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Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:31 pm**

In a midst of all the new bullshit cardistry decks, each worse than the other, I thought about opening a thread for something actually good: The new Joker and the Thief deck. I don't think they have released the name yet, but they have released a bunch of pictures. Here are some:

Posted: **Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:44 pm**

Not quite my cup of tea, but I can certainly appreciate the quality of the art on these. A welcome contrast to the recent decks you refer to, indeed.

My constructive criticism would be to make the courts slightly bigger (or add something else) to fill out the card, and to make the red on the backs - particularly the corner elements - stand out more.

Posted: **Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:42 am**

I agree with Tom- too much white space on the courts. Also, the day of the dead theme has been done to death, no pun intended. The art is fantastic though.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:31 am**

The name of this deck is Maidens, coming to Kickstarter at 1st of September.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:04 am**

I personally don't mind the courts as they are - but do agree the palette is a little muted for my usual taste.

Tom's idea of picking a colour to be more vivid (a la Schindler's List) could certainly lift it a little. The red is a sensible choice - looking at the jack of hearts the index seems almost to blend with the base shade of the cards.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:38 pm**

I'm digging it enough to pick one or two up based on the price, and I agree with everyone's comments so far.

I can't wait to see the tuck case for this.

Posted: **Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:40 pm**

So many questions: Can they run a smooth campaign? Will these be priced correctly? Can they provide reasonable shipping & fulfillment? Will these be blown out on Touch of Modern just as soon as they're finally produced?

From the preview/teaser pics, I can't tell if the faces have a white background, light-blue background, or both. I tend to avoid decks who's color on the background of the face cards fail to match the color of the border on the backs.

Posted: **Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:35 am**

According to J&T's Facebook page EB's should be 10 $ with free US shipping. For US customers that is not a bad price no matter how you look at it. International shipping will most likely once again cost bananas I'm guessing.

Edit: USPCC printing

Posted: **Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:44 pm**

For playfull integrity and the mirror of it, give me the Coen Brothers.
For comprehensive delivery, delineation and discovery, you cannot ignore EndersGames and his neighbour, guru.
Both telling us how it is, could and can be done, acknowledging their mis-steps, and moving on.
For me, I am biased.
Biased aginst the fake sincerity, the confection, of bullshit in all its different guises and approaches ....
For the bullshitters will win, every time.
If you let them.
If you let them.
Biased ?
Hell, Yeh ....
Coz life itself is biased ....
By the fraternity, and motherhood, of Bullshitters.

Posted: **Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:50 am**

Bruno wrote:For playfull integrity and the mirror of it, give me the Coen Brothers.
For comprehensive delivery, delineation and discovery, you cannot ignore Enders Games and his neighbour, guru.
Both telling us how it is, could and can be done, acknowledging their mis-steps, and moving on.
For me, I am biased.
Biased aginst the fake sincerity, the confection, of bullshit in all its different guises and approaches ....
For the bullshitters will win, every time.
If you let them.
If you let them.
Biased ?
Hell, Yeh ....
Coz life itself is biased ....
By the fraternity, and motherhood, of Bullshitters.

WTF are you rambling on about now Bruno?

Posted: **Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:11 pm**

RichK wrote:
Bruno wrote:For playfull integrity and the mirror of it, give me the Coen Brothers.
For comprehensive delivery, delineation and discovery, you cannot ignore EndersGames and his neighbour, guru.
Both telling us how it is, could and can be done, acknowledging their mis-steps, and moving on.
For me, I am biased.
Biased aginst the fake sincerity, the confection, of bullshit in all its different guises and approaches ....
For the bullshitters will win, every time.
If you let them.
If you let them.
Biased ?
Hell, Yeh ....
Coz life itself is biased ....
By the fraternity, and motherhood, of Bullshitters.

WTF are you rambling on about now Bruno?

Clarity and Form Rich ol' mate, same as yourself ....
Imbued with some spirit, granted, given my long term purview, hey.
So, a certain spirited clarity of form and purpose, along with a hefty dose of endeavour, should bring us up to th'mark ....
Yes ?
Certainly flamin' hope so !

Posted: **Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:01 am**

Hey, guys. Let's keep the conversation about the cards, please.

Posted: **Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:48 am**

Sorry for that.

I agree the red should be darker to stand out more. I'd like to know the true color of the face cards too.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:09 pm**

Hi Guys,

Just thought I'd let you know that we are launching in just under an hour. We have a limited amount of $10 early birds available!
We read your concerns about the colours being dull. This is just from our photos, our editing muted the colours slightly. You'll be able to see on the campaign and video the true colour of the deck, it pops while still holding true to the aesthetic we are going for.

We hope to see you at the launch!

Cheers,
James
Joker and the Thief Playing Card Co.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:51 pm**

Hitting refresh on kickstarter...
I better not miss those early birds...

Edit: Backer #1

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:04 pm**

Thanks for your support JuFiN!

We are LIVE - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jo ... ying-cards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:46 pm**

Backed! $11 for a USPCC deck shipped nowadays? YUP.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:50 pm**

Thanks for supporting us vasta41! We really appreciate it!

Cheers,
James

Posted: **Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:08 am**

Ooo printed by USPCC, traditionally cut w/ crushed stock I'm in.

Posted: **Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:15 am**

Thanks Trungbreezy! We appreciate your support.

If you got your hands on Dystopia, you'll know what Maidens will feel like. Dystopia's crush stock was just so surprising. They handle so well!

Cheers!

James,
Joker and the Thief

Posted: **Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:33 am**

sinjin7 wrote:So many questions: Can they run a smooth campaign? Will these be priced correctly? Can they provide reasonable shipping & fulfillment? Will these be blown out on Touch of Modern just as soon as they're finally produced?

From the preview/teaser pics, I can't tell if the faces have a white background, light-blue background, or both. I tend to avoid decks who's color on the background of the face cards fail to match the color of the border on the backs.

Pricing is great, but I am so torn on these. I got one, don't want to break my set from J&T but - the back is almost a "break" for me. It needs work.

Now, the other gotcha in my mind is that the Day of the Dead theme has been beaten to death at this point, even though I love some of them, this one is a "me, too" mostly.

As always your mileage and kilometers will vary, so don't take my thoughts as gospel until you judge yourself.

Posted: **Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:55 am**

Got the x2 early bird. Wish there was a x3 early bird pledge

Posted: **Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:09 am**

serubi wrote:Got the x2 early bird. Wish there was a x3 early bird pledge

Yep, only a dozen single Early Bird pledges left. Those go quickly!

Added the project trackers to the OP using the

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code / macro / shortcut.

"kickstarter" adds one "kicktraq" adds the other, but "kickup" does both at once.

Posted: **Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:03 pm**

Thanks for your support Mike and Serubi!

We appreciate your comments and feedback. We consider Maidens to be lightly inspired by Day of the Dead and decided we could weave our own story into the deck. We have tried to focus more on the mystical, paranormal aspects of energy, and how souls can transcend our world yet still reach out to us. Yes, ghostly, and yeah a little bit day of the dead haha. To each their own, but we're so glad that the response has been positive. Thank you so much again, guys!

Cheers,
James

Posted: **Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:48 pm**

Joker and the Thief wrote:Thanks for your support Mike and Serubi!

We appreciate your comments and feedback. We consider Maidens to be lightly inspired by Day of the Dead and decided we could weave our own story into the deck. We have tried to focus more on the mystical, paranormal aspects of energy, and how souls can transcend our world yet still reach out to us. Yes, ghostly, and yeah a little bit day of the dead haha. To each their own, but we're so glad that the response has been positive. Thank you so much again, guys!

Cheers,
James

We mostly vote with our wallet. I am a backer.

Posted: **Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:55 am**

Mike Ratledge wrote:
sinjin7 wrote:So many questions: Can they run a smooth campaign? Will these be priced correctly? Can they provide reasonable shipping & fulfillment? Will these be blown out on Touch of Modern just as soon as they're finally produced?

From the preview/teaser pics, I can't tell if the faces have a white background, light-blue background, or both. I tend to avoid decks who's color on the background of the face cards fail to match the color of the border on the backs.
Pricing is great, but I am so torn on these. I got one, don't want to break my set from J&T but - the back is almost a "break" for me. It needs work.

Now, the other gotcha in my mind is that the Day of the Dead theme has been beaten to death at this point, even though I love some of them, this one is a "me, too" mostly.

As always your mileage and kilometers will vary, so don't take my thoughts as gospel until you judge yourself.

Re: Bolded

IMO nothing beats Chris Ovdiyenko's Midnight Calaveras deck...

I just haven't been a fan of the Joker and the Thief designs since their first 3 decks (Blue, Gold, and Red).

Posted: **Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:46 pm**

Hey everyone!

Just thought we'd update you all and let you know that we've opened up a special 3 deck tier at early bird rates!

This also means that some backers have swapped their pledges and some spots in the lower early bird tier have opened up. If you were on the fence about jumping on board the Maidens campaign, here's your chance to get involved - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jo ... ying-cards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers,
James

Joker and the Thief Playing Card Co.

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:37 am**

Grabbed a 1 deck EB! Wasn't going to because I missed the EB and deck plus shipping was high in my opinion. Good luck!

Posted: **Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:19 pm**

A couple of other early birds have popped up, including for a two-deck pack, which I just pledged for. Thanks for the prompt!

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:41 pm**

Thanks for jumping on board guys! Just thought we'd remind everybody that we have a week to go and are currently sitting at 83% funding!

There are still plenty of 3 deck specials available, let's get this deck across the line and into your hands!

Pledge here - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jo ... ying-cards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers,
James
Joker and the Thief Playing Card Co.

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