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Why don't I make it easy for everyone here- anyone who DOESN'T want this deck, please comment below. Sherman- please let everyone else know when you find these. No pressure!

vasta41 wrote:Sherman- please let everyone else know when you find these. No pressure!

Hahaha Ever since the first posting, I have been scouring the internet and my regular shops every couple hours to locate this deck...alas, to no avail Rest assured, if and when I do find them, I will be picking up a couple dozen to spread the love (unless someone else beats me to it)

Put me on whatever list puts one of these in each of my hands.

I'm permanently on Sherm's list... Right buddy?

badpete69 wrote:I'm permanently on Sherm's list... Right buddy?

Of course Pierre, as always, you are the first on the list!

JacksonRobinson wrote:Yep. These are for real. And yes they are still not allowing bees to be tampered with through the custom division.

Jackson, did your source provide any idea of what countries/markets that these will be released?

I'd like a couple too

I'd like one as well!

Sherman we are counting on you!

I am interested in 1 as well. Though perhaps they will be available later on somewhere? Heck I just noticed GW is selling the Bicycle Green Label right now, something which I overpaid for quite some time ago it seems, as with other decks. If people calm down and be patient these may be available somewhere for a reason price in the future with any luck.

I still have concerns about it's legitimacy though since you can clearly see Bicycle trademarks on the flap if you look closely on what is a Bee branded deck. This seems like it would be a major no-no for the USPC to do.

I don't see what you guys are saying about the Bike TM on the flap...?

Justin O. wrote:I don't see what you guys are saying about the Bike TM on the flap...?

Notice the wording, although partially hidden, clearly says "...BICYCLE and Design...". For Bee decks, this normally says "...BEE and Design..."

Does it say Bicycle though? All I can see clearly is a word ending to le. And if you zoom in, the letter before that le looks kinda like a f to me.

But that just raises more questions and I'm not even sure about that f, could as well read Bicycle.

Maybe it mentions both Bee and Bicycle for some reason? Is that even possible? Something like "Bee, Bicycle and Tally-Ho are trademarks of USPCC etc etc etc"

Ok, maybe clearly was a stretch, but I still think it is "YCLE" and the C just has a smudge. Here are Bike and Bee deck flaps for comparison. I've never seen anything with Bicycle and Bee (and Tally-Ho) combined. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened, I've just never seen it. The recent White Tally-Ho's by Penguin all say Tally-Ho only.

I zoomed in and I see a mark then the LE and Design then that mark again.

That is exactly what I looked at. Now either USPC somehow missed that or didn't bother to pay attention or it's not legit. I have never seen a Bee deck with Bicycle trademarks or vice versa so it makes it strange.

Mike Ratledge wrote:

JacksonRobinson wrote:Yep. These are for real. And yes they are still not allowing bees to be tampered with through the custom division.

Go figure? So obviously made for the foreign / Asian market only, we'd have to assume?

Maybe this has something to do with it?
I'm not too knowledgeable with this but would trademarks be different for decks made only for the Asian/non-US market?
If it's not, then this would definitely be fake, although a very pretty and well made fake that everyone's signed up for.

IMO there are very few printers in the world that can create a deck like this. I highly doubt that EPCC, LPCC or MPC would risk infringing on USPCC. I'm not to familiar with the printer Lotrek uses (NPCC? In Greece?) but I doubt they would infringe on USPCC either- why risk it? So unless this was printed by a printer we never heard of before or this is some REALLY good Photoshopping, this is legit. It has to "Bee."

Jackson confirmed with USPCC a few days ago that these were real. Why are we still debating if these are real?

I'll put this to rest.

I reached out to Tiffany in the custom dept. at USPCC


"We did that one, Royal Bee Blue for international sale. "


There you go. It's real. Let the search begin!


Jay

CBJ wrote:I'll put this to rest.

I reached out to Tiffany in the custom dept. at USPCC


"We did that one, Royal Bee Blue for international sale. "


There you go. It's real. Let the search begin!


Jay

Can you tell "Tiffany" next time a cool, rare deck like this is created to save a gross for you to sell here????

Well tell her she put the wrong trademark info on the tuck, lol.

Why is it they say no custom Bee decks but then they turn around and do just that? Is it because Bee in Asia is bigger than Bicycles so its ok?

CBJ wrote:I'll put this to rest.
I reached out to Tiffany in the custom dept. at USPCC
"We did that one, Royal Bee Blue for international sale. "
There you go. It's real. Let the search begin!
Jay

Thanks Jay (and Jackson) for the confirmation! Can a mod change the title to reflect the proper name of the deck? Royal Bee - Blue, just in case they come out with a Red

I am still looking/hunting....

Got it...

jerichoholic wrote:Why is it they say no custom Bee decks but then they turn around and do just that? Is it because Bee in Asia is bigger than Bicycles so its ok?

Is a Bee make by/for USPCC a custom deck?

Have they ever said _they'd_ never do any other designs in Bee?

Gareth wrote:

jerichoholic wrote:Why is it they say no custom Bee decks but then they turn around and do just that? Is it because Bee in Asia is bigger than Bicycles so its ok?

Is a Bee make by/for USPCC a custom deck?

Have they ever said _they'd_ never do any other designs in Bee?

When is say "custom" I mean a Bee deck being designed through the custom department at USPC. uSPC corporate can design what ever they want.

JacksonRobinson wrote:When is say "custom" I mean a Bee deck being designed through the custom department at USPC. uSPC corporate can design what ever they want.

Thats exactly what I thought/was trying to make the point to jericholic - just because they're not keen to make custom decks with the Bee IP, doesn't meant they're not going to do whatever they like - particularly to cash in on their popularity in Asia.

shermjack wrote:

CBJ wrote:I'll put this to rest.
I reached out to Tiffany in the custom dept. at USPCC
"We did that one, Royal Bee Blue for international sale. "
There you go. It's real. Let the search begin!
Jay

Thanks Jay (and Jackson) for the confirmation! Can a mod change the title to reflect the proper name of the deck? Royal Bee - Blue, just in case they come out with a Red

I am still looking/hunting....

Sherman, if you find these count me in for a couple.

Hi folks, found a listing on ebay on these, for any who are still interested.

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Hey Folks, just an update...the Royal Bees were released early this week in a very limited quantity (only 90 were released) and purchases were limited to 6 decks per person and unfortunately the 6 decks I picked up are all accounted for. I was told by the China USPCC Agent (which is a sister company of Jarden and the main distributor for USPCC) that they will get in more stock next month, but he didn't say when or how many...nor did he tell me how many total decks were printed. The decks are gold foiled on both the front and back.

The decks are selling for 198RMB or around 31USD, so to be honest, the eBay listing is not to unreasonable for anyone who wants to get the deck now. I am pretty confident that I can pick up at least another dozen or 2 decks when they are released, but as I said, if anyone is interested in getting one NOW, then getting them off eBay at the current price of 41USD including shipping is not bad. As I may have mentioned, I am currently in China and will not return to the US until late July, so I will not be able to ship anything that I get until then, but those that have purchased from me in the past know that I will do my best to get you your deck as soon as possible in the best condition as possible.

Here's a picture of some decks...sorry, I have not had the nerve to open a deck yet, but will probably do so when I pick up more decks.

Some pics from the website: