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Great colors, great art, great price. Triple Crown winner. Now I can go back to bed. Look forward to receiving these.

In for a pair. Great job Lotrek!

I'm in for a pair as well. I'm passing on a lot of other decks to save up for Lotreks. I was getting used to the free shipping though

I really want to see more of the Hyeronimus deck, and what unique features you come up with for that one

Please disregard original posting. Best of luck to Lotrek on his incredibly beautiful and innovative new project.

Well, it's one of the most affordable Lotrek's deck lately...

Too rich as in you don't think it's worth the price or something else? Well to have this bronze material that hasn't been used before can make it worth it. A material that'll never be used again at that.

If the cart-based inventory is to be believed, these are moving briskly:

Of 600 pairs of LITURGY, there are just 167 green & 162 red remaining.

From Lotrek's Kickstarter update yesterday, I was under the impression that there are 600 decks total (300 of each color). See update below.

Deck features:
Limited edition of 600 decks (300+300)
Poker size
54 cards
Printed on 2-color metallic stock
No missing or double cards (LOL)
Very elegant and sturdy tuck case featuring gold foil, silver ink printing and deep debossing
Available in 2 colors for the back design and tuck case: Green and Red

Pablo393 wrote:From Lotrek's Kickstarter update yesterday, I was under the impression that there are 600 decks total (300 of each color)

Exactly, there are 600 decks available, not 600 pairs.

@All: I'm very honored and glad you show such an apreciation for my work!

Prices for the decks aren't bad, price for shipping is. Are these coming from overseas? That could be the only thing I can think of that would cause US shipping to be $11 for both decks.

vasta41 wrote:Prices for the decks aren't bad, price for shipping is. Are these coming from overseas? That could be the only thing I can think of that would cause US shipping to be $11 for both decks.

Of course these will be shipped from Greece.
But claiming $11 to ship 2 decks overseas is bad, well I never paid that low for 2 decks shipped from US with domestic shipping already included. So consider yourself very lucky...

sms69x wrote:

vasta41 wrote:Prices for the decks aren't bad, price for shipping is. Are these coming from overseas? That could be the only thing I can think of that would cause US shipping to be $11 for both decks.

Of course these will be shipped from Greece.
But claiming $11 to ship 2 decks overseas is bad, well I never paid that low for 2 decks shipped from US with domestic shipping already included. So consider yourself very lucky...

Oh believe me- I do. If I lived overseas I'd have to find another hobby. I don't know how you guys do it on a regular basis!

vasta41 wrote:

sms69x wrote:

vasta41 wrote:Prices for the decks aren't bad, price for shipping is. Are these coming from overseas? That could be the only thing I can think of that would cause US shipping to be $11 for both decks.

Of course these will be shipped from Greece.
But claiming $11 to ship 2 decks overseas is bad, well I never paid that low for 2 decks shipped from US with domestic shipping already included. So consider yourself very lucky...

Oh believe me- I do. If I lived overseas I'd have to find another hobby. I don't know how you guys do it on a regular basis!

3 words: Black market organs.

Was thinking about picking up a few more decks, but it looks like they are no longer available on Lotrek's website. Hopefully that means they are all sold out. Congrats on another success Lotrek. Can't wait to have these in hand for the holiday card playing season.

Pablo393 wrote:Was thinking about picking up a few more decks, but it looks like they are no longer available on Lotrek's website. Hopefully that means they are all sold out.

Last check there were about 100 of each left.
This was a 3 day pre-order window so the decks would have been removed from sale regardless of if they sold out or not.
I'm sure anyone looking to pick up some extra decks will be able to do so at a future date.

vasta41 wrote:

sms69x wrote:

vasta41 wrote:Prices for the decks aren't bad, price for shipping is. Are these coming from overseas? That could be the only thing I can think of that would cause US shipping to be $11 for both decks.

Of course these will be shipped from Greece.
But claiming $11 to ship 2 decks overseas is bad, well I never paid that low for 2 decks shipped from US with domestic shipping already included. So consider yourself very lucky...

Oh believe me- I do. If I lived overseas I'd have to find another hobby. I don't know how you guys do it on a regular basis!

I can't speak for others but it makes the hobby a lot "cheaper" for me. Since a lot of very nice decks have high shipping costs it makes it easier to pass on them. I would have gotten the las joker and thief deck from KS but the shipping costs were the same as a deck so... pass, and this has happened quite a lot lately. In the end it gets filtered down to very nice decks that have "reasonable" international shipping.

pablo19 wrote: I can't speak for others but it makes the hobby a lot "cheaper" for me. Since a lot of very nice decks have high shipping costs it makes it easier to pass on them. I would have gotten the las joker and thief deck from KS but the shipping costs were the same as a deck so... pass, and this has happened quite a lot lately. In the end it gets filtered down to very nice decks that have "reasonable" international shipping.

Flights are cheap now due to cheap gas, I'd save all the shipping and just make a trip with an empty suitcase to fill up! That's what Sherman does - suitcases of decks when he comes back from China lol.

misterharmanko wrote:

Pablo393 wrote:Was thinking about picking up a few more decks, but it looks like they are no longer available on Lotrek's website. Hopefully that means they are all sold out.

Last check there were about 100 of each left.
This was a 3 day pre-order window so the decks would have been removed from sale regardless of if they sold out or not.
I'm sure anyone looking to pick up some extra decks will be able to do so at a future date.

You might be able to get them from UCdecksales.com - soon.

Lotrek wrote: Details coming soon...

Hey Lotrek,

Just saw your email about the printing registration issue, don't have Facebook but thought maybe a line of discussion could be opened here as well?

I'll prefer centered backs with the non aligned fronts. During gameplay it won't be that noticeable since the art looks good.

If there's a pre-order, best if cards are already made.

I pre-ordered 8 decks for the curiosity and rarity of the stock with the design highlighting a different border color for the backs. How does the new (non-rare) stock compare to the original printed stock?

I didn't get the email (I ordered 3 decks), but saw it on Facebook thanks to another forum.

This is what I posted there:

"Ok, it's a serious bummer. One solution might be printing the correct deck in bronce, with its cool tuck, and cutting the faulty ones having an aligned back (really necessary for playability), put in a basic box and add it to the order. We would be getting two decks, the bronze only in perfect shape, and the faulty one so we can enjoy the praised bi-color stock. I feel only the bonze one is a serious downgrade from the product we ordered. I'm sorry if I sound harsh, I'm not mad at all, mistakes happen, I'm sorry for you, Lotrek, but this is what I feel get closer to fair in my opinion."

Sounds a perfectly reasonable response to me jsantafe

I understand that most (maybe?) people open and play with their cards. I guess that's what they're for after all, right? But I personally wouldn't be using such a rare deck to play anything. So while I agree that the way the cards printed is not functional for playing games, the reason these cards were made was to own a piece of history that no longer exists. If people feel it necessary to play poker with them, that's their prerogative. But the selling point for this deck wasn't for poker playing- it was for the stock. So my opinion is give the people what they payed for and let them play poker with another deck of cards. I can see it from both sides and either way sucks but I think the purpose of this deck is to admire the quality over the functionality. Not to mention, with all the reprints that Lotrek has gone through with almost all of his decks, people should just about expect the first version to be flawed (I hate to say this but it's hard to ignore).

As always, keep your head up, Lotrek! "You can't please everyone" but you always come damn close.

I would also like the original stock, I already got a print of the decks he did on the copper stock and don't mind some missed registration as long as I'm not the only one with a bad deck, if the whole run is errored I am not getting the bad product, I'm getting one of the only thing that is available, unique, and rare. That said I also like jsantafe's solution to have a print run on alt stock that is not errored, but still provide the original version for people who want it

I agree that no matter how you see it, it sucks. But the main purpose of the deck is for people to admire the printing technique which trully looks like something between printing and painting and also to get mesmerized by the play of light on the metallic stock. This purpose is perfectly served by the all bronze stock. The bi-color stock served me very well but it was not the main value of the deck. Besides, I intend to continue using metallic stocks and these will be of the same color on both sides.
In the end, I'm sure that all will say that the new print is better. I'll make some small changes that will add to the beauty of the deck.

@Vasta: I too expect my first print to have flaws. I'm doing this with printers that have excellent equipment and knowledge but no experience in playing card printing. So I must be constantly checking everything. It's very difficult and I'm sure I'll be failing sometimes.

Lotrek wrote:I agree that no matter how you see it, it sucks. But the main purpose of the deck is for people to admire the printing technique which trully looks like something between printing and painting and also to get mesmerized by the play of light on the metallic stock. This purpose is perfectly served by the all bronze stock. The bi-color stock served me very well but it was not the main value of the deck. Besides, I intend to continue using metallic stocks and these will be of the same color on both sides.
In the end, I'm sure that all will say that the new print is better. I'll make some small changes that will add to the beauty of the deck.

@Vasta: I too expect my first print to have flaws. I'm doing this with printers that have excellent equipment and knowledge but no experience in playing card printing. So I must be constantly checking everything. It's very difficult and I'm sure I'll be failing sometimes.

What are you doing with the misprints on the unique stock? I am interested in those

Maybe you should stick to printing decks with actual card manufacturers.

Lotrek wrote:I agree that no matter how you see it, it sucks. But the main purpose of the deck is for people to admire the printing technique which trully looks like something between printing and painting and also to get mesmerized by the play of light on the metallic stock. This purpose is perfectly served by the all bronze stock. The bi-color stock served me very well but it was not the main value of the deck.

I agree, but at least for me part of the reason I bought the deck is also because of the unique bi-color stock. It was also indeed part of the marketing/promotion we saw for the deck.