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Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:05 am
by flashcards
The King of Hearts is super creepy. I love it. At first I was shocked and thought it was mistake and her hand was covering her mouth. Then when I realized what it was, I got a chill. I agree that this is one of the more creative versions I have seen. One question; is the hand using her fingernail to cut her throat? (Never thought I'd be writing that sentence.) If so, perhaps the nail should be longer. (A nine inch nail? Stop it. Who's saying that? Hey, you with the hand over your mouth. What are you doing hereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...)

Sorry. Just really getting into the vibe of the cards. Great job.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:17 pm
by 52Ravens
scottbre wrote:with the less refined-looking black and red, this deck would be a no go for me, unfortunately.
Thanks for the feedback. I do like the light version of these designs but I wanted to step away from the original deck so that the two where sperate from one another, and I think that the easiest way to do that was to completely change the contrast approach. Be sure to check out the project once it goes live, you may be tempted :P
flashcards wrote: is the hand using her fingernail to cut her throat?
Yes and no :lol: The story built up in my head was that a spell has been cast upon her, the hands are wrapping around to hold her still, forcing her to cut her own neck with her fingernail. Once she is dead, the hands fade away with the spell and it leaves the impression that the witch slit her own throat. (Yeah I've over thought it and written the book in my head)

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:15 am
by 52Ravens
Hey!

Below is the number card example, click the image to make it larger. What do you guys think, standard layout or witch circle? :D

Thanks for any feedback

http://52ravens.com/forumimages/coven2numbers.jpg

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:25 am
by flashcards
I like the idea but you are going to have to add some real contrast for the pips and numbers. At first I thought these were the card backs. Only after zooming could I see the numbers in the corners and it took even longer to see the pips. Perhaps fade the background and really add contrast or a different color to the pips and numbers. As it is, it all blends together. Definitely a good concept however.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:40 am
by Kage X
flashcards wrote:At first I thought these were the card backs.
+1

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:06 am
by Harvonsgard
+2

I thought it was an uncut showing the backs first. If you don't crank up the contrats those will be horrible to play with.

Witch circle for me.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:46 pm
by MagikFingerz
Echoing the others on the contrast issue. I like the circular pip layout the best :)

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:55 pm
by BaconWise
MagikFingerz wrote:Echoing the others on the contrast issue. I like the circular pip layout the best :)
+1 - That circular layout is a real winner for me. Make the numbers and pips more visible against the dark background, and this will look amazing. Great update

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:45 am
by 52Ravens
Hey, I totally see what you are all saying.

Believe it or not, as a full-time designer, I am actually colour blind, only slightly (I don't see everything in black and white) but I fail the eye tests where you to have to see a number in a circle of dots :lol: So in my defence I thought this was only me!

I've boosted the contrast and made the navy background a shade darker, below is a comparison. I wouldn't want to go too far with this as it will start to lose the original style I wanted. Keep in mind that these are low resolution images so the details should be a little clearer in print in 300dpi as opposed to the 72dpi you are currently viewing.

Let me know what you think, thanks :)

http://52ravens.com/forumimages/coven210.jpg

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:09 am
by Harvonsgard
The right one is the updated version, right? Looks better and I do think it will be indeed better in print then now on the display. It's still risky though :lol: . Fingers crossed.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:34 pm
by justplaycards
I understand you not wanting to ruin your design, but I have to agree with everyone else. Even in the new version the contrast might not be enough to make them easy to use. I really like the actual design though.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:59 pm
by 52Ravens
Once more with feeling :D

The right one is the newest version. This is as dark as I dare, otherwise it may as well be black and red, but I think I can get away with this. Darker navy and dirt, more vibrant colours and a slightly stronger contrast. It's way better than it was, but I think this is the furthest I can push this without changing the colour scheme completely.

F*** it, let's do black and gold foil like everyone else :lol:

http://52ravens.com/forumimages/coven210v2.jpg

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:04 pm
by Harvonsgard
Read the eBay on crack thread; white and gold is the high selling shit atm... :lol: :lol:

In all seriousness though; it's way better than before.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:28 pm
by MagikFingerz
Just a thought: Not increasing (or even decreasing) the contrast of the blood around the edges may help with visibility of the indices. They're heavier in ink, so they overshadow the number a bit.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:30 am
by scottbre
I think it would look better if you faded everything except the numbers and pips quite a bit, so that the geometric patterns and the "blood spatter" around the edges are still visible but clearly in the background. It would add a lot more depth to the cards and also make them much easier to read.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:01 pm
by 52Ravens
Hey!

Stepping away from the number cards of a moment to share the back design, its been in the background of all the cards but this is it in all its full brightness. It's not going to win design of the year but it's on theme :lol:

http://52ravens.com/forumimages/coven2back.jpg

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:16 am
by Harvonsgard
Maybe it's just me but I read that ambigram as 69. :D
It's definitely a nice back design. I like it a lot.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:56 am
by hsbc
Harvonsgard wrote:69 ... nice
:lol:

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:28 am
by Harvonsgard
hsbc wrote:
Harvonsgard wrote:69 ... nice
:lol:
Nce indeed :lol: .

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:09 pm
by 52Ravens
Almost a year to the day that this feed was posted in . . . it was meant to be.

As a thank you, for those that have offered their helpful and constructive input, I'm posting the Kickstarter video here early.

I'm hoping that the project will be live in the next week, until then, enjoy the tease 8-)


Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:41 pm
by Harvonsgard
Best of success for the campaign.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:53 am
by justplaycards
That video is amazing... Well done. I am certainly in for a few of these Kirk. Can't wait.

Re: The Coven - Second Edition

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:41 pm
by brownsl
I have been waiting for these! Awesome video!