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I have filed a complaint on both Mana campaigns. Standard operational b.s. response:Talisman wrote:Out of curiosity, has anyone reported to Kickstarter about this get any resolution? I'm still trying to hang on for hope of an eventual delivery.
Here's my review:
Erik is so special... He run a Kickstarter project in August of 2014 and had the support of 662 backers, he raised a total value of $47,000 CAD to produce a deck of cards. This deck was suppose to be delivered on December of 2014, but with some delays and changes he only got the deck in August of 2015 (one year after he launched the project). From that time till now, he only shipped a small amount of deck, to some selected people and now he went completely dark, no communication not a single word of consideration to those that put their money up-front to support this project. The last time he communicated with us was to put the blame of this delay on the shipping company, which is the perfect excuse toss the responsibility to others. Now I just hope to get my decks from this very special person, who couldn't careless about the people that supported him. I hope that he have the manhood and respect for us and deliver what he promises, but at this time I hardly doubt of that, as all the signs point in the opposite direction, and most likely this CON-ARTIST will get away with my money (and others) and will still be left with the decks I paid for to resell and make more money out of it.
So yes, this guy is very special, in the sense that he has no personality responsability and no consideration for the people who supported him even not knowing him.
0 STARS.
+1vasta41 wrote:I reported the project and didn't even get that response.
This is pretty much the problem, he doesn't even bother to explain what's going on, he just sits on the decks and hope that we forget about it, but I won't. He have deleted my FB post that I mentioned above, but I'll repost it again and again... This probabily isn't the best way, but I'll keep on doing it, until I get my decks or my money.Justin O. wrote:... We don't know why things are in the state they are in now ...
There's some truth to this - The squeaky wheel gets the oil - but it all the wheels squeak all the time, how long till you just scrap the car?Justin O. wrote:I worry that all of this, all of our vitriol, is only making the situation worse, we are getting each other riled up and at the day I still want to get my cards. I know the whole situation is crap, and I am guilty of it myself, but we are just fueling the negative because we are frustrated or angry. Mana has had numerous successful projects, it doesn't make sense that he would turn con-artist on a project you could tell he really loved during the campaign. We don't know why things are in the state they are in now but I know fueling the fire isn't going to get me my decks and I don't want to hurt my odds at this point, which unfortunately, for whatever reason, are looking long.
Erik would get more sympathy if he actually communicated that. However, as of right now, got paid up front for something he hasn't delivered. The only thing I have to show for my $91 CAD are excuses, pictures of decks waiting to be shipped and pictures/videos of a select few who did get some of their decks.Mike Ratledge wrote:Things just aren't going well for Erik. I for one feel for him. He's been through an awful lot of crap, both busibess - and personal wise. "You catch more flues with honey than vinegar", so maybe the right angle for now is to see if we can help? We're not getting anywhere sitting around here carping.
Pretty much it!TGunitedcardists wrote:Erik would get more sympathy if he actually communicated that. However, as of right now, got paid up front for something he hasn't delivered. The only thing I have to show for my $91 CAD are excuses, pictures of decks waiting to be shipped and pictures/videos of a select few who did get some of their decks.Mike Ratledge wrote:Things just aren't going well for Erik. I for one feel for him. He's been through an awful lot of crap, both busibess - and personal wise. "You catch more flues with honey than vinegar", so maybe the right angle for now is to see if we can help? We're not getting anywhere sitting around here carping.
Exactly!! We are getting nowhere. But are you really suggesting that WE do something about it?? We did our part- the rest is not up to us, it's up to Erik. Here are some indisputable facts:Mike Ratledge wrote:We're not getting anywhere sitting around here carping.
Help? You're joking right? I haven't heard about any part of the Mana, as well as the Buskers campaign, which hasn't been a blatant money grab or disregard for what was promised after the end of the campaign. Erik Mana should be ashamed to call himself a man. This is no small amount of money which he has currently stolen from 2 Mana campaigns + Buskers and his posts on Twitter just continue to infuriate me. Man up you coward.Mike Ratledge wrote:Things just aren't going well for Erik. I for one feel for him. He's been through an awful lot of crap, both busibess - and personal wise. "You catch more flues with honey than vinegar", so maybe the right angle for now is to see if we can help? We're not getting anywhere sitting around here carping.
Still waiting on my Mana decks, but the Buskers decks arrived last month.snsdmonkey wrote: Help? You're joking right? I haven't heard about any part of the Mana, as well as the Buskers campaign, which hasn't been a blatant money grab or disregard for what was promised after the end of the campaign. Erik Mana should be ashamed to call himself a man. This is no small amount of money which he has currently stolen from 2 Mana campaigns + Buskers and his posts on Twitter just continue to infuriate me. Man up you coward.
I was going to say - I talked to Dave Hofmeister (Pokerstud52) and he told me that Erik paid him and he had finished shipping Buskers, maybe a week or ten days ago, now? (maybe two weeks?)4.of.Clubs wrote:Still waiting on my Mana decks, but the Buskers decks arrived last month.
He hasn't disappeared, he's just non-responsive. Which doesn't make much difference to us, I'll concede, but apparently he's active on facebook and twitter.octave wrote:I'm wondering that nobody could contact him successfully? I mean he is not a unknown man, he even has a website... How can someone disappear so effectively?
... and Instagram. Everywhere but Kickstarter.MagikFingerz wrote:He hasn't disappeared, he's just non-responsive. Which doesn't make much difference to us, I'll concede, but apparently he's active on facebook and twitter.octave wrote:I'm wondering that nobody could contact him successfully? I mean he is not a unknown man, he even has a website... How can someone disappear so effectively?
Not that we should all call and harass him, but doesn't anyone has a phone number that can call and see WTH is going on?octave wrote:I'm wondering that nobody could contact him successfully? I mean he is not a unknown man, he even has a website... How can someone disappear so effectively?
I had a short Facebook Messenger conversation with him yesterday. He's a wounded soul...octave wrote:I'm wondering that nobody could contact him successfully? I mean he is not a unknown man, he even has a website... How can someone disappear so effectively?
Well, he did it to himself.Mike Ratledge wrote: I had a short Facebook Messenger conversation with him yesterday. He's a wounded soul...
Did you by any chance ask him when we're getting the cards?Mike Ratledge wrote: I had a short Facebook Messenger conversation with him yesterday. He's a wounded soul...
Agreed.Cbkimble wrote:Well, he did it to himself.Mike Ratledge wrote: I had a short Facebook Messenger conversation with him yesterday. He's a wounded soul...
I got my Buskers (not signed when they were supposed to be) but not my signed Mana decks (part of the same pledge so who knows if he'll ever get that sorted to me), no coin, no deck boxes. So my problems are not isolated to the Mana campaign but also carry over to the Buskers one.4.of.Clubs wrote:Still waiting on my Mana decks, but the Buskers decks arrived last month.snsdmonkey wrote: Help? You're joking right? I haven't heard about any part of the Mana, as well as the Buskers campaign, which hasn't been a blatant money grab or disregard for what was promised after the end of the campaign. Erik Mana should be ashamed to call himself a man. This is no small amount of money which he has currently stolen from 2 Mana campaigns + Buskers and his posts on Twitter just continue to infuriate me. Man up you coward.
Can anyone confirm that it's money problems holding him back from shipping? If so, I don't have any sympathy. He should get a loan, ship and pay the loan back in installments. It may sound harsh, but he had the money up front. If that's not the problem, it could have been solved through communication.th4mo wrote:Agreed.Cbkimble wrote:Well, he did it to himself.Mike Ratledge wrote: I had a short Facebook Messenger conversation with him yesterday. He's a wounded soul...
If he needs help, frankly, he needs to help himself. Sitting around in self-pity is no way to find the light at the end of the tunnel.
What he needs to do is Get Off His Self-Pitying Ass, and mail one package today. One single package. It can be a US backer's single deck. He can pull an address out at random for all I care. He can find a few bucks to ship that. Then he needs to post to KS: "one package shipped today". That alone would be 100% better than what we are getting from him now.
Then he needs to get up and do it again tomorrow. and again the next day... and so on.
Baby steps towards completion are the only way he's going to get his spirits and momentum back up. If anyone reading this has ANY connection with Eric, this is the advice they should be giving him.
"Journey of 1000 miles" and all that...
He could already be doing this for all I know, but without communicating about it we can't know. though I think we'd be hearing about it if anyone was getting their rewards.
I do believe he will eventually deliver, but there's no way I am willing to pay twice for my shipping.
I'm willing to wait as long as it takes for him to hold up his end of the agreement, though of course we'll never be 100% whole with a delay of this extent.
TGunitedcardists wrote: Can anyone confirm that it's money problems holding him back from shipping? If so, I don't have any sympathy. He should get a loan, ship and pay the loan back in installments. It may sound harsh, but he had the money up front. If that's not the problem, it could have been solved through communication.
He basically ruined his card design/selling business. It's a shame. I really like his back designs especially. That's why I pledged on Kickstarter.
^message from Erik himself, make of it what you will...Yes, I wasn't able to sign the decks because once the decks arrived in Niagara they were immediately shipped. It was a small discrepancy that I was willing to take just to get the decks out to you guys immediately. Had the Niagara shipping company stopped the delivery or even taken decks off of the skids, they would have charged me an arm and a leg. There was no way I was going to let them do that to me considering the mess they've already put me in with the Sybil decks.
What the hell is this comment about?? If are going to post here that you talked with this guy at least tell us when the cards are going to be shipped. We don't need this type of comment of buddy defending buddy. You must stop with this type of coments, someone has pointed it out, this is no good for us. I would love to be on your end (the few elected people who got their decks) to also feel petty and sorry for this great man, but I ain't.Mike Ratledge wrote: I had a short Facebook Messenger conversation with him yesterday. He's a wounded soul...
This is funny or I may not know the all story, so will approach this with careful! This message was already posted before by someone regarding the same issue, so Erik is almost using an auto replay system!snsdmonkey wrote:^message from Erik himself, make of it what you will...Yes, I wasn't able to sign the decks because once the decks arrived in Niagara they were immediately shipped. It was a small discrepancy that I was willing to take just to get the decks out to you guys immediately. Had the Niagara shipping company stopped the delivery or even taken decks off of the skids, they would have charged me an arm and a leg. There was no way I was going to let them do that to me considering the mess they've already put me in with the Sybil decks.