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ty man i understand my faults:)

Well well well, this seems to have settled well, I'm happy both sides have been able to somewhat come closer thanks to empathy and willingness. Human nature has so much potential for good and beauty. Let's all enjoy our weekend now! (for those who can)

I'm rambling again, ignore me.

NemesisFactoryCards wrote:

OVSUB wrote:Reading the KS creator's responses on this thread really make me want to rescind my pledge. They look nice and I'm giving him/her a chance but it seems like they're way too aggressive. I hope NemesisFactoryCards will read this and realize how they come off like to a new backer.

I understand having pride and joy in both your works and creations but lashing out at people giving feedback seems like a weak/low thing to do. All you need to do is just accept that there are people who had bad-worse experiences and promise that you will do better(you also have to deliver on those promises).

I'm sorry OVSUB, im very sorry for your canceled but trust me i dont want to be aggressive, just a little angry because im honest and hear some words that i read here, hurts me.
Hope you change your idea and sorry if I seemed what I am not, and sorry for my bad english, many times i have difficulty expressing my thoughts.
claude

I have not canceled, seeing your responses show that you are a bit arrogant, but it being out of pride of your work I won't fault you. Seeing that you are trying to fix things with the community give me reason to stay on this ship that is your KS. I look forwards to your project, don't disappoint and prove me right to have backed your project.

Cheers and good luck, you'll need it building up goodwill after your old gaff will take time but I believe you are trying to fix old mistakes.

OVSUB Count on it!! and thanks for your trust ... we are so close to the goal !!!

Over 10k raised!!we are so close to the goal!!!thanks to all!

NemesisFactoryCards wrote: Hi Jocu, I see that you are Italian too, thank you for your feedback, but I am not telling the story of the world witch hunt, let alone I am talking about Wicca or other beliefs, I am telling the story of Triora and in the latter 5 years I have done nothing but study, document and talk to people, especially with professors and teachers of esotericism and parapsychology

IT IS NOT THE STORY OF THE WITCHWORK IN GENERAL, BUT IT IS THE STORY OF TRIORA.
I am not creating any confusion, I am simply telling something you may not know.

It is clearly written in the explanation, and in the history of Triora the Devil is a predominant figure, Cerberus the guardian of the underworld is present in the coat of arms this should make you understand how much this figure is present in their beliefs
Having said that, I wish you luck in your future tarot work and in-depth studies.
Thanks for your advice you are absolutely right, the end buyer is always right, in fact I have always acted for the sake of my backers and will always continue to do so. Thanks again

Actually I’m English, but I live in Italy

And that may be the case but as an English teacher I feel the need to point out that by using only the present tense and referring to ‘witches on the Sabbat’ and not mentioning the story, it really comes off as a claim against all witches past and present. It should be made clear that it’s ‘according to the legend/accusations against the women’ which, lets be honest, were likely without evidence like this in Salem.

If you edit this to mention that ‘according to the legend of Triora’ and change it to the past tense you will get a lot more of that crowd supporting your project. Especially as you’ve used the present-day neopagan and Wiccan wheel of the year as your back design, an 18th century British invention and symbol which certainly does not have antique origins and is based on Celtic mythology. This wheel practically belongs to Wicca and Celtic paganism so it seems very much the crowd you’re going for and I’m sure that it’s not been done before so is definitely not an audience you want to offend.

Great story though and great idea for a project. The local history across Italy is awesome and there are thousands of great stories here!

thanks for the advice Jocu, I hope that in history I have not made too many grammatical errors, my english is terrible i know ) However you are right there are pagan elements in this story, think that the main church of the city was built on the ruins of a pagan fanum and the citizens themselves use the calendar you see on the backs of the cards for their events and rituals. You are right even when you say that there is no evidence of the presence of the devil, but the belief and in any case people have had it (as I, moreover, in my travels and in my studies I was able to understand and see for myself certain things and certain behaviors) . You know I think I have not offended anyone because since I talked about this project, they also thanked the Municipality of Triora for the correctness of their history and for giving the correct identity to the women of Triora. The Belladonna deck is the point of view of a part of the people, the Stramonium deck represents the other part of the people, the inquisitors and their beliefs ... that's what I wanted to represent!
Thanks anyway really for giving me the opportunity to clarify these things and I really hope to see you among my backers before the end of the project, so you can

NemesisFactoryCards wrote:thanks for the advice Jocu, I hope that in history I have not made too many grammatical errors, my english is terrible i know ) However you are right there are pagan elements in this story, think that the main church of the city was built on the ruins of a pagan fanum and the citizens themselves use the calendar you see on the backs of the cards for their events and rituals. You are right even when you say that there is no evidence of the presence of the devil, but the belief and in any case people have had it (as I, moreover, in my travels and in my studies I was able to understand and see for myself certain things and certain behaviors) . You know I think I have not offended anyone because since I talked about this project, they also thanked the Municipality of Triora for the correctness of their history and for giving the correct identity to the women of Triora. The Belladonna deck is the point of view of a part of the people, the Stramonium deck represents the other part of the people, the inquisitors and their beliefs ... that's what I wanted to represent!
Thanks anyway really for giving me the opportunity to clarify these things and I really hope to see you among my backers before the end of the project, so you can

Don’t be silly your English is excellent!

Good luck with the rest of the project.

i'm really close to the goal to this my second project TRIORA, just only 3k left for FUNDED"
If anyone want support me i appreciated:
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thank you
Claude

I was looking at the project on Kick and I really like the graphics. Then I see that you are Italian like me. I am a neophyte too in this sector of collecting, but I like to collect decks that have a story behind you and yours seems like a good story to know. I do not deny that I am a little restrained by your old project. I still have time to think about the support of your project

Ciao ti rispondo prima in italiano cosi sono sicuro di farmi capire bene!Ti ringrazio per i complimenti, si i miei lavori devono sempre avere storie dietro, non mi piace creare un qualcosa di puramente visivo fine a se stesso. Mi piace studiare parecchio e confrontarmi con le persone, come tu puoi vedere che ho fatto in questo forum, e la prima volta ho deciso di annullare il mio progetto proprio perche confrontandomi qui tutti erano concordi nel dire che Enuma potesse essere migliorato, cosi ho fatto nei successivi 4 mesi per poi lanciarlo e fondarlo con successo!.
Non so perche tu sia frenato dal mio precedente lavoro, ho avuto un problema ed ho fatto di tutto per risolverlo al meglio, ma rispetto ovviamente il tuo pensiero e spero di vederti nel mio progetto al più presto come backer. grazie ancora per le tue parole..apprezzo davvero!!
Hi I answer you first in Italian so I'm sure to make myself understood! Thank you for the compliments, yes my works must always have stories behind them, I don't like creating something purely visual as an end in itself. I like to study a lot and compare myself with people, as you can see that I did in this forum, and the first time I decided to cancel my project precisely because comparing myself here everyone agreed that Enuma could be improved, so I did in the following 4 months to then launch and found it successfully !.
I don't know why you are slowed down by my previous job, I had a problem and I did everything to solve it in the best way, but obviously I respect your thoughts and I hope to see you in my project as a backer as soon as possible. thanks again for your words..I really appreciate it !!

NemesisFactoryCards wrote:Ciao ti rispondo prima in italiano cosi sono sicuro di farmi capire bene!Ti ringrazio per i complimenti, si i miei lavori devono sempre avere storie dietro, non mi piace creare un qualcosa di puramente visivo fine a se stesso. Mi piace studiare parecchio e confrontarmi con le persone, come tu puoi vedere che ho fatto in questo forum, e la prima volta ho deciso di annullare il mio progetto proprio perche confrontandomi qui tutti erano concordi nel dire che Enuma potesse essere migliorato, cosi ho fatto nei successivi 4 mesi per poi lanciarlo e fondarlo con successo!.
Non so perche tu sia frenato dal mio precedente lavoro, ho avuto un problema ed ho fatto di tutto per risolverlo al meglio, ma rispetto ovviamente il tuo pensiero e spero di vederti nel mio progetto al più presto come backer. grazie ancora per le tue parole..apprezzo davvero!!
Hi I answer you first in Italian so I'm sure to make myself understood! Thank you for the compliments, yes my works must always have stories behind them, I don't like creating something purely visual as an end in itself. I like to study a lot and compare myself with people, as you can see that I did in this forum, and the first time I decided to cancel my project precisely because comparing myself here everyone agreed that Enuma could be improved, so I did in the following 4 months to then launch and found it successfully !.
I don't know why you are slowed down by my previous job, I had a problem and I did everything to solve it in the best way, but obviously I respect your thoughts and I hope to see you in my project as a backer as soon as possible. thanks again for your words..I really appreciate it !!

Ti ringrazio per avermi risposto. Ci mancherebbe non ho detto che non hai risolto i problemi. Sono frenato perchè comunque voglio vedere come cresce il mazzo finale.

I thank you for replying. We'll miss you, I didn't say you didn't solve the problems. I am slow because I want to see how the final deck grows.

Parlando con Legends che stamperà i miei mazzi mi hanno detto che l'hotfoil sui dorsi è particolarmente adatto a sfondi neri e rossi perche risalta moltissimo, io non vedo l'ora di vedere il risultato finale, senza contare poi quelle stesse scene dei dorsi stampate in embossing/foil sulla scatola, sarà sicuramente un effetto incredibile.
Grazie ancora!
Talking to Legends who printed my deck he say Hotfoil in the backs is particulary adaptive on black & red , because have great impact, so cant wait to see final proof, also these scene in embossing/foil on the tuckbox it will surely be an incredible effect.
Thanks again!

FYI, a forum rule is that a post that is not in English needs to include an English translation.

brownsl wrote:FYI, a forum rule is that a post that is not in English needs to include an English translation.

Wee wee.

brownsl wrote:FYI, a forum rule is that a post that is not in English needs to include an English translation.

sorry i provide to correct!

Is it just me or are there an unusually large percentage of awesome Italian artists in the playing card world?

Man, Michelangelo Buonarroti, Leonardo da vinci, Caravaggio, Raffaello Sanzio.....Italy is the place of artists!! )))), anyway , yes many italian artist join this "market" and i ever support other italian artists that i was know in playing cards!

TRIORA PROJECT FUNDED TODAY!!!10 DAYS REMAIN FOR UNLOCK OTHER STRETCH GOALS!!THANKS TO ALL OF YOU MEMBER OF UC FORUM, FOR PLEDGED AND ALSO FOR ADVICES.Claude

Congratz Claude!

Thanks my friend!!!;)

Claude was so excited he broke Kickstarter.

I understand excitement but I'll never be able to understand caps lock...

And I will never understand those that get upset over caps lock lol.

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STLBluesNut wrote:And I will never understand those that get upset over caps lock lol.

Because in computer/text parlance, it is yelling. I don't ever call people on it, just like I don't call people out who talk in "133t speak" or texting shorthand. I just don't reply to their comments or questions.

kem-collector wrote:

STLBluesNut wrote:And I will never understand those that get upset over caps lock lol.

Because in computer/text parlance, it is yelling. I don't ever call people on it, just like I don't call people out who talk in "133t speak" or texting shorthand. I just don't reply to their comments or questions.

You mean 1337...

theCapraAegagrus wrote:You mean 1337...

Beat me to it.

I wasn't in on this Kickstarter, so I don't know if it was part of the original campaign, but I noticed Legends has full foiled versions of these decks (Belladonna and Stramonium) on their website.

https://legendsplayingcards.com/collect ... 1410233510
DETAILS
Print Quantity: 600 decks (100 available on official LPCC website)
Card material: LPCC CLASSIC FINISH with gold Mylar (full foil) laminated card backs (which adds ~.5mm height to the deck)
Custom ordered to LPCC specs, Black Core European Casino-Grade card stock with mylar lamination on card backs
Card coating: LPCC #201901 USA produced / water based
Card cutting: LPCC Diamond Cut / Traditional
Card backs: Mylar lamination in gold (full foil) with overprinting
Card faces: Custom art CMYK
Tuck exterior: Soft touch material (silicon inpregnated paper), red and black.
Tuck special features: Die cut hole
Press: Sheetfed UV ink offset press with UV and air curing
Manufacturing facility: CELT Co. - exclusive partner factory / China