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Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:19 am
by Eric Lee
Looks like the recent update from Jocu kinda forces the hand for Jocu, Omar and everyone else dealing with Cartamundi for the whole of 2024.
For those who didn't back Onda V2, here's the latest Jocu's Onda v2 update:
Hi guys, I'm going to keep this quick as I've just received a bombshell from Cartamundi and we have a lot of work to do to resolve the situation.
As many of you will be aware from talking with other suppliers, the move from Belgium to Spain was until recently going relatively to plan and we had been assured from our contacts at Cartamundi - two of whom we have worked with for over four years on all our projects - that everything was going to plan.
Well unfortunately last week, our main contact and the man behind all the original B9 innovation and all the push for custom playing cards in the past few years left the company quite suddenly for ‘a new venture’.
This set off alarm bells, but we had just received good samples of the decks and were promised pricing this week.
Long story short, that didn’t happen and we now receive news that there’s an issue internally and production cannot start until September 2024 which is obviously not just unacceptable, but the last straw.
I’d first like to apologise for the situation - we have always worked with Cartamundi as the world’s biggest card producer and are as shocked and disappointed as all of you will be with this eventuality. In short it has huge ramifications for the entire world of playing cards and our business, and we have wasted 6 months being strung along only to be hung out to dry.
The fact is we are now faced with a decision where we must change supplier. I don’t think many will disagree with this choice but do let me know in the comments below.
As ONDA does not feature foiling, we are open to both USPCC and WJPC but we have no experience with either, so will be spending the next few days communicating with our friends in the industry such as TWI and Stockholm 17 for their views on working with these printers.
I’m afraid we’ll need a bit of time to come up with a plan and it’s not going to be easy, but I appreciate your further patience while we get this resolved and get your decks into production. There are obviously many variables to consider but the important thing is that you get a quality product and these factories are among the best in the world.
I don’t have much else to say right now as we’re still digesting the information, but needless to say I’m angry that our trust in Cartamundi has resulted in us, other creators and all our customers having the piss taken out of us for six months only to be let down.
We ask for your patience over the next few days while we come up with a solution. This update has been written just a few minutes after receiving the news so I imagine there are many questions but please keep them to the update comments section so we can respond easily.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:12 pm
by kevork
Per Omar's livestream today:
- Process is underway
- WJPC has the artwork
- Kevin Cantrell is looking at the digital proofs
- Shipping estimated to be sometime in the Summer (likely late Summer)
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:19 am
by CCwonder
I like the decks but I can't get past having to buy 2 decks and a coin in a box for 100$. It was a struggle but I have passed on these.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:11 am
by Disenchanted_11
Not that anyone needs to rehash the whole thing, but the pricing has been discussed extensively on this thread already.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:56 pm
by CCwonder
Disenchanted_11 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:11 am
Not that anyone needs to rehash the whole thing, but the pricing has been discussed extensively on this thread already.
so? Rofl thanks for the tip
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:21 am
by TheGentlemanWake
Production is paid for. Artwork is approved.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:17 am
by Ocelot
These are absolutely gorgeous cards!
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:28 pm
by Disenchanted_11
WJPC Printing is complete!
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:33 pm
by laitostarr777
Looks clean!!! I think everyone is right about Cartamundi's Linen Finish just ruined all the foiling on the artworks
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:42 pm
by Adamthinks
Daaaamn, that looks fantastic. Better than the original images. Excited for when these finally arrive.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:52 pm
by NIAVLYSYUG
TheGentlemanWake wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:21 am
Production is paid for. Artwork is approved.
Yes... the ARTWORK is absolutely APPROVED! What a beautiful design! I'm so excited to receive these decks when finish.
This is the kind of design that makes me want to buy without hesitation!
Thank's
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:19 am
by TheGentlemanWake
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:45 am
by Adamthinks
Daaaamn, those look freaking fantastic!
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 11:14 am
by Evilgamer
yep those look great.
Wonder what that guy thinks about his job that involves thumbing slowly through decks probably all day (waiting for the comment about the sound the mic picks up when he uses the table to rearrange the stack.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:52 am
by TheGentlemanWake
The tucks are recieved. They are being assembled this week. Cards will then be shipped to gambler's warehouse and then fulfillment will begun. We expect the decks to be in customer hands by the end of summer. Consider this a new update! And I give regular updates on my Deal Me In livestream. Usually at the beginning of every episode. In addition the product page is being updated with information.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:41 pm
by Honeybee
The link only produces:
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Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:34 pm
by Adamthinks
I just got a notification that these just shipped. Woohoo! Excited to finally get these.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:53 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
What an ordeal this has been! Finally! GOLDSMITH SHIPPING!
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:06 pm
by A. Haines
Woop woop!
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 5:15 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
BTW, Kevin will be on Deal Me In with me and Chris Moyer on Monday 7:30pm est to talk all things Goldsmith.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:30 pm
by Disenchanted_11
Got my shipment confirmation, am pleased it was shipped via FedEx!
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:53 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
Giving away a Prototype Goldsmith Deck! Join us monday at 7:30pm eastern!
https://youtube.com/live/c49qFcD-ksA
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:11 pm
by kevork
Comparing the Cartamundi and WJPC versions would be interesting. Looking forward to listening!
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:35 pm
by JazzBaloo
kevork wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:11 pm
Comparing the Cartamundi and WJPC versions would be interesting. Looking forward to listening!
One of the decks is Carta and the other Wjpc? I had no idea. That would be interesting for sure.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:42 pm
by felicityk
JazzBaloo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:35 pm
One of the decks is Carta and the other Wjpc? I had no idea. That would be interesting for sure.
I believe the prototype was done by Cartamundi, but due to their collapse the production decks are by WJPC. They are giving away a prototype.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:46 pm
by JazzBaloo
felicityk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:42 pm
JazzBaloo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:35 pm
One of the decks is Carta and the other Wjpc? I had no idea. That would be interesting for sure.
I believe the prototype was done by Cartamundi, but due to their collapse the production decks are by WJPC. They are giving away a prototype.
Oh that is nice. Good luck to the winner. They will surely be happy. Are you going to participate?
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:48 pm
by felicityk
JazzBaloo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:46 pm
felicityk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:42 pm
JazzBaloo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:35 pm
One of the decks is Carta and the other Wjpc? I had no idea. That would be interesting for sure.
I believe the prototype was done by Cartamundi, but due to their collapse the production decks are by WJPC. They are giving away a prototype.
Oh that is nice. Good luck to the winner. They will surely be happy. Are you going to participate?
Probably not, I don't have time to watch live streams.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:57 pm
by PiazzaDelivery
Has this been made into a podcast yet? Finding it tougher and tougher to tune in live and I'd prefer having episodes on the go rather than on YouTube or YouTube to mp3.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:01 pm
by Adamthinks
Omar... dude, just received mine ..and they are friggin spectacular. Worth the wait. The foil work is so well done. Outside of that I'm sure it caused you a lot of extra stress, I'm very glad this ended up printing at WJPC instead of Cartamundi. The fine details in the foiling are SO MUCH more legible than they would have been. The lettering on the spades and diamonds for example, I don't think would have shown up nearly as well. I love the packaging and the coin too. This was one of the projects I was looking forward to the most this year and it delivered in spades.
Re: The Goldsmith by Kevin Cantrell (Cantrell A Priori 001) with TGW
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:29 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
Thank you for your kind words and your patience! Spread the word! Would love to sell the remaining stock.