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Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:34 am
by Timmargh
Regrettably, I've had to drop my prism deck.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:23 pm
by crazy_lazy
TheGentlemanWake wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:58 am
The diminished funding will have a dramatic effect on the print run totals. These decks will end up being the most rare TGW decks. Although I will reserve the right to print 1500 legacy for instance. Chances are production will be closer to 500.
Is every edition going to have a reduced print run? Or just the legacy decks?
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:07 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
crazy_lazy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:23 pm
TheGentlemanWake wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:58 am
The diminished funding will have a dramatic effect on the print run totals. These decks will end up being the most rare TGW decks. Although I will reserve the right to print 1500 legacy for instance. Chances are production will be closer to 500.
Is every edition going to have a reduced print run? Or just the legacy decks?
I will print 777 Dynastinae and 500 Prisms regardless. However the standard, prestige and legacy runs will be smaller than ever before.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:47 pm
by brownsl
So, just for clarification, the completionist with have the following decks?
1x Crimson
1x Cobalt
1x Prestige
1x Dynastinae
1x Prism
1x Legacy
1x Brick (12 decks, 4x Crimson?, 4x Cobalt?, 4x Prestige?)
A total of 18 decks?
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:57 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
brownsl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:47 pm
So, just for clarification, the completionist with have the following decks?
1x Crimson
1x Cobalt
1x Prestige
1x Dynastinae
1x Prism
1x Legacy
1x Brick (12 decks, 4x Crimson?, 4x Cobalt?, 4x Prestige?)
A total of 18 decks?
CORRECT
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:16 pm
by Bradius
I bit the bullet and upped mine to the prototype tier. All in this time baby.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:17 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
Bradius wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:16 pm
I bit the bullet and upped mine to the prototype tier. All in this time baby.
Thank you so much for the support!
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:25 pm
by hsbc
I wish I could be in for more, but at $125 the four-deck tier is already reaalllly pushing my budget
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:55 pm
by Sir Toddalot
I’d say it’s a good sign the number of backers continues to rise, despite the overall funding dropping. Almost to 600 backers. More people who can potentially add more add-ons on on backer kit later on when they have more available funds.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:06 pm
by masagin303
Happy to be a Completionist here. I really haven't buy any cards last year. My last KS was Under the Moon by Jocu in summer 2022. My wallet approves this to be a bit more crazy.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:18 pm
by masagin303
TheGentlemanWake wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:31 pm
I'm going to be streaming on the final day of the campaign from 6pm to the last minute at 8pm eastern on Dec 8th. It's a friday. Hope everyone will join me on my youtube channel as we count down.
Is this happening or is there too much sorrow from the campaign drops?
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:09 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
masagin303 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:18 pm
TheGentlemanWake wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:31 pm
I'm going to be streaming on the final day of the campaign from 6pm to the last minute at 8pm eastern on Dec 8th. It's a friday. Hope everyone will join me on my youtube channel as we count down.
Is this happening or is there too much sorrow from the campaign drops?
I planned to, but decided against it.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:35 pm
by Evilgamer
well, its over...and thats a reaction Ive Never had to a KS before.
eesh, I dont know what to say other than chin up Omar?..seems inadequate.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:39 pm
by hsbc
Once again this feels (to me) like a success, but I'm the only one? 588 people pledging $103,555 is a lot (yes, it will go down with failed payments, I know)
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:45 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
Yeah. This is the second time this happens to me. Successor was also like this. A steep decline in funding. Makes the last week really hard to stomach. There were a LOT of people who pledged $350+ and then in the last three days dumped the pledge. Didn’t reduce it. Just flat out dumped it.
I tried harder than I’ve ever tried to make everyone happy. People begged to be able to add the prism. The campaign ended with 20 or so prisms still available. Some folks seemingly set alarms to remind them to drop the campaign pledge—at least the loss of about $2k in the final hour would indicate that.
Went from 1500 to 1200 to 1000 to 600 backers from campaign to campaign. At this rate of attrition there won’t be a TGW in a few years.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:55 pm
by Evilgamer
Well I'll be honest I usually know what time any campaign Im on the fence about keeping something ends so that doesn't really surprise me that much.
But I made my final decisions this morning when I got up for this one. (and its still top 3 card campaigns amounts Ive pledged)
I still say....10 day campaign next time dont give them time to think about it.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:06 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:55 pm
Well I'll be honest I usually know what time any campaign Im on the fence about keeping something ends so that doesn't really surprise me that much.
But I made my final decisions this morning when I got up for this one. (and its still top 3 card campaigns amounts Ive pledged)
I still say....10 day campaign next time dont give them time to think about it.
I don’t want to sound ungrateful. I appreciate everyone’s support and kind words. This was a success. I know many creators would wish to raise 100k on Kickstarter.
Regarding next big TGW campaigns. Parlour will only have three decks. The grave witness has many editions designed. But I think I’m going to give this a deep rethink.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:22 pm
by CCwonder
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:55 pm
Well I'll be honest I usually know what time any campaign Im on the fence about keeping something ends so that doesn't really surprise me that much.
But I made my final decisions this morning when I got up for this one. (and its still top 3 card campaigns amounts Ive pledged)
I still say....10 day campaign next time dont give them time to think about it.
Not giving them time to think with a much shorter campaign seems like a sort of pressure strategy. I'm not sure if a shorter campaign would be the solution but maybe that is what is best to make more money.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:33 pm
by Evilgamer
CCwonder wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:22 pm
Not giving them time to think with a much shorter campaign seems like a sort of pressure strategy. I'm not sure if a shorter campaign would be the solution but maybe that is what is best to make more money.
I looked at a lot of KS card campaigns recently 80%-90% of the funding happens in the first 3 days outside of new deck unlocks (which show up as 1-3 day peaks then flatline again). This holds almost every time with very few not following this pattern.
The old KS pattern was more U shaped, about 1/3 at the start, about 1/3 in the middle and 1/3 at the end. Card campaigns almost never "go out with a bang" positively.
If you have your own web site and backer kit there is no upside to a 3-4 week campaign you know is going to fund and only the downside that people will back out.
And lets be honest the entire KS model is pressure based, "KS exclusive" "limited to x copies editions" its all about creating FOMO or trying to increase the perceived and agreed upon market value for an item.
Omar, when you are ready for suggestions and feedback on possible changes we will be here.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:27 pm
by PiazzaDelivery
If for no other reason than to distance yourself from De'Vo, don't shorten your campaigns too much.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:30 pm
by CCwonder
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:33 pm
CCwonder wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:22 pm
Not giving them time to think with a much shorter campaign seems like a sort of pressure strategy. I'm not sure if a shorter campaign would be the solution but maybe that is what is best to make more money.
I looked at a lot of KS card campaigns recently 80%-90% of the funding happens in the first 3 days outside of new deck unlocks (which show up as 1-3 day peaks then flatline again). This holds almost every time with very few not following this pattern.
The old KS pattern was more U shaped, about 1/3 at the start, about 1/3 in the middle and 1/3 at the end. Card campaigns almost never "go out with a bang" positively.
If you have your own web site and backer kit there is no upside to a 3-4 week campaign you know is going to fund and only the downside that people will back out.
And lets be honest the entire KS model is pressure based, "KS exclusive" "limited to x copies editions" its all about creating FOMO or trying to increase the perceived and agreed upon market value for an item.
Omar, when you are ready for suggestions and feedback on possible changes we will be here.
it looks like you are responding to me but you are talking to Omar? What is that last line trying to say within the context of replying to my comment?
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:45 pm
by Honeybee
CCwonder wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:50 am
I dropped my pledge early on in the campaign and haven't looked back.
Trolling?
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:55 pm
by Honeybee
CCwonder wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:30 pm
it looks like you are responding to me but you are talking to Omar? What is that last line trying to say within the context of replying to my comment?
Quoting your comment does not have to mean replying to your comment. It does not have to be 'All about me'
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:16 am
by CCwonder
Honeybee wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:55 pm
CCwonder wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:30 pm
it looks like you are responding to me but you are talking to Omar? What is that last line trying to say within the context of replying to my comment?
Quoting your comment does not have to mean replying to your comment. It does not have to be 'All about me'
This is some kind of an attack. I'm terribly offended.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:17 am
by CCwonder
Trolling?
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This attack is making me feel sad and marginalized.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:32 am
by Honeybee
Now I feel really sad
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:03 am
by Bradius
I was one of the people that dropped a Prism deck, but that was simply because I upgraded to a higher tier that had one included.
Congrats on the campaign.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:21 am
by Timmargh
Congratulations either way, Mr. TGW. I wish I could've pledged more.
(Now I just need to wait for my Dynastinæ deck so I can add it to my Tempest and Successor three deck display.)
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:28 am
by Evilgamer
TheGentlemanWake wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:39 pm
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:00 pm
How many days ago is a few? I ordered my Dynastinate Successor on the 24th and I dont see it there either.
Well I just turned it on. It says customers will receive a review notice in 14 days after order. So hopefully you will see it then!
And the 2 week delayed response...yes that was the case it emailed asking for a review overnight and its posted it to the site now.
Re: TGW presents The Beetlebacks designed by Widakk
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:49 am
by GandalfPC
For me it’s just the price point - would have happily bought a pile of these for less. Not saying the price is ill fitting, nor that a lower price would result in an end higher profit, but it does keep me out of many I would otherwise be in.