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Bikefanatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:06 pm Since I'm analytical and a visual learner, I think the tiers are like this:

Silver Patrons : Deck A (2x)


Golden Patrons : Deck A (2x)
Deck B (2x)

Manic Patrons : Deck A (4x)
Deck B (4x)

2nd tier: $25/month “Silver Patrons”: You will be getting the above plus 2 copies of one of the year’s luxury decks printed in an exclusive foil or even stock color that won’t be available to non- patrons. For example, if Silk was to be printed in 2021, Silver Patrons would get 2 copies of the deck printed in Silver foil.

3rd tier: $45/month “Golden Patrons”: You will be getting all the above (1st and 2nd tiers) plus 2 copies of PATRONS playing cards, a deck that will be designed and produced exclusively for our Patrons.

4th tier: $65/month “Manic Patrons”: You will be getting all the above (1st and 2nd tiers) plus 4 copies of PATRONS playing cards.

Ice_Panda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:03 am I will clarify myself. Either way I am going Maniac and will be happy to do so! Brad makes a lot of sense so I must have read into it incorrectly

Bikefanatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:44 am

Ice_Panda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:03 am I will clarify myself. Either way I am going Maniac and will be happy to do so! Brad makes a lot of sense so I must have read into it incorrectly

It's Manic not Maniac which I was thinking too of "did he forget the 'a" in 'maniac'?

It now does look like Deck A (2x) Deck B (4x)

"When you confuse, you lose". Let's have Lotrek draw out the price chart.

Bradius wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:58 pm I think the way of understanding the tiers is that everyone participates at the $5 level, which is access to his special communication. Then each successive tier is $20 per month more, or $120 each year per deck. The $5 per month/$60 per year is for the initial Patreon tier, which is just information.

So,

1st Tier - Patron - Updates, information, etc (nothing "physical") $5
2nd Tier - Silver - 2x exclusive recolor - $20 plus basic tier or $120 per deck, plus Patron cost ($20 + $5)
3rd Tier - Gold - 2x exclusive recolor and 2x unique Patreon deck $20 more plus Silver which includes Patron tier cost - another $120 per additional deck ($20 + $20 + $5)
4th Tier - Manic - 2x exclusive recolor and 4x unique Patreon deck $20 more plus gold (which includes the silver and patron tier costs) or $120 per additional deck. ($20 + $20 + $20 + $5)

Again, I think it is important to add the prior tier rewards as part of the higher tier cost and the first tier does not contain a "physical" reward. That doesn't add to the cost of the decks in that sense, it is just an entry point to get decks, if that is your own interest. I think that also helps better understand Lotrek's conception of the cost for each tier and correctly valuing the decks that the value of $120 each if you will.

If you want more silver decks, then get two (or more) Patron accounts. However, you have to pay the $5 per month twice..that is the cost of simplification. As for me, I think Manic is enough....sorry Wolf. No Patreon account for you ... yet.

juxtaposed wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:27 am

Bikefanatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:44 am

Ice_Panda wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:03 am I will clarify myself. Either way I am going Maniac and will be happy to do so! Brad makes a lot of sense so I must have read into it incorrectly

It's Manic not Maniac which I was thinking too of "did he forget the 'a" in 'maniac'?

It now does look like Deck A (2x) Deck B (4x)

"When you confuse, you lose". Let's have Lotrek draw out the price chart.

its actually pretty clear from the start

"manic" = (1st & 2nd tier) plus 4 patron decks. which means 2+4. i don't see the need for more clarifications

the only thing that's confusing, is the tiers of games by EA and Ubisoft, and this patreon is FAR from it.

P.S. i hope it stays "manic" at the official patreon page.

Bikefanatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:03 pm Since this is my first Patreon, I'm going for the Manic tier so I can have my 8 decks.

Bradius wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:17 pm Lotrek, this hasn't been said, but will patrons get a guaranteed shot at your other decks, like the version of the deck in the Silver tier that will be available to non-patrons? Just curious for those of us that have slow fingers.... (finger challenged?)

bdawg923 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:31 am Will the link be posted here or sent through the newsletter?

badpete69 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:52 pm It's not 4 and 4 and its pretty clear. You get Tier 2 reward which is 2 decks and 4 Patrons decks which makes 6 decks at an average cost of $130 a deck. Gold level is $135 a deck average and silver is $150 per deck

Patreon charges VAT based on your location. It might get more per deck depending on where you live.