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Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:01 am
by Entaro
yea I usually back your projects with the largest (non-monsterbox) tier and noticed the price was significantly higher... Went back and looked at the tier offerings and price and this is like $100 more than the average for the last few campaigns ($247 USD) and most of those offered more decks as part of the tier reward as well
Poison ($343 USD) - 4x 3 Decks, Coin, Extras
Last 5 Campaigns:
Galaxia ($252 USD) - 5x 3 Decks, Brick Box, Coin, Extras
Tales ($228 USD) - 5x 3 Decks, Brick Box, Coin, Extras
Italia ($235 USD) - 5x 3 Decks, Extras
Modern Idols ($241 USD) - 4x 4 Decks, Extras
Order ($281 USD) - 6x 3 Decks, Extras
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:59 am
by Bradius
I'll just have to go for one set this time. All of of the brick sets are long gone anyway. I do get that production and especially shipping costs are going through the roof right now. When I got to the campaign there were 200 backers in the short time it took me to pick and back a tier I ended up backer 207. I know, I am such a shame to badpete
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:21 am
by masagin303
Bradius wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:59 am
I'll just have to go for one set this time. All of of the brick sets are long gone anyway. I do get that production and especially shipping costs are going through the roof right now. When I got to the campaign there were 200 backers in the short time it took me to pick and back a tier I ended up backer 207. I know, I am such a shame to badpete
There's one Monsterbox left ATM.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:33 am
by Bradius
There's one Monsterbox left ATM.
I am sure it is great, but I need an extra mixed TWI brick like a hole in the head...
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:41 am
by Cardamon
1 left often means none left but ks bugging out as usual.
I went with a trident myself because I’ve been spending a lot and need to chill out.
But yeah one of those mixed bricks? It’s looking really tempting. Though I already have the peacock
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:17 am
by Thirdway Industries
For everyone that missed the boxes (Venefica and Atropa) - I've opened some more slots
@Entaro
The reason of the increased cost of the Venefica Box (compared to other boxes released previously) is that it includes x4 Gilded decks and x4 foil-on-back limited decks.
So far I've never offered so many gilded in the same tier
Hope this helps!
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:34 am
by Bradius
Though I already have the peacock
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Just one peacock?
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:10 pm
by STLBluesNut
ive not gotten my peacok yet =(.
Love the poison deck, just like all of Gio's designs. i am a bit disappointed that the courts are the same on all 3 decks. just colors are different. obviously the tucks are different as well and the jokers are different. normally, the courts are all completely different between versions. except maybe a gilded version of one of the decks. i dropped from getting the 3 to just the 2. i don't really need a gilded version of the aspis deck. i think it is great that the KS limited deck actually has more available than slots available instead of doing say 888 decks for 1700 backers.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:48 pm
by Thirdway Industries
STLBluesNut wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:10 pm
ive not gotten my peacok yet =(.
Love the poison deck, just like all of Gio's designs. i am a bit disappointed that the courts are the same on all 3 decks. just colors are different. obviously the tucks are different as well and the jokers are different. normally, the courts are all completely different between versions. except maybe a gilded version of one of the decks. i dropped from getting the 3 to just the 2. i don't really need a gilded version of the aspis deck. i think it is great that the KS limited deck actually has more available than slots available instead of doing say 888 decks for 1700 backers.
About Peacock, if you are a Yearly Patron, please write me via Patreon and I'll check what is happened. If you are a monthly Patron, it's normal, Peacock is the reward of Oct/Nov/Dec and I'll ship it next month, alongside Monolith Sagittarius.
This project is a bit different than others - it was born to be a "simple" Patreon deck, but it grown on me and I've decided to turn it into a Kickstarter "last minute". Probably the next project will be more similar than the others I've did in the past (with fully custom courts).
I am not sure about the part on the availability of Kingslayer
There should be less than 888 Kingslayer available and less than 600 backers slots in total. I admit I have unlocked some rewards without counting the exact number, but from tomorrow I'll count accurately and I'll lock some rewards
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:46 pm
by STLBluesNut
i know i wont be getting peacock for a bit i cant wait to see it in person.
the comment about 888 decks was not directed to you. i appreciate you making enough available for all. it was a comment about other campaigns knowingly make a number so limited that not all of their backers will be able to get one.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:35 pm
by Thirdway Industries
STLBluesNut wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:46 pm
i know i wont be getting peacock for a bit i cant wait to see it in person.
the comment about 888 decks was not directed to you. i appreciate you making enough available for all. it was a comment about other campaigns knowingly make a number so limited that not all of their backers will be able to get one.
Perfect! I wanted to be sure that was were good with Peacock patreon reward
Ah! I understood now about the limited numbers - I did my best to keep the campaign fair for everyone.
The "unannounced launch" and the rewards opened randomly are working pretty well, but if it will continue like this, there will be someone that won't be able to get a Kingslayer (or their desired reward).
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:59 pm
by Bradius
Where is my glow in the dark poison plushie toy???
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:07 pm
by Thirdway Industries
Bradius wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:59 pm
Where is my glow in the dark poison plushie toy???
Perfect addon, I would say
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:07 pm
by STLBluesNut
Bradius wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:59 pm
Where is my glow in the dark poison plushie toy???
ohhh that's an add on i havent seen yet. we need a cute character deck with a plushie set. or maybe some .stl files that we can print out little figures.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:13 pm
by Cardamon
My peacock is stuck in customs atm.
And yes Bradius just the one you nutty squirrel
Also loving the campaign gio. Smooth operation so far. Just hoping the double brick tier locks before my greed overpowers my better judgment
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:05 pm
by Bradius
Yeah, I had a closer look at that monster box brick set and it really does have some nice decks included. I am find though (as I sit on my hands to keep from changing my tier...again). I'm now in for two of each.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:13 pm
by Cardamon
Bradius wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:05 pm
Yeah, I had a closer look at that monster box brick set and it really does have some nice decks included. I am find though (as I sit on my hands to keep from changing my tier...again). I'm now in for two of each.
I saw it sold out completely.
Felt a sting of missed chance.
Then it came free again and I caved.
My bank account won’t enjoy it but I will
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:21 pm
by hsbc
Bradius wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:05 pm
Yeah, I had a closer look at that monster box brick set and it really does have some nice decks included.
For posterity...
The MonsterBox contains a Poison Brick (including all extras unlocked during and post campaign) plus a brick of rare Thirdway Industries decks as listed below:
Egoism Peacock (value $120!)
Conquerors Justitia (value $120!)
Monolith Singularity (value $65)
Monolith Horizon(value $65)
Legendary Tales (value $55)
Infernal Anima EX (value $100)
Pantheon Caelum (value $100)
Project BM (value $25)
Apocalisse ($65)
Apoteosi ($70)
Italia Divina ($55)
Order Electus ($55)
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:14 pm
by Eric Lee
After an overabundance of recent big, complicated and expensive KS campaigns, it's really nice to see something so straightforward and simple. Find the tier you like, click on it. No fuss, no mess.
It would be very cool to have a PDF booklet released to reveal more of Trayer's story if a stretch goal is met. Such a twist .
*redacted*
Love the way you set up the story behind these decks so well. There's a Netflix TV series right there.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:20 pm
by Bikefanatic
A Belladonna deck might be good enough for me but could go for all three.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:57 pm
by Sir Toddalot
hsbc wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:21 pm
Bradius wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:05 pm
Yeah, I had a closer look at that monster box brick set and it really does have some nice decks included.
For posterity...
The MonsterBox contains a Poison Brick (including all extras unlocked during and post campaign) plus a brick of rare Thirdway Industries decks as listed below:
Egoism Peacock (value $120!)
Conquerors Justitia (value $120!)
Monolith Singularity (value $65)
Monolith Horizon(value $65)
Legendary Tales (value $55)
Infernal Anima EX (value $100)
Pantheon Caelum (value $100)
Project BM (value $25)
Apocalisse ($65)
Apoteosi ($70)
Italia Divina ($55)
Order Electus ($55)
Definitely an amazing set. For sure the best he’s ever offered. It’s hard to resist the temptation to get it, but I already have too many of all of those decks. And my wallet would hate me. We’ll see if I can hold out until the end.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:32 am
by laitostarr777
I am surprised that this campaign is only lasts for 7 days
Like, wha.... I know that most KS campaigns from celebrated creators eventually always funded on first day, but the funding period that only opens for 7 days, that is something. Gio, I am guessing that you already have the decks ready so that it is short time period
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:42 am
by Cardamon
They are limited edition. And I guess he can sell what he needs to. I kinda like this short term. And the monster box.
Now i just need to get some galaxia
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:37 am
by Thirdway Industries
@Eric Lee -
haha thank you, that was exactly how Poison was planned. Pick the reward you want, eventually add Coin/Uncut sheets and that's it. I will do more simple campaigns like this, probably easier both for me and the backers.
I am planning to publish the story of Poison, maybe on Patreon (if I'll do, of course also backers would get it).
And yes, there is a strong link between Poison, Order, Black Market and Galaxia - you basically revealed it.
I am evaluating to do a TWI "Big Book" that includes all the hints, the secrets and the stories of all decks. It will be very long and I will need assistance by a professional writer since my Ita-english is too basic to write proper books.
@Bikefanatic - Belladonna is not bundled
You can get it on its own if you want to. Only Kingslayer needs to be included with the other two.
@laitostarr777 - The decks are not ready, but the production started almost 2 months ago. If all goes well (considering that winter is the worst moment to produce, everyone is rushing for holidays) the decks might be ready for early 2022. I'm hoping that, actually.
I love short campaigns, people who like what I do usually pledge during the very first days, so it's pointless make too long campaigns. I'm also very impatient, too
@Caardamon - Wait Black Friday for Galaxia. It will be the "main" release and prices will be similar to KS campaign.
FYI there won't be new TWI decks released for Black Friday, Poison is enough for this year.
Thanks to everyone for the awesome support on Poison, I really appreciate that!
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:46 am
by Cardamon
Thirdway Industries wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:37 am:
@Caardamon - Wait Black Friday for Galaxia. It will be the "main" release and prices will be similar to KS campaign.
Well between order and galaxia I’ll be waiting
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:13 am
by Harvonsgard
Thirdway Industries wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:37 am
I am evaluating to do a TWI "Big Book" that includes all the hints, the secrets and the stories of all decks. It will be very long and I will need assistance by a professional writer since my Ita-english is too basic to write proper books.
I have to admit that after Modern Idols I didn't get any TWI decks anymore - and even those I sold because I grew tired of them and the premium ed. weren't unfortunately up to the quality I'm used to from TWI.
The art styles are just too similar in general for my taste so, I'm more than satisfied with the awesome TWI decks I own. Not a knock btw. just my reasoning why I funnel my limited funds to other artists currently.
A book about your lore/mythology that would most certainly persway me to put some funds towards TWI again though; especially if I you approach it similar to your tuck boxes aka exquisite materials - I certainly would love it to be a premium hardcover.
Just don't do diffraction (holo) gilded edges - everything else I'm fine with, haha.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:44 pm
by Cardamon
That’s my luck @harvonsgard
I’m new to the hobby. So these are my first twi decks.
Also I love these storytelling decks and style
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:11 pm
by Thirdway Industries
Finally, for the first time, Poison is a Kickstarter "Project we love".
Not sure why, but this made my day, I'm attempting to get this achievement since 2015
FYI "Tridents" and "Monsterboxes" are sold out, so I've unlocked few more "late" tiers.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:59 pm
by Bradius
Finally, for the first time, Poison is a Kickstarter "Project we love".
Not sure why, but this made my day, I'm attempting to get this achievement since 2015
Knowing the folks at Kickstarter, it was the butt crack on the campaign image. You typically showcase other assets. They have unique taste. It is surprising though you have never made "Projects We Love" before now.
Re: TWI Poison by John B. Trayer
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:00 pm
by STLBluesNut
Thirdway Industries wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:11 pm
Finally, for the first time, Poison is a Kickstarter "Project we love".
Congrats!