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Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.10.31UPDATE!)
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:44 am
by vasta41
The only accusations going on here are towards me. All I did was ask DeakIdea a question and say "buyer beware" which seems to have been misconstrued. I'll elaborate: I never said DeckIdea ripped Natalia off, doesn't deliver decks, communicate with people, etc. Careful not to put words in my mouth. I have seen DeckIdea's Instagram and there's a lot of very nice artwork on it. Artwork that has obviously been done by more than one artist. I'm assuming DeckIdea isn't the artist of this deck (maybe others?) but rather the producer, especially since A) the artist is not mentioned on the project page and B) because in the OP he said he's "releasing" a Christmas-themed deck. So I'd like to know who the artist is. It's a simple question. Why do I think it could be Natalia? I certainty have no proof (which is why I'm not calling for DeckIdea's banishment or anything like that) but here are some facts that back up my hunch:
FACT #1: Natalia has drawn multiple Christmas-themed decks and this one has enough similarities in design IMO
FACT #2: Since Natalia has stopped communicating with everyone, her deck designs have been featured on several KS campaigns as recently as 1 year ago
FACT #3: DeckIdea has not credited anyone for illustrating this deck
It could very well be possible that DeckIdea has no knowledge of Natalia or of her scamming nature. But it could also be possible that her artwork was purchased for the product. If I'm wrong then again, I would like to know who the artist was for this deck. Otherwise, if she is still receiving money to draw without having fulfilled her previous campaigns then I find that to be appalling. And I would not support someone who does that, hence the "buyer beware" warning. Which was widely misinterpreted so maybe it was a tad too harsh. I'm not saying that because I think DeckIdea is a scammer or anything of the like. But until the artist of this deck is truly discovered, I stand by my statement. Because Natalia should not profit off of anyone.
Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.10.31UPDATE!)
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:07 am
by deckidea
vasta41 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:44 am
The only accusations going on here are towards me. All I did was ask DeakIdea a question and say "buyer beware" which seems to have been misconstrued. I'll elaborate: I never said DeckIdea ripped Natalia off, doesn't deliver decks, communicate with people, etc. Careful not to put words in my mouth. I have seen DeckIdea's Instagram and there's a lot of very nice artwork on it. Artwork that has obviously been done by more than one artist. I'm assuming DeckIdea isn't the artist of this deck (maybe others?) but rather the producer, especially since A) the artist is not mentioned on the project page and B) because in the OP he said he's "releasing" a Christmas-themed deck. So I'd like to know who the artist is. It's a simple question. Why do I think it could be Natalia? I certainty have no proof (which is why I'm not calling for DeckIdea's banishment or anything like that) but here are some facts that back up my hunch:
FACT #1: Natalia has drawn multiple Christmas-themed decks and this one has enough similarities in design IMO
FACT #2: Since Natalia has stopped communicating with everyone, her deck designs have been featured on several KS campaigns as recently as 1 year ago
FACT #3: DeckIdea has not credited anyone for illustrating this deck
It could very well be possible that DeckIdea has no knowledge of Natalia or of her scamming nature. But it could also be possible that her artwork was purchased for the product. If I'm wrong then again, I would like to know who the artist was for this deck. Otherwise, if she is still receiving money to draw without having fulfilled her previous campaigns then I find that to be appalling. And I would not support someone who does that, hence the "buyer beware" warning. Which was widely misinterpreted so maybe it was a tad too harsh. I'm not saying that because I think DeckIdea is a scammer or anything of the like. But until the artist of this deck is truly discovered, I stand by my statement. Because Natalia should not profit off of
anyone.
"Artwork that has obviously been done by more than one artist."..............
I do have plans to release deck that was drawn by other artist BUT
all the decks I have released so far under the Deckidea Brand was illustrated by myself...
Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.10.31UPDATE!)
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:18 am
by vasta41
I guess I don't really know how instagram works but I saw many different designs on your page. If you did in fact draw all that then bravo! You have a very diverse style which is not common. I find it odd that you wouldn't advertise that here or on the KS page but to each their own I guess.
As I said before, I am bias and my eye still cannot unsee a similarity to Natalia's work. I obviously have no proof but how can I call you a liar? If you say you drew this deck then I believe you and retract my "buyer beware" statement.
Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.10.31UPDATE!)
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:13 pm
by sjrosenfield
buyer definitely don’t beware buying from Jason. He is a well known designer and contributor in our community and has created and fulfilled plenty of decks with no issues. So if you like the deck, definitely purchase with no worries.
Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.10.31UPDATE!)
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:11 am
by jerichoholic
Ugh feels like it has Natalia Silva written all over it, sorry.
Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.10.31UPDATE!)
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:06 pm
by Harvonsgard
As always, perception is a choice. People see what they wanna see. If some folks wanna see Natalia in this artwork then let them chase ghosts. Some are just haunted by the past, not your fault Jason.
Congrats on being funded.
Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.10.31UPDATE!)
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:37 pm
by Smocito
I've always liked Natalia's decks.
I'd really like if she could fulfill previous campaigns and try to regain people's trust.
If its her drawings and if somehow that helps her fulfill previous projects, I have no problems with that.
Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.11.03-UPDATE!)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:01 am
by deckidea
As mentioned previously, I would like to have the decks and tuck completed as soon as possible. That way, we can ship out orders as soon as they come in from USPCC. The Red Tuck-boxes are now completed, and on its way to Murphy's Warehouse!
Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.11.03-UPDATE!)
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:14 am
by Pablo393
I see that Oakland, CA FedEx location and it gets me interested in this deck. I will have to go check it out now.
Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.11.03-UPDATE!)
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:58 am
by Decknowledgy
Received in Scotland with no issue.
Re: "12 Days of Xmas" The Christmas deck of 2020! (2020.11.03-UPDATE!)
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:14 am
by deckidea
Decknowledgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:58 am
Received in Scotland with no issue.
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Thank you so much for your support! and I hope you like it
