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kevork wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:44 pm
He's serious about this part. I changed my pledge earlier today to add on items and my Afterlife and Resurrection decks disappeared. That was a rollercoaster of emotions to get them back.

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:30 pm

kevork wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:44 pm
He's serious about this part. I changed my pledge earlier today to add on items and my Afterlife and Resurrection decks disappeared. That was a rollercoaster of emotions to get them back.

yes that would have sucked and heck knows Ive done the 'alter your pledge' thing looking for rare decks A LOT earlier with this campaign (I'm good now)

hopefully throwing 1 deck into the shark pit doesnt cause more drama like the original release did.

PlayTheVillain wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:52 pm

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:30 pm

kevork wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:44 pm
He's serious about this part. I changed my pledge earlier today to add on items and my Afterlife and Resurrection decks disappeared. That was a rollercoaster of emotions to get them back.

yes that would have sucked and heck knows Ive done the 'alter your pledge' thing looking for rare decks A LOT earlier with this campaign (I'm good now)

hopefully throwing 1 deck into the shark pit doesnt cause more drama like the original release did.

Surprisingly not! Took almost an hour for someone to claim it lol

PlayTheVillain wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:38 pm

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:36 pm

PlayTheVillain wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:52 pm

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:30 pm

kevork wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:44 pm
He's serious about this part. I changed my pledge earlier today to add on items and my Afterlife and Resurrection decks disappeared. That was a rollercoaster of emotions to get them back.

6pm pst, not est


yes that would have sucked and heck knows Ive done the 'alter your pledge' thing looking for rare decks A LOT earlier with this campaign (I'm good now)

hopefully throwing 1 deck into the shark pit doesnt cause more drama like the original release did.

Surprisingly not! Took almost an hour for someone to claim it lol

? according to the post it shouldn't have even have gone up until 30min from now.

6pm pst, not est

PlayTheVillain wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:38 pm Oh ffs.

I should just Google things instead of trusting friends.

I knew I was behind an hour of pst not ahead an hour. Ffs.

Welp

I'm just gonna go by MST from now on and everyone else can translate to their own timezone

STLBluesNut wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:28 am

PlayTheVillain wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:38 pm Oh ffs.

I should just Google things instead of trusting friends.

I knew I was behind an hour of pst not ahead an hour. Ffs.

Welp

I'm just gonna go by MST from now on and everyone else can translate to their own timezone

lmao. i hate the timezone crap. if it isnt in one of the 4 US timezones i am lost.

Revelation Workshop wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:54 pm They just opened a pateron after one project. too fast for me

PlayTheVillain wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:05 am ...designed a modified traditional faced deck with a fan-favorite card back from a poll before SPIRITS...

STLBluesNut wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:28 am

PlayTheVillain wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:05 am ...designed a modified traditional faced deck with a fan-favorite card back from a poll before SPIRITS...

for me personally, this doesn't get me too excited. modified standard courts aren't really my jam but i havent seen them yet so they could be an outlier.

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:29 am Ben I want to be perfectly clear and say "I understand" but we have a saying at my job "perception is reality".

People here are REALLY skittish about KS producers or Patreons where the commitment to delivery on time is in doubt a lot have been burned.

I don't think anyone here would be adverse to you getting to the point where playing card art is your life. But its likely going going to (and you seem to understand it) that this is going to be a long road.
Giovanni from TWI said he was still working a real job not that long ago(year or two), and that man puts out about a deck a month on average and has a large following and has been successful for a LONG time.

Like I said during the campaign you have my trust now, don't misplace it you have a bright future ahead of you if you play your...proverbial and real...cards right.

PlayTheVillain wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:23 pm
At this point, I literally just have to get everything delivered. I have no clue how people can heck this up that badly if they're serious about it.

The only issues I can forsee is the production companies not following through, but they all have great track records and have been researched and vetted accordingly.

Everyone has their trust in Play The Villain, and the only thing I want to do is prove it to everyone that we are in this for the right reasons.

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:29 am Ben I want to be perfectly clear and say "I understand" but we have a saying at my job "perception is reality".

People here are REALLY skittish about KS producers or Patreons where the commitment to delivery on time is in doubt a lot have been burned.

I don't think anyone here would be adverse to you getting to the point where playing card art is your life. But its likely going going to (and you seem to understand it) that this is going to be a long road.
Giovanni from TWI said he was still working a real job not that long ago(year or two), and that man puts out about a deck a month on average and has a large following and has been successful for a LONG time.

Like I said during the campaign you have my trust now, don't misplace it you have a bright future ahead of you if you play your...proverbial and real...cards right.

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:50 pm

PlayTheVillain wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:23 pm
At this point, I literally just have to get everything delivered. I have no clue how people can heck this up that badly if they're serious about it.

The only issues I can forsee is the production companies not following through, but they all have great track records and have been researched and vetted accordingly.

Everyone has their trust in Play The Villain, and the only thing I want to do is prove it to everyone that we are in this for the right reasons.

Its a combination of a lot of things.

How many decks did you actually sell (you had what? 5 variations yourself) vs How many did you print? vs the final total you either chose (to sell later) or had to (minimum print runs) print, same with the other merchandise. Im sure some projects were in the hole before everything either was ordered or came in because they just focused on making prototype "cool things' and didnt do their homework on what it really would take to make them. This is how you end up with "pyramid scheme" campaigns where a 2nd effort is actually paying for the first to be completed, at best you do this once to get out of the hole and learn your lesson, at worse you end up in this cycle forever.

Shipping, figuring out how to package 100s or 1000s of orders of different sizes to safely get them to their destination, stack up the orders, get them boxed up, to the carrier, track them, and pay for it. Plus fix the inevitable issues with shipping. There's a good reason why established fulfillment houses like gamblers warehouse are still in business.

And those are just the things you can control. As you say you can have suppliers not deliver, or screw up an order (worse if you agreed to the screwup in writing at the order stage) or literal "act of god" covid, the war in Ukraine (and its effect on everything Russian) hurricanes.

Now try to juggle all those balls while running or delivering a second or third campaign or another business without dropping some.

Yeah..people screw it up, there's a number of threads about even people who have done it several times managing to get it very wrong.

You have to understand why people will only trust a company with no track record so much.

By all means work on your Ritual deck, perfect it, have it ready to go the week after the last package goes out, work with the community here and on your patreon to shape that campaign ONCE YOU START SHIPPING, have previews of it to include in the updates that you send out via KS, plant the seed so that people happily looking at spirit decks for the first time mark their calendar for ritual. Be ready...but don't be in a rush or early. Once you have done this a few times people will trust you (more, not everyone will).

Honeybee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:01 pm The name looks ordinary on Soul Collector - maybe change the text color

kevork wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:09 am I understand what Honeybee means. Almost makes me wonder what these would've looked like with no text on the front and indicating the version on the bottom, side, or top. I'm okay with the way it is though, as they've already been made.

PlayTheVillain wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:27 am

kevork wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:09 am I understand what Honeybee means. Almost makes me wonder what these would've looked like with no text on the front and indicating the version on the bottom, side, or top. I'm okay with the way it is though, as they've already been made.

The renders I made for the kickstarter had these designs, ya know? I think the white stands out and you can pick the decks out among others with similar colors with ease.

I Personally will be displaying these decks back facing outward, cause i think the back is a lot better looking lol

Honeybee wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:08 am Yes the tuck backs in the first pic look fantastic. Which is the more accurate pic - the first or the last, as they look quite different

After careful consideration and thorough testing, I have made the difficult decision to scrap the front lenticulars on the SPIRITS Decks. I understand that many of you were eagerly anticipating this feature, and I sincerely apologize for any disappointment or inconvenience this may cause.

After having the panels ready to be glued to the tucks, I decided to review the test panels again, and it became clear to me that the quality of the feature does not meet my standards, as you can see in the video above.

I refuse to compromise on the integrity and excellence of the product, and I would rather deliver a final product that I am truly proud of.

I want to express my deepest apologies for having to exclude this feature from the final product. It was not an easy decision, and I am genuinely sorry for any frustration or inconvenience it may cause.