NOW LIVE: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Find out about the latest and greatest playing cards hitting the market.
User avatar
STLBluesNut
Member
Member
Posts: 2876
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:10 pm
Has thanked: 1396 times
Been thanked: 1016 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by STLBluesNut »

davegk wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:46 am
To be clear, this tuckbox will be on black matte paper with 3 exterior foil colors (red/white/black) and red foil interior pattern. This is why the tuck art only has red/black/white coloring. It will also include a numbered custom-shaped red metallic sticker (similar to the ones used on the Stories decks but slightly different placement). Retail pricing is $20/deck and they'll be available on Kickstarter at $15 each.
oh nice! i looked through this thread for tuck info. sorry if i missed it.
User avatar
PaulF
Member
Member
Posts: 148
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:56 pm
White Whale: KWP Federal 52 Legacy
Decks Owned: 1900
Location: Southern California, USA
Has thanked: 122 times
Been thanked: 161 times
Contact:

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by PaulF »

Hi,

Everything looks great to me. I personally like the collectors box. The card back with the blue added looks great. The courts are sensational. I personally like the tuck having imagined the foiling and embossing added. Will the cards, front and/or back be foiled?

When are you planning to launch this campaign?

Thanks,

Paul
User avatar
STLBluesNut
Member
Member
Posts: 2876
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:10 pm
Has thanked: 1396 times
Been thanked: 1016 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by STLBluesNut »

PiazzaDelivery wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:40 pm Guys, I'm curious; does ANYONE apart from those who buy unfolded tucks care at all about what is printed on the inside of a tuck case? Because it does not make a smidgen of difference to me.
i wouldnt not buy because there is nothing on the inside of the tuck but i do feel it nice when it is there. i like the attention to detail. after having so many ''luxury'' decks with interior printing, if a premium deck does not have it, it looks plain. by premium or luxury i mean a deck that already has matte stock, embossing, foil, etc. especially, if they are charging about the same price as another deck with interior printing. if it has those features and not interior printing i just feel like it was missed or too lazy to do it. i wouldnt pass on a deck for not having it nor would i buy a deck just because it has it.
User avatar
davegk
✔ VERIFIED Designer
✔ VERIFIED Designer
Posts: 473
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:01 am
Location: Oakland, CA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 307 times
Contact:

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by davegk »

PaulF wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:58 pm Hi,

Everything looks great to me. I personally like the collectors box. The card back with the blue added looks great. The courts are sensational. I personally like the tuck having imagined the foiling and embossing added. Will the cards, front and/or back be foiled?

When are you planning to launch this campaign?

Thanks,

Paul
Exact launch date TBA but you can add your name to the invite list here: http://alicecards.com
No foiling on the cards but the jumbo deck will include red gilded edges.
David Goldklang, Product Designer
http://davidgoldklang.com
http://www.vandacards.com
User avatar
davegk
✔ VERIFIED Designer
✔ VERIFIED Designer
Posts: 473
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:01 am
Location: Oakland, CA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 307 times
Contact:

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by davegk »

And here's the full court...
FullCourt.jpg
David Goldklang, Product Designer
http://davidgoldklang.com
http://www.vandacards.com
User avatar
kevork
Member
Member
Posts: 2926
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:54 am
Collector: Yes
White Whale: NPCCD 17 Amethyst + Prototypes
Decks Owned: 1000
Location: California
Has thanked: 2924 times
Been thanked: 3917 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by kevork »

The QoD looks relatively smaller to the point where it's obvious to me, maybe because it's surrounded by other courts.
User avatar
davegk
✔ VERIFIED Designer
✔ VERIFIED Designer
Posts: 473
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:01 am
Location: Oakland, CA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 307 times
Contact:

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by davegk »

kevork wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:33 pm The QoD looks relatively smaller to the point where it's obvious to me, maybe because it's surrounded by other courts.
yeah, I noticed that too...I may make some minor adjustments to sizing on some of these now that they're all in place
David Goldklang, Product Designer
http://davidgoldklang.com
http://www.vandacards.com
User avatar
Harvonsgard
Member
Member
Posts: 9732
Joined: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:53 am
Cardist: Yes
Player: Yes
White Whale: Your Mami
Decks Owned: 420
Location: Paro
Has thanked: 1792 times
Been thanked: 4559 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Harvonsgard »

Lovely detail with the JoS clearly and the other courts more subtle being one-way. The KoD might be one of my favorite cards to date. The subtle banners for the character names is something well designed, too. I like that they're not too dominant.
You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that’s being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world.

avatar credit: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔄𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔬𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔠𝔢𝔯 by Gands the Scholar @g_a_n_d_s_

rousselle wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:52 pmI very much want this in my collection, but at long last... I have to stop the insanity.
User avatar
davegk
✔ VERIFIED Designer
✔ VERIFIED Designer
Posts: 473
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:01 am
Location: Oakland, CA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 307 times
Contact:

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by davegk »

Harvonsgard wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:00 am Lovely detail with the JoS clearly and the other courts more subtle being one-way. The KoD might be one of my favorite cards to date. The subtle banners for the character names is something well designed, too. I like that they're not too dominant.
Fun fact: all 12 courts are one way…see if you can spot the differences ;)
David Goldklang, Product Designer
http://davidgoldklang.com
http://www.vandacards.com
User avatar
Harvonsgard
Member
Member
Posts: 9732
Joined: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:53 am
Cardist: Yes
Player: Yes
White Whale: Your Mami
Decks Owned: 420
Location: Paro
Has thanked: 1792 times
Been thanked: 4559 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Harvonsgard »

Yah, searching for the differences was fun indeed. The difference at the Hater card might be the funniest to me. KoD I didn't found yet though. The many arms confuse me, haha.
You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that’s being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world.

avatar credit: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔄𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔬𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔠𝔢𝔯 by Gands the Scholar @g_a_n_d_s_

rousselle wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:52 pmI very much want this in my collection, but at long last... I have to stop the insanity.
User avatar
Timmargh
Member
Member
Posts: 1534
Joined: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:41 pm
Collector: Yes
Player: Yes
White Whale: Cartes Indiennes green back
Location: Gloucester, UK
Has thanked: 1501 times
Been thanked: 1260 times
Contact:

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Timmargh »

Harvonsgard wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:05 am Yah, searching for the differences was fun indeed. The difference at the Hater card might be the funniest to me. KoD I didn't found yet though. The many arms confuse me, haha.
The eyes in the lower version have orange rings in the iris, but that's all I can spot.
User avatar
Harvonsgard
Member
Member
Posts: 9732
Joined: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:53 am
Cardist: Yes
Player: Yes
White Whale: Your Mami
Decks Owned: 420
Location: Paro
Has thanked: 1792 times
Been thanked: 4559 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Harvonsgard »

Indeed, that must be the difference.
You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that’s being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world.

avatar credit: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔄𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔬𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔠𝔢𝔯 by Gands the Scholar @g_a_n_d_s_

rousselle wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:52 pmI very much want this in my collection, but at long last... I have to stop the insanity.
User avatar
GandalfPC
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4703
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:01 pm
Cardist: Yes
Collector: Yes
Player: Yes
Magician: Yes
White Whale: Ambergris
Decks Owned: 1700
Location: New Mexico
Has thanked: 7545 times
Been thanked: 4375 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by GandalfPC »

Both of these (right side up and upside down) have eyes facing left. Wand of course also different.

IMG_6813.jpeg
Hunting Karl Gerich and Elaine Lewis

My collection and tradelist: http://gandalfpc.great-site.net
User avatar
Harvonsgard
Member
Member
Posts: 9732
Joined: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:53 am
Cardist: Yes
Player: Yes
White Whale: Your Mami
Decks Owned: 420
Location: Paro
Has thanked: 1792 times
Been thanked: 4559 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Harvonsgard »

I wonder what he did with that wand, hue hue hue.
You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that’s being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world.

avatar credit: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔄𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔬𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔠𝔢𝔯 by Gands the Scholar @g_a_n_d_s_

rousselle wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:52 pmI very much want this in my collection, but at long last... I have to stop the insanity.
User avatar
davegk
✔ VERIFIED Designer
✔ VERIFIED Designer
Posts: 473
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:01 am
Location: Oakland, CA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 307 times
Contact:

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by davegk »

More fun things...

Considering 2 options for designs for the aces:
Aces.jpg
and playing with more options for the back design
- color gradient
- gold metallic (this is representing metallic gold pantone ink)
- gray subtle
Backs.jpg
David Goldklang, Product Designer
http://davidgoldklang.com
http://www.vandacards.com
User avatar
Fenrir
Member
Member
Posts: 551
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:10 pm
Collector: Yes
Has thanked: 311 times
Been thanked: 282 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Fenrir »

The colour gradient is still my favourite when it comes to back designs. It just feels so fitting for the theme.

Regarding the aces, I can’t say I like either, it doesn’t feel whimsical enough to match the feel of the rest of the deck. If I had to pick one as is, it would be the second pictures with the lines.
User avatar
GandalfPC
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4703
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:01 pm
Cardist: Yes
Collector: Yes
Player: Yes
Magician: Yes
White Whale: Ambergris
Decks Owned: 1700
Location: New Mexico
Has thanked: 7545 times
Been thanked: 4375 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by GandalfPC »

the second ace certainly fits better with the courts - I favor the lines as well
Hunting Karl Gerich and Elaine Lewis

My collection and tradelist: http://gandalfpc.great-site.net
User avatar
hsbc
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 6071
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:10 pm
Cardist: Yes
Collector: Yes
Player: Yes
White Whale: Grid 1 LE
Decks Owned: 1500
Location: ATL
Has thanked: 9592 times
Been thanked: 6621 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by hsbc »

davegk wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:25 pm Heh, okay okay...here's a peek at the next two in the works
I get that you're going for books that are public domain and popular, but I wish you were doing books that hadn't been done! I was hoping to pick up one of your cool-looking book case things on a future project, but I am lukewarm at best about Oz and Alice and don't care much for Peter Pan at all

That's also why I have none of Elettra Deganello's Pinocchio decks, I actively dislike the story :lol: I also think we have enough Greek/Roman decks too but I'm getting off track here :lol:
P52DCIGUCr/m/52+J
User avatar
Honeybee
Member
Member
Posts: 1821
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:07 am
Collector: Yes
White Whale: Cactus Standards Midnight
Decks Owned: 200
Location: Australia
Has thanked: 2730 times
Been thanked: 823 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Honeybee »

Afraid that I too do not like either A (although oblong matches courts) and I like the Gold back best
KoD - my initials, no wonder I grew up a lover of playing cards
Avatar - Honeybee (No.15+17) Tuck pic by Randy Butterfield for PM
User avatar
Honeybee
Member
Member
Posts: 1821
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:07 am
Collector: Yes
White Whale: Cactus Standards Midnight
Decks Owned: 200
Location: Australia
Has thanked: 2730 times
Been thanked: 823 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Honeybee »

hsbc wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:28 pm
davegk wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:25 pm Heh, okay okay...here's a peek at the next two in the works
I get that you're going for books that are public domain and popular, but I wish you were doing books that hadn't been done! I was hoping to pick up one of your cool-looking book case things on a future project, but I am lukewarm at best about Oz and Alice and don't care much for Peter Pan at all

That's also why I have none of Elettra Deganello's Pinocchio decks, I actively dislike the story :lol: I also think we have enough Greek/Roman decks too but I'm getting off track here :lol:
I pretty much concur with hsbc. I have a couple of copies of Alice for Tenniel's illustrations - a colour and a B&W. I have over a dozen The Wind in the Willows from various illustrators. Not hard to guess which story I prefer. I would be purchasing your cards obviously for the artwork. Just like with Alice, I have an annotated Peter Pan from the same publishers (which shows you how famous illustrators over the decades have illustrated it) but I don't think I have opened it since I bought it more than a decade ago. I have no Pinocchio. One of my careers was a childrens librarian - I love illustrations
Selecting which titles are commercially viable for decks has to be tricky. Obviously best to be popular/well known - Grimm, Andersen, Aesop?
KoD - my initials, no wonder I grew up a lover of playing cards
Avatar - Honeybee (No.15+17) Tuck pic by Randy Butterfield for PM
User avatar
Harvonsgard
Member
Member
Posts: 9732
Joined: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:53 am
Cardist: Yes
Player: Yes
White Whale: Your Mami
Decks Owned: 420
Location: Paro
Has thanked: 1792 times
Been thanked: 4559 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Harvonsgard »

Honeybee wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:32 pm Afraid that I too do not like either A (although oblong matches courts) and I like the Gold back best
My thoughts exactly.
You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that’s being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world.

avatar credit: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔄𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔬𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔠𝔢𝔯 by Gands the Scholar @g_a_n_d_s_

rousselle wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:52 pmI very much want this in my collection, but at long last... I have to stop the insanity.
User avatar
davegk
✔ VERIFIED Designer
✔ VERIFIED Designer
Posts: 473
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:01 am
Location: Oakland, CA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 307 times
Contact:

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by davegk »

Man, tough crowd!

Anyway, moving forward...
One more variant on the back design using metallic silver ink

Agreed that the aces with pattern background and rays makes the most sense for consistency with the rest of the deck. Here are three of them (ace of spades coming still...)
Aces.jpg
David Goldklang, Product Designer
http://davidgoldklang.com
http://www.vandacards.com
User avatar
Fenrir
Member
Member
Posts: 551
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:10 pm
Collector: Yes
Has thanked: 311 times
Been thanked: 282 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Fenrir »

I know it’s a tough crowd but you wanted feedback and hopefully are getting it.

I love most everything I’m seeing except the aces. They don’t seem to fit the theme well and feel disconnected from the rest of the deck. It’s just basically an Alice item on a heart, club or diamond. I think there’s room to actually integrate these whacky characters into the aces themselves but that’s just my opinion.
User avatar
GandalfPC
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4703
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:01 pm
Cardist: Yes
Collector: Yes
Player: Yes
Magician: Yes
White Whale: Ambergris
Decks Owned: 1700
Location: New Mexico
Has thanked: 7545 times
Been thanked: 4375 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by GandalfPC »

perhaps, and you might really hate me for this one - topiary aces

might just be me that holds that association to Alice
Hunting Karl Gerich and Elaine Lewis

My collection and tradelist: http://gandalfpc.great-site.net
jasonx73it
Member
Member
Posts: 126
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:01 am
Collector: Yes
White Whale: Blue Golden Oath
Location: Italy
Has thanked: 107 times
Been thanked: 138 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by jasonx73it »

GandalfPC wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:26 am perhaps, and you might really hate me for this one - topiary aces

might just be me that holds that association to Alice
That is a great idead
User avatar
kevork
Member
Member
Posts: 2926
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:54 am
Collector: Yes
White Whale: NPCCD 17 Amethyst + Prototypes
Decks Owned: 1000
Location: California
Has thanked: 2924 times
Been thanked: 3917 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by kevork »

The Fry's Electronics store next to me was Alice in Wonderland themed. I wish it was still open. Loved going there as kid. The topiary theme instantly took me back.

https://thelosangelesbeat.com/2014/07/f ... ing-glass/

https://images.google.com/search?q=frys ... wonderland
User avatar
davegk
✔ VERIFIED Designer
✔ VERIFIED Designer
Posts: 473
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:01 am
Location: Oakland, CA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 307 times
Contact:

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by davegk »

Again, thanks for the suggestion—the topiary idea is quite interesting, however there are quite a few different visual elements in the deck and I'm trying to create some continuity between the different elements throughout. I think the aces actually do this quite well currently.

A few more fun illustrations in the extra cards...
Extras.jpg
David Goldklang, Product Designer
http://davidgoldklang.com
http://www.vandacards.com
User avatar
Honeybee
Member
Member
Posts: 1821
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:07 am
Collector: Yes
White Whale: Cactus Standards Midnight
Decks Owned: 200
Location: Australia
Has thanked: 2730 times
Been thanked: 823 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Honeybee »

I think the aces actually do this quite well currently.
But you are the only one who thinks so. LOL. They look very ordinary
I think it is because of the background. The addition of the background helped the Courts because some felt there was too much white space but it does nothing for the Aces
We are a tough crowd because there is so much on offer for our $ and we cannot buy everything so for most of us the decks and tuck have to be near on perfect or else we will just wait and see what comes out next week.
KoD - my initials, no wonder I grew up a lover of playing cards
Avatar - Honeybee (No.15+17) Tuck pic by Randy Butterfield for PM
User avatar
Fenrir
Member
Member
Posts: 551
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:10 pm
Collector: Yes
Has thanked: 311 times
Been thanked: 282 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Fenrir »

I agree with Honeybee. I don’t see the connection. Especially when you look at how great the courts, jokers and artist card are. The aces do not feel like they belong. They might have an overall connection to the theme but don’t feel like they fit.

Just my opinion.
User avatar
Sir Toddalot
Member
Member
Posts: 233
Joined: Sat May 01, 2021 9:53 pm
Cardist: Yes
Collector: Yes
White Whale: Delirium Signature Edition
Has thanked: 242 times
Been thanked: 213 times

Re: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Vanda Artists / Bob Case)

Unread post by Sir Toddalot »

I guess I’ll admit I like the aces, since I seem to be the only one.
“An open mind is like to an open wound, vulnerable to poison. Liable to fester. Apt to give its owner only pain.”

-Sand Dan Glokta, The First Law
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Magisterrene and 11 guests