Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:42 pm
ALOHOMORAAA!! and the box is opened, and what’s this: a new edition locked behind a set
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Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11 (ill. Russ Gray)
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Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:38 pm
Another of T11 evil scheme… typical
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:50 pm
the marketing tactic that shall not be mentioned?laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:38 pm
ALOHOMORAAA!! and the box is opened, and what’s this: a new edition locked behind a set
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:12 pm
You're acting like theory11 is the only company that does this. Literally every card brand you know including the beloved Kickstarter brands that people here love put their special edition deck behind a box set and not individually. If they came out with the deck individually but had a high price tag then you'd complain also. And if they came out with a bunch of them for everyone to get then it's not really a special edition is it. So pick your poison, it's how business works.laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:38 pm Another of T11 evil scheme… typical
ALOHOMORAAA!! and the box is opened, and what’s this: a new edition locked behind a set
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:32 pm
Then do both. Give people options. But yes, from a business standpoint, it makes sense.antifaro wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:12 pmYou're acting like theory11 is the only company that does this. Literally every card brand you know including the beloved Kickstarter brands that people here love put their special edition deck behind a box set and not individually. If they came out with the deck individually but had a high price tag then you'd complain also. And if they came out with a bunch of them for everyone to get then it's not really a special edition is it. So pick your poison, it's how business works.laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:38 pm Another of T11 evil scheme… typical
ALOHOMORAAA!! and the box is opened, and what’s this: a new edition locked behind a set
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:39 pm
Im not a fan of "buy the crap edition to get the one you want"
but honestly what Im even less a fan of is a non-card items to get it
see tomorrow's example
(though I have no idea what the difference is going to be vs the normal gilded versions, there are 3 in the marketing email, normal, gilded and "legacy")
To future campaign designers, I have been known to just skip an entire campaign over such tactics.
but honestly what Im even less a fan of is a non-card items to get it
see tomorrow's example
(though I have no idea what the difference is going to be vs the normal gilded versions, there are 3 in the marketing email, normal, gilded and "legacy")
To future campaign designers, I have been known to just skip an entire campaign over such tactics.
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:57 pm
The verum videre or eye of providence image does nothing for me. A single eye is not attractive - just creepy
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:13 pm
mebbe but I assume you know why thats on brand for KWP though
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:18 pm
Yes, familiar with the one dollar - ever since the 94 version of Miracle on 34th Street LOL
My birthdate is July 4 - should have been an American
My birthdate is July 4 - should have been an American
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:25 am
Evilgamer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:39 pm Im not a fan of "buy the crap edition to get the one you want"
but honestly what Im even less a fan of is a non-card items to get it
see tomorrow's example
(though I have no idea what the difference is going to be vs the normal gilded versions, there are 3 in the marketing email, normal, gilded and "legacy")
To future campaign designers, I have been known to just skip an entire campaign over such tactics.
Typically the Legacy editions just means they come in the wood box. Nothing different for the decks themselves.
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:47 am
Well, ARK would be the most frequent offender based on your words: even the Standard Edition, you have to get them in a set boxEvilgamer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:39 pm Im not a fan of "buy the crap edition to get the one you want"
but honestly what Im even less a fan of is a non-card items to get it
see tomorrow's example
(though I have no idea what the difference is going to be vs the normal gilded versions, there are 3 in the marketing email, normal, gilded and "legacy")
To future campaign designers, I have been known to just skip an entire campaign over such tactics.
But, what can we do, we are nothing but consumers who have to make decisions after decisions
It's probably the frustration MOST would agree with me. I am fine with "a special edition" locked behind a set, AS LONG the price is justified. But again, T11 set box prices just never justified for me. To makes matters worse: the shipping to my country, that USED to be affordable, now is double the price and I can no longer bought from them directly ever again - makes me missed their Billionaire Club, Notorious BIG, and maybe the latest Eleven Madison and the WB 100.antifaro wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 9:12 pm You're acting like theory11 is the only company that does this. Literally every card brand you know including the beloved Kickstarter brands that people here love put their special edition deck behind a box set and not individually. If they came out with the deck individually but had a high price tag then you'd complain also. And if they came out with a bunch of them for everyone to get then it's not really a special edition is it. So pick your poison, it's how business works.
Honestly, I started to lose my respect to T11 at this point. From what I've seen, movie collabs tend to go for this direction.
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:12 am
To each their own, if the price for this new one is $100 then an extra $35 or so for a box set that actually has a magical effect would actually be justifiable. Manufacturing for this kind of thing is tricky, since it's not just a simple box that just opens and closes. It probably costs more than you think to make due to the hidden mechanics. Shipping unfortunately has gotten ridiculous across the board due to inflation and international regulations making it more costly to import, that's not a conscious decision by theory11 to extort money in shipping from you. Losing respect for a card company by making playing cards that reach new eyes and bring them into the community is kind of a laughable take though.laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:47 am It's probably the frustration MOST would agree with me. I am fine with "a special edition" locked behind a set, AS LONG the price is justified. But again, T11 set box prices just never justified for me. To makes matters worse: the shipping to my country, that USED to be affordable, now is double the price and I can no longer bought from them directly ever again - makes me missed their Billionaire Club, Notorious BIG, and maybe the latest Eleven Madison and the WB 100.
Honestly, I started to lose my respect to T11 at this point. From what I've seen, movie collabs tend to go for this direction.
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:25 am
I don't think I will be buying any decks from Theory11 for some time. 
Look at these prices for shipping (including taxes)
Look at these prices for shipping (including taxes)
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:33 am
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:37 am
Romania, EU
For 1 deck the shipping is 23$ and taxes 7$(VAT is 19% in my country).
For 1 deck and the set the shipping jumps to 57$ plus 19% taxes for the whole amount.
I didn't even want the set, but the WB deck is nice.
Maybe Penguin or someone else will have it. No rush in getting it now
For 1 deck the shipping is 23$ and taxes 7$(VAT is 19% in my country).
For 1 deck and the set the shipping jumps to 57$ plus 19% taxes for the whole amount.
I didn't even want the set, but the WB deck is nice.
Maybe Penguin or someone else will have it. No rush in getting it now
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:42 am
Ah that makes sense, yeah the EU and their new shipping regulations and tax requirements are pretty absurd. Makes it so much harder to import international goods at a decent price :/HFMJ wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:37 am Romania, EU
For 1 deck the shipping is 23$ and taxes 7$(VAT is 19% in my country).
For 1 deck and the set the shipping jumps to 57$ plus 19% taxes for the whole amount.
I didn't even want the set, but the WB deck is nice.
Maybe Penguin or someone else will have it. No rush in getting it now
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:45 am
I’m in Canada and the shipping was a nightmare. Looks like I won’t be placing an order either. Was almost $50 to get it to Canada.
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:52 pm
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11 (ill. Russ Gray)
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:12 pm
Studio on Fire wrote:Harry Potter Tuck Cases
Theory11 teamed up Mattson Creative to design these Harry Potter themed playing cards. The amount of intense detailing in this project made these incredibly fun to produce (oh man, do we have some Harry Potter nerds amongst us), but also challenging, as tiny areas of knocked-out foil isn’t the easiest thing to pull off. We are proud of how these turned out, our expert staff was able to hold on to the smallest details through multiple foil passes and a sculptural emboss.
These require many trips through the press: once for the interior pattern inside (foil) and three times on the outside (two foil colors + the emboss), then a diecut… and then again for fold/glue. That means each tuck case passed through a minimum of 6 presses in our studio and with four different color-ways, meaning four different paper colors and foil combinations; it’s a true testament to the amount of teamwork it takes between our planning team and pressfolks to successfully accomplish these intricate projects.
This project required multiple types of paper. The blue deck was produced with Mohawk, in Carnival Deep Blue. The green deck was done with Mohawk, in Via Forest Green. The Gold/Brown deck was done with Neenah Classic Crest in Canyon Brown. Lastly, the red tuck was the most unique, using letterpress printing to create a custom color on Neenah Classic Crest.
All of these tucks were foil stamped three times (once on the inside and twice on the outside) and hit with a heavy emboss. They were also diecut and folded/glued before being sent off to meet the playing cards at a fulfillment center.
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11 (ill. Russ Gray)
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:15 am
I purchased the box set. I thought the special edition with foil backing was not made by USPCC, but the green of the four basic colors was also not made by USPCC and was the same paper as the special edition.
The thickness is almost the same but the weight of 52 pieces is 92~93g, which is about 8,9% heavier than the T11 deck made by USPCC.(85~86g)
Below is Slytherin-Green Edition.
The embossing is shallow and the vertical and horizontal lines of the grid are more prominent than on USPCC. The surface is glossy. The base color, which was off-white, is more brownish.
The UV light response is quite different from that made by USPCC.
From the looks, handling and weight, it seems to be the same printer as the T11's recent non-USPCC cards.
(STAR WARS GOLD, OSCARS, EXTINCT ANIMALS, WARNER BROS. 100TH ANNIVERSARY, ELEVEN MADISON PARK etc.)
I could not tell the difference from the tack.
The barcodes on the cellophane are different sizes, but I wonder if this is a good way to identify them...?
The color and design of the closure seal is slightly different!
yellow: seal_A USPCC, blue: seal_A USPCC, red: seal_B USPCC, green seal_B EPCC?
The yellow one I bought at launch was the seal_A(white color and smaller pattern in the middle).
I'm imagining, chronologically
Printed by USPCC -> Seal stock ran out and changed from pattern A to B -> Printed via EPCC?
I guess If so, it may be that the USPCC is the definitive supplier of Pattern A seals, and that Pattern B seals will be switched to EPCC from now on, although I don't know which one it will be.
I know that some manufacturers change the printing company when they reprint the same product (KWP, Elephant Playing Cards), but this was my first experience with T11.
Does anyone have any other information on cards that have changed printers other than this, such as non-green Parry Potter or those that were made by USPCC in the past, official T11 statements, how to tell them apart, etc.?
The printing company is not a top selection criterion when choosing a deck based on design, but I still consider it a playing card, including the handling, so I'm a little sad if the printing company changes and I can't tell the difference from the outside when buying.
(I was thinking of using the 4 colors in a color change type of magic, but now it's a little harder to do.)
The thickness is almost the same but the weight of 52 pieces is 92~93g, which is about 8,9% heavier than the T11 deck made by USPCC.(85~86g)
The embossing is shallow and the vertical and horizontal lines of the grid are more prominent than on USPCC. The surface is glossy. The base color, which was off-white, is more brownish.
From the looks, handling and weight, it seems to be the same printer as the T11's recent non-USPCC cards.
(STAR WARS GOLD, OSCARS, EXTINCT ANIMALS, WARNER BROS. 100TH ANNIVERSARY, ELEVEN MADISON PARK etc.)
The barcodes on the cellophane are different sizes, but I wonder if this is a good way to identify them...?
yellow: seal_A USPCC, blue: seal_A USPCC, red: seal_B USPCC, green seal_B EPCC?
The yellow one I bought at launch was the seal_A(white color and smaller pattern in the middle).
I'm imagining, chronologically
Printed by USPCC -> Seal stock ran out and changed from pattern A to B -> Printed via EPCC?
I guess If so, it may be that the USPCC is the definitive supplier of Pattern A seals, and that Pattern B seals will be switched to EPCC from now on, although I don't know which one it will be.
I know that some manufacturers change the printing company when they reprint the same product (KWP, Elephant Playing Cards), but this was my first experience with T11.
Does anyone have any other information on cards that have changed printers other than this, such as non-green Parry Potter or those that were made by USPCC in the past, official T11 statements, how to tell them apart, etc.?
The printing company is not a top selection criterion when choosing a deck based on design, but I still consider it a playing card, including the handling, so I'm a little sad if the printing company changes and I can't tell the difference from the outside when buying.
(I was thinking of using the 4 colors in a color change type of magic, but now it's a little harder to do.)
Re: Harry Potter Playing Cards by T11 (ill. Russ Gray)
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:11 pm
Interesting Zuc but apart from the color your pic of the air cushion dimples does not show much difference