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Website now states it will be back Feb 20. There is also a thread at PCFwhere the artist is engaged and mentioned more:

Hey everyone - I had some conversations with you guys when I originally launched the 1910 Brew House deck on Kickstarter way back in 2014. I've finally gotten around to updating the entire project, finishing the design work and simplifying the project structure. There are now two completely unique decks that go hand in hand and the reward tiers will be extremely simple and hopefully most will view as affordable. I'll keep in touch with this thread, especially as the project launches to take any advice you guys have to offer. You can go check out a preview of the project at the link below. Really excited to have a chance at finally bringing this project to life. Launches February 20, 2017.

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Looks like this was moved to Feb 23rd. Also now officially approved for vintage Bicycle branding too.

I'm obsessed.

Hey everyone - I couldn't get into my old account so I made a new one. I'm the designer of the Brew House deck and just wanted to reach out on here and say thanks for any kind words that have been said. Also want to let anyone know to feel free to ask me any questions or send me any feedback, whether it's on here or elsewhere. The launch is today (Feb. 23) at 11:00 AM EST. The decks have come a long way since the original launch but I'll still be making improvements throughout the campaign and up until production. Really appreciate those of you who have been sharing the project and helping to get the word out!

Now live!

Backed! I REALLY hope this funds this time around. It's such a well designed deck in every aspect. And Bicycle branding for less than $10 (EB)!

vasta41 wrote:Backed! I REALLY hope this funds this time around. It's such a well designed deck in every aspect. And Bicycle branding for less than $10 (EB)!

+1 to that! Love the vintage Bicycle logo.

Yeah, this is one of the better Kickstarter decks. Excellent design!

serubi wrote:Yeah, this is one of the better Kickstarter decks. Excellent design!

RichK wrote:

vasta41 wrote:Backed! I REALLY hope this funds this time around. It's such a well designed deck in every aspect. And Bicycle branding for less than $10 (EB)!

+1 to that! Love the vintage Bicycle logo.

vasta41 wrote:Backed! I REALLY hope this funds this time around. It's such a well designed deck in every aspect. And Bicycle branding for less than $10 (EB)!

Appreciate all the kind words guys! Will quote my original post since it had to get approved so may have gotten lost.

dkroemer wrote:Hey everyone - I couldn't get into my old account so I made a new one. I'm the designer of the Brew House deck and just wanted to reach out on here and say thanks for any kind words that have been said. Also want to let anyone know to feel free to ask me any questions or send me any feedback, whether it's on here or elsewhere. The launch is today (Feb. 23) at 11:00 AM EST. The decks have come a long way since the original launch but I'll still be making improvements throughout the campaign and up until production. Really appreciate those of you who have been sharing the project and helping to get the word out!

Very nice decks. Good luck with the project.

Hi Daniel, glad you joinned the conversation here, it's pretty difficult on social media platforms.
I have a few questions, suggestions:
- Is the Bicycle branding compliant? has it been approved by USPCC? It seems to change quite a bit the real logo and they tend to be really strict about it. Not that I care too much, I don't mind unbranded decks, more room for the artist!
- I wish the decks back would be even more different. You use the "flag spade" in both decks; I think it fits well the Imperial red version, but could be replaced by something else on the original blue version. I'd love to have hops, for instance(I know they were there and removed...)
- I've seen the target date, before mid june... it's quite ambitious, specially for a first campaign. Don't mean to offend, but I suggest being more cautious with delivery dates as people usually are sensitive to those matters, whether the are happy to get their products earlier.
- last, I also suggest you add a add-ons table with one pair of decks up to six, with US and international prices. It's pretty much a standard and helps a lot backers. Usually, add-ons prices are lower than pledges, as the shipping costs are already covered by the original pledge.
Thanks

jsantafe wrote:Hi Daniel, glad you joinned the conversation here, it's pretty difficult on social media platforms.
I have a few questions, suggestions:
- Is the Bicycle branding compliant? has it been approved by USPCC? It seems to change quite a bit the real logo and they tend to be really strict about it. Not that I care too much, I don't mind unbranded decks, more room for the artist!
- I wish the decks back would be even more different. You use the "flag spade" in both decks; I think it fits well the Imperial red version, but could be replaced by something else on the original blue version. I'd love to have hops, for instance(I know they were there and removed...)
- I've seen the target date, before mid june... it's quite ambitious, specially for a first campaign. Don't mean to offend, but I suggest being more cautious with delivery dates as people usually are sensitive to those matters, whether the are happy to get their products earlier.
- last, I also suggest you add a add-ons table with one pair of decks up to six, with US and international prices. It's pretty much a standard and helps a lot backers. Usually, add-ons prices are lower than pledges, as the shipping costs are already covered by the original pledge.
Thanks

Hey I really appreciate all of that feedback.
- The Bicycle logo is a vintage design they used long ago and it has been approved by USPCC. Attached a reference to the original.
- I'll continue to improve the decks so I'll definitely keep that feedback in mind about the hops and spades. I did want to keep the decks related as a set so didn't want to pull them too far from each other.
- I understand the concern about the delivery date. I set it right about 3 months from the end date. As soon as the project ends I'll begin working with USPCC on getting artwork approved and their turnaround is 4-6 weeks once artwork is approved. I'll be dedicated to getting the rewards fulfilled as quickly as I can so although things can happen, the target delivery date shouldn't be an issue.
- I'll definitely do as you said and add a deck add-on section, that's great advice!

Much appreciated!

guru wrote:Very nice decks. Good luck with the project.

Appreciate that guru!

Also want to make a note here that I stay most active on Instagram, so if you're interested in following along and staying up to date daily, go give my page a follow!

Instagram.com/brewhouseplayingcards

Call me pessimistic but it doesn't look like this project will fund. AGAIN. This really stinks.

vasta41 wrote:Call me pessimistic but it doesn't look like this project will fund. AGAIN. This really stinks.

It's been two business days and you're calling it a failure? You're the ultimate pessimist!

dkroemer wrote:

vasta41 wrote:Call me pessimistic but it doesn't look like this project will fund. AGAIN. This really stinks.

It's been two business days and you're calling it a failure? You're the ultimate pessimist!

I am- I can't help it. [MURRAY] 50% funded in four days is very good. And I want this to succeed more than almost any other KS project. I just hope that all the other projects that launched in the past week don't overshadow this. And by that I mean I hope people save enough money to pledge for this project too!

dkroemer wrote: - I understand the concern about the delivery date. I set it right about 3 months from the end date. As soon as the project ends I'll begin working with USPCC on getting artwork approved and their turnaround is 4-6 weeks once artwork is approved. I'll be dedicated to getting the rewards fulfilled as quickly as I can so although things can happen, the target delivery date shouldn't be an issue.

Those are often famous last words. I think the savvy deck designers are the ones who estimate that if it will take 3 months to complete fulfillment, they'll tack on an additional 6 weeks to their delivery estimate on Kickstarter. This way, if things hit the fan and there are unforeseen production delays (and there almost always are), they have a nice cushion to avoid the wrath of impatient backers, and if they actually meet their original estimate, then they come off looking like a hero for delivering "early". I can never figure out why more people don't do this. . .

sinjin7 wrote:This way, if things hit the fan and there are unforeseen production delays (and there almost always are), they have a nice cushion to avoid the wrath of impatient backers, and if they actually meet their original estimate, then they come off looking like a hero for delivering "early". I can never figure out why more people don't do this. . .

+1.
The number of projects that have no issues or delays is approximately zero.

Therefore if you don't put some wiggle room into your forecasts you're either naive or trying to appear 'on top of everything' - which is the best sign that you're overconfident and will fail (... at the very least for on-time delivery).

sinjin7 wrote:

dkroemer wrote: - I understand the concern about the delivery date. I set it right about 3 months from the end date. As soon as the project ends I'll begin working with USPCC on getting artwork approved and their turnaround is 4-6 weeks once artwork is approved. I'll be dedicated to getting the rewards fulfilled as quickly as I can so although things can happen, the target delivery date shouldn't be an issue.

Those are often famous last words. I think the savvy deck designers are the ones who estimate that if it will take 3 months to complete fulfillment, they'll tack on an additional 6 weeks to their delivery estimate on Kickstarter. This way, if things hit the fan and there are unforeseen production delays (and there almost always are), they have a nice cushion to avoid the wrath of impatient backers, and if they actually meet their original estimate, then they come off looking like a hero for delivering "early". I can never figure out why more people don't do this. . .

Gareth wrote:

sinjin7 wrote:This way, if things hit the fan and there are unforeseen production delays (and there almost always are), they have a nice cushion to avoid the wrath of impatient backers, and if they actually meet their original estimate, then they come off looking like a hero for delivering "early". I can never figure out why more people don't do this. . .

+1.
The number of projects that have no issues or delays is approximately zero.

Therefore if you don't put some wiggle room into your forecasts you're either naive or trying to appear 'on top of everything' - which is the best sign that you're overconfident and will fail (... at the very least for on-time delivery).

I appreciate the insight guys, and I definitely understand the concern - I know you've all dealt with problem KS projects in the past. I think it's unfair to assume failure based on an ambitious delivery date. If I fail on delivery I can be scolded accordingly. I'd be surprised if a semi-ambitious delivery date would turn people away from the project - call me naive. Can't please everyone though.

vasta41 wrote:

dkroemer wrote:

vasta41 wrote:Call me pessimistic but it doesn't look like this project will fund. AGAIN. This really stinks.

It's been two business days and you're calling it a failure? You're the ultimate pessimist!

I am- I can't help it. [MURRAY] 50% funded in four days is very good. And I want this to succeed more than almost any other KS project. I just hope that all the other projects that launched in the past week don't overshadow this. And by that I mean I hope people save enough money to pledge for this project too!

I'm glad you said it... will only make me push harder! haha I appreciate the support

2 weeks and 40% more to go. Someone please prove me wrong. I would do anything to see these funded!

vasta41 wrote:2 weeks and 40% more to go. Someone please prove me wrong. I would do anything to see these funded!

I PM-ed Daniel when I added a signed brick with my EB discount and he said not to worry, it'll be produced one way or another. I really hope so!

Single Set EB now available - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/75 ... ying-cards

Only $5,000 more. I hope these get funded

I am going to drop my EB01 (single set) to upgrade my pledge in an effort to get this funded. Anyone want it? PM me in the next hour or so to coordinate.

vasta41 wrote:I am going to drop my EB01 (single set) to upgrade my pledge in an effort to get this funded. Anyone want it? PM me in the next hour or so to coordinate.

I added a half brick for gifts to my family, Dad gets the signed set, with my EB02 discount. This needs to fund.

RichK wrote:

vasta41 wrote:I am going to drop my EB01 (single set) to upgrade my pledge in an effort to get this funded. Anyone want it? PM me in the next hour or so to coordinate.

I added a half brick for gifts to my family, Dad gets the signed set, with my EB02 discount. This needs to fund.

I also upgraded for gifts. Pledge dropped. Go get it while it's still there!

4 days and 25% to go... maybe try cross promotions with other alcoholic themed campaigns?

Less than a day to go and sadly it looks like this won't fund. AGAIN.

vasta41 wrote:Less than a day to go and sadly it looks like this won't fund. AGAIN.

I'll be funding this deck on my own and going through with production despite the Kickstarter failures. Lesson learned: It's harder than I assumed to bring outsiders into the Kickstarter world. I've had a ton of interest from the beer world which is where I planned to bring in most of my backers, but the majority of people want things right now and care little to be involved in the creation process or wait 3 months to have it in hand. To be honest this will be a much better route anyway. It will eliminate the hard deadline and trying to please hundreds of backers week by week, and let me focus on getting the decks as great as they can be on my own timeline. I'll definitely be rewarding those who have supported the project on KS and will also be doing pre-orders for a lower price and signed option when the time comes. Appreciate all the support Vasta, it's been much appreciated!