox due to a few people taking objection on displaying Hindu deities on playing cards.

Anyways, you learn from such instances for sure. Is it just me or if intolerance is really increasing in the society looking at such notes coming from designers.

Coming from religious & theological studies, yeah... intolerance is definitely increasing. Mind here, I'm not the kind of person who goes on the mission of spreading gospel on the streets and rarely share my religious beliefs with non-believers. But even by the slightest mention of any religious terms and jargons people get offended and become indifferent very quickly, tossing their heads and giving a "smh " expression. This is all inevitable after ISIS, (Tele-)Evangelism in the States, China cracking down on churches and mosques, and the very recent shooting in Christchurh, NZ. So yeah, the majority of people want NO religious entanglements with their identity and reputation.

Decknowledgy wrote: 'On opening this deck, I agree to the condition of sale that the cards may not be used for gambling purposes'

You know, this just makes me want to pledge for a brick so that I can rebel against this "condition". Hail Satan!

TwoPiece wrote:

Decknowledgy wrote: 'On opening this deck, I agree to the condition of sale that the cards may not be used for gambling purposes'

You know, this just makes me want to pledge for a brick so that I can rebel against this "condition". Hail Satan!

Just another daily dosage of TeePee!

TwoPiece wrote:

Decknowledgy wrote: 'On opening this deck, I agree to the condition of sale that the cards may not be used for gambling purposes'

You know, this just makes me want to pledge for a brick so that I can rebel against this "condition". Hail Satan!

I bet you won't!

The full-bleed back is stupid.

vasta41 wrote:

TwoPiece wrote:

Decknowledgy wrote: 'On opening this deck, I agree to the condition of sale that the cards may not be used for gambling purposes'

You know, this just makes me want to pledge for a brick so that I can rebel against this "condition". Hail Satan!

I bet you won't!

The full-bleed back is stupid.

You underestimate me. I am disappointed.

Can he kick me out of the campaign if I hail Satan in the comments of the project..?

TwoPiece wrote:

vasta41 wrote:

TwoPiece wrote:

Decknowledgy wrote: 'On opening this deck, I agree to the condition of sale that the cards may not be used for gambling purposes'

You know, this just makes me want to pledge for a brick so that I can rebel against this "condition". Hail Satan!

I bet you won't!

The full-bleed back is stupid.

You underestimate me. I am disappointed.

Can he kick me out of the campaign if I hail Satan in the comments of the project..?

I was making a joke about betting... [MURRAY]

The creator has decided to do a relaunch and has officially come to UC to ask for feedback for the new launch. Head over to the drafting board if you would like to share some comments!

Drafting Board: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=13476

New KS preview: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/25 ... n=1aa55a18

IG for publicity: https://www.instagram.com/testament_cards/

New back design:


New tuck for the Art edition:

Those jokers with identical poses and the back are all very nice

Gosh, I love those aces, jokers, card backs and tuck so much D:

Thank you, everyone!

You input has already been influential. I'll keep the chat to the new post - but I'm loving this!

Erm, TwoPiece, you and I need a word in quiet about to think about your actions and words my friend.

Albendon wrote:Erm, TwoPiece, you and I need a word in quiet about to think about your actions and words my friend.

u cant tell me what 2 do with my cards ur not my dad

Relaunched live

Seriously considering backing just to gamble with these...

I was in on the first campaign but with the change of printer (to WJPCC ) in the relaunch, I'm out. Looks like it's well on its way to funding, though.

PrincessTrouble wrote:I was in on the first campaign but with the change of printer (to WJPCC ) in the relaunch, I'm out. Looks like it's well on its way to funding, though.

Is WJPCC that bad?

TwoPiece wrote:Seriously considering backing just to gamble with these...

I bid on these because they will make great gifts. And you havent seen gambling until you have seen nuns play paigow

macstrat wrote:

TwoPiece wrote:Seriously considering backing just to gamble with these...

I bid on these because they will make great gifts. And you havent seen gambling until you have seen nuns play paigow

If he gets to JUST UNDER with 1 day left, I will do Satan's work, and push him past the goal line.

TwoPiece wrote:If he gets to JUST UNDER with 1 day left, I will do Satan's work, and push him past the goal line.

How much is just under?

chicken_ql wrote:

TwoPiece wrote:If he gets to JUST UNDER with 1 day left, I will do Satan's work, and push him past the goal line.

How much is just under?

Within £66.6

TwoPiece wrote:If he gets to JUST UNDER with 1 day left, I will do Satan's work, and push him past the goal line.

I've heard that Satan is the best friend the church has ever had, what with keeping them in business all these years, but I have never seen it taken literally.