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TheGentlemanWake wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:22 am Reminder, that Lorenzo will be joining Chris Moyer, Chris Hage and myself on Deal Me In podcast on thegentlemanwake yt channel at 6pm eastern tonight.

https://youtube.com/live/fuR3Ajk6c1M?feature=share

kevork wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:49 am

TheGentlemanWake wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:22 am Reminder, that Lorenzo will be joining Chris Moyer, Chris Hage and myself on Deal Me In podcast on thegentlemanwake yt channel at 6pm eastern tonight.

https://youtube.com/live/fuR3Ajk6c1M?feature=share

Will we be able to watch it retroactively? I'll be at work at that time.

Disenchanted_11 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:43 pm If I understood if correctly, no foil on any edition's faces, correct?

stretch goals based on funding %
150% goal: Windwatcher minideck
200% goal: upgrades for all Gibborim and Malakim: edge color!
250% goal: 6-deck custom box
300% goal: The Claw (find out if the stretch goal unlocks)
400% goal: upgrades for all Gibborim and Malakim: gilded edges!

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:25 pm

stretch goals based on funding %
150% goal: Windwatcher minideck
200% goal: upgrades for all Gibborim and Malakim: edge color!
250% goal: 6-deck custom box
300% goal: The Claw (find out if the stretch goal unlocks)
400% goal: upgrades for all Gibborim and Malakim: gilded edges!

Adamthinks wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:14 am I'm thrilled that he decided to print with WJPC for this. My one complaint for the previous version is that the texture on the cards made the more intricate foiling look muddy.

Oneiros88 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:57 am

Adamthinks wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:14 am I'm thrilled that he decided to print with WJPC for this. My one complaint for the previous version is that the texture on the cards made the more intricate foiling look muddy.

This is my pet peeve with creators choosing Cartamundi for foiled decks. That linen texture makes them look horrible…

alric wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:43 pm The linen finish is used to make the cards handle better. The fact that WJPCC is printing the cards makes me considerably less enthused about this project. There's no cold foiling on the cards, they will handle like shit, and now there will be a glaring inconsistency between Part 1 and Part 2 in terms of printing and handling. I don't think sacrificing all of the above is worth just a slight improvement of the print quality of the back design. Plus, most of you here buy decks just for the fancy tucks anyways. I was initially irked by the fact there is no pledge tier for a brick, you only have the options of 3, 6, or 18 for multi-deck pledges. But now that I know these will be printed by WJPCC, 3 is probably all I'll get.

I'm guessing the trend towards WJPCC has more to do with a better profit margin rather than quality.

alric wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:43 pm The linen finish is used to make the cards handle better. The fact that WJPCC is printing the cards makes me considerably less enthused about this project. There's no cold foiling on the cards, they will handle like shit, and now there will be a glaring inconsistency between Part 1 and Part 2 in terms of printing and handling. I don't think sacrificing all of the above is worth just a slight improvement of the print quality of the back design. Plus, most of you here buy decks just for the fancy tucks anyways. I was initially irked by the fact there is no pledge tier for a brick, you only have the options of 3, 6, or 18 for multi-deck pledges. But now that I know these will be printed by WJPCC, 3 is probably all I'll get.

I'm guessing the trend towards WJPCC has more to do with a better profit margin rather than quality.

alric wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:43 pm The linen finish is used to make the cards handle better. The fact that WJPC is printing the cards makes me considerably less enthused about this project. There's no cold foiling on the cards, they will handle like shit, and now there will be a glaring inconsistency between Part 1 and Part 2 in terms of printing and handling. I don't think sacrificing all of the above is worth just a slight improvement of the print quality of the back design. Plus, most of you here buy decks just for the fancy tucks anyways. I was initially irked by the fact there is no pledge tier for a brick, you only have the options of 3, 6, or 18 for multi-deck pledges. But now that I know these will be printed by WJPCC, 3 is probably all I'll get.

I'm guessing the trend towards WJPCC has more to do with a better profit margin rather than quality.

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:54 pm
Also I have no interest in fancy tucks, I want the cards in the box.

Adamthinks wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:02 pm

WJPC does cold foiling, and these decks will have it. Not sure why you think otherwise. Also, WJPCC decks handle very well. And since the texture on their cards is less pronounced, the foiling will look better than it did with Cartamundi. Cartamundi makes great normal printed cards. They suck at foiling though.

CCwonder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:03 pm

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:54 pm
Also I have no interest in fancy tucks, I want the cards in the box.

well said although I think this part is a bit disingenuous. You would be just as happy with plain white tucks?

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:09 pm

CCwonder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:03 pm

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:54 pm
Also I have no interest in fancy tucks, I want the cards in the box.

well said although I think this part is a bit disingenuous. You would be just as happy with plain white tucks?

Ive used that exact phrase in the past...yes actually.

Also I just pulled my eoto1 deck and compared it to the wind watcher (WJPC) from this campaign (Patreon backers already have the first 630 copies). if anything the WJPC pip card I compared was more clear and there was little to dislike from the print quality of either. I dont do handling so not really going to rate them on that.

CCwonder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:08 pm

Adamthinks wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:02 pm

WJPC does cold foiling, and these decks will have it. Not sure why you think otherwise. Also, WJPCC decks handle very well. And since the texture on their cards is less pronounced, the foiling will look better than it did with Cartamundi. Cartamundi makes great normal printed cards. They suck at foiling though.

Cartamundi shows evidence of nice foil work on decks and WJPC has some decks with poor foiling and vice versa. I missed the part about WJPCC decks handling like shit and don't agree with that statement. The linen texture being more prominent on Cartamundi is debatable. I think it's WJPC that is more pronounced. Which deck(s) will have foil work besides the Nephilim?

Adamthinks wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:12 pm

CCwonder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:08 pm

Adamthinks wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:02 pm

WJPC does cold foiling, and these decks will have it. Not sure why you think otherwise. Also, WJPCC decks handle very well. And since the texture on their cards is less pronounced, the foiling will look better than it did with Cartamundi. Cartamundi makes great normal printed cards. They suck at foiling though.

Cartamundi shows evidence of nice foil work on decks and WJPC has some decks with poor foiling and vice versa. I missed the part about WJPCC decks handling like shit and don't agree with that statement. The linen texture being more prominent on Cartamundi is debatable. I think it's WJPC that is more pronounced. Which deck(s) will have foil work besides the Nephilim?

All 3 decks are foiled.

CCwonder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:12 pm Which WJPC WindWatcher are you comparing with? The mini? Are there any pics up of that yet that aren't renders?