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Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:59 pm
by sms69x
sms69x wrote:I like the style, and it seems that you put a lot of effort in it! Very well done.
Just a mistake I spotted, maybe you already corrected it, but the two short sleeves are different:
InkedKWP Robin Hood Little John_LI.jpg
On the video there is the same mistake! Will this be corrected, or is it a feature!

Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:09 pm
by JacksonRobinson
sms69x wrote:sms69x wrote:I like the style, and it seems that you put a lot of effort in it! Very well done.
Just a mistake I spotted, maybe you already corrected it, but the two short sleeves are different:
InkedKWP Robin Hood Little John_LI.jpg
On the video there is the same mistake! Will this be corrected, or is it a feature!

It's totally a feature...

Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:57 pm
by portcullis
I remembered the third question I wanted to ask.
Is is possible, as a subscriber, to create back orders?
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck (wap)
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:43 am
by Bradius
For questions on sales and orders, I suggest emailing Nick our Kings Wild in general. There are some extras that are first offered to subscribers at a discount, after a few weeks, then they go on sale to everyone at a slightly higher price. However, your question may be more specific. If so, best ask Nick it the crew in general. However, you can modify your subscription before the next month, and save on combined shipping with your regular subscription.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck (wap)
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:03 am
by portcullis
Bradius wrote:For questions on sales and orders, I suggest emailing Nick our Kings Wild in general. There are some extras that are first offered to subscribers at a discount, after a few weeks, then they go on sale to everyone at a slightly higher price. However, your question may be more specific. If so, best ask Nick it the crew in general. However, you can modify your subscription before the next month, and save on combined shipping with your regular subscription.
I'm not signed up just yet (waiting for payday) but I will take the advice. Thanks Brad.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:19 pm
by Räpylätassu
This is looking great!
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:38 pm
by JacksonRobinson
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:43 pm
by Bradius
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:17 pm
by EvilDuncan
That tuck makes me want him to make a line of decks based on other such stories, each with book-style tuckboxes.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:46 pm
by hsbc
Is that tuck going to be by Clove St.? Will the limited and gilded be just a recolor or more detailed?

Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:59 am
by Bradius
How about the limited and guilded printed by Lotrek in silk with foil!

Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck (wap)
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:24 am
by LasVegasCards
That tuck is insane. And it's standard lol.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:25 am
by MSimonart
EvilDuncan wrote:That tuck makes me want him to make a line of decks based on other such stories, each with book-style tuckboxes.
I love the book-based tucks. Reminds me of one of the 'expert at the card table' decks (btw, if someone knows a good retziler for these decks in europe, I'm in), which also had a book-lookalike tuck. I have to admit, these kind of tucks often look better on picture then in hand. Still, I'd love the idea. You can have a whole lot of fantasy themed books translated in cards. I'm wondering, is something lile robin hood copyright protected? You could print as many decks as there are pages in the book and have each ad card be 1 page. This is such a bad idea... I'm sure with a little more thought there could be some good ideas. I'm already envisioning a small bookshelf with all of these tucks, pictures would look like an actual bookshelf with books. Only it's miniatured in real life. And then you'd have to pull one of the 'books' to open the secret passage to your full cards collection. Make this the next theory11 black friday wheel 'instant collection' prize. I'd empty their warehouse to win this

Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:32 am
by Decknowledgy
MSimonart wrote:EvilDuncan wrote:That tuck makes me want him to make a line of decks based on other such stories, each with book-style tuckboxes.
I love the book-based tucks. Reminds me of one of the 'expert at the card table' decks (btw,
if someone knows a good retziler for these decks in europe, I'm in), which also had a book-lookalike tuck.
You mean this one?
https://spielkartenshop.com/The-Expert- ... ds-Black_1

Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:32 am
by MSimonart
Decknowledgy wrote:MSimonart wrote:EvilDuncan wrote:That tuck makes me want him to make a line of decks based on other such stories, each with book-style tuckboxes.
I love the book-based tucks. Reminds me of one of the 'expert at the card table' decks (btw,
if someone knows a good retziler for these decks in europe, I'm in), which also had a book-lookalike tuck.
You mean this one?
https://spielkartenshop.com/The-Expert- ... ds-Black_1

These indeed, thanks for that

Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:53 am
by EvilDuncan
MSimonart wrote:Decknowledgy wrote:MSimonart wrote:EvilDuncan wrote:That tuck makes me want him to make a line of decks based on other such stories, each with book-style tuckboxes.
I love the book-based tucks. Reminds me of one of the 'expert at the card table' decks (btw,
if someone knows a good retziler for these decks in europe, I'm in), which also had a book-lookalike tuck.
You mean this one?
https://spielkartenshop.com/The-Expert- ... ds-Black_1

This texture would be really nice. I don't think I would want it very much if it was just smooth.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:51 pm
by Harvonsgard
MSimonart wrote:I'm wondering, is something lile robin hood copyright protected?
Good lord, of course not. Folk tales, legends and mythology can't be copyrighted.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:15 am
by portcullis
*puts lawyer cap on*
I'll explain this as simply as I can. Mythology as a corpus can't be copyrighted. Humanity's been talking about it far too long for any kind of telltale identifications of a "creator" to be made. However, iterations of characters -- through various media -- can be copyrighted.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:59 am
by Outsider
It's not even that complicated. Robin Hood has been around for centuries, longer than any copyright law expiration, and no clear author can even be attributed his creation. Individual representations of him or works based on him can be copyrighted, such as Disney's portrayal as an anthropomorphic fox, or this deck of cards; those copyrights will eventually expire as well.
Obviously mythologies can be copyrighted. Tolkien's work forms a pretty coherent mythology, still under copyright. Also Scientology, which at least takes itself seriously as a religion, has a mythology that is still copyrighted.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:24 am
by guru
Outsider wrote:Also Scientology, which at least takes itself seriously as a religion, has a mythology that is still copyrighted.
Opens his notes and adds Scientology under the long list of Mythologies still not read. Closes the app and says 'thank you @Outsider'.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:31 am
by portcullis
Outsider wrote:It's not even that complicated. Robin Hood has been around for centuries, longer than any copyright law expiration, and no clear author can even be attributed his creation. Individual representations of him or works based on him can be copyrighted, such as Disney's portrayal as an anthropomorphic fox, or this deck of cards; those copyrights will eventually expire as well.
Obviously mythologies can be copyrighted. Tolkien's work forms a pretty coherent mythology, still under copyright. Also Scientology, which at least takes itself seriously as a religion, has a mythology that is still copyrighted.
But both those mythologies you reference are the scholarly pursuit and extension of literary works -- which can be copyrighted -- not the oral history of humankind.
As I said and you reinforced, iterations of characters can be copyrighted and yes there are accepted literary versions of the wider mythological corpus, which invariably fall into the purview of copyright, but nobody can trace these tales through a millennium of more of history to an identifiable creator. Thus no copyright.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:51 pm
by Outsider
portcullis wrote:But both those mythologies you reference are the scholarly pursuit and extension of literary works -- which can be copyrighted -- not the oral history of humankind.
As I said and you reinforced, iterations of characters can be copyrighted and yes there are accepted literary versions of the wider mythological corpus, which invariably fall into the purview of copyright, but nobody can trace these tales through a millennium of more of history to an identifiable creator. Thus no copyright.
It really has nothing to do with being mythology or folk legend. Countless works which are now public domain and widely regarded as mythology or folk tales were in fact created by an identifiable author who did enjoy copyright in his lifetime. What you call literature today becomes folk legend and myth in the future after entering public domain, especially if derivative works become popular.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it makes no difference that Robin Hood has no identifiable creator or is legend or whatever you want to call it, because the millennium of time is the only relevant part. JR could make a deck based on Chaucer's Canterbury Tales or any of the works of Shakespeare without genericizing it at all and it would be a-ok despite there being an identified author, because the works in question are centuries past copyright expiration.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:39 pm
by Harvonsgard
The best part of this thread is hands down the deck presented but the second best part is the knowledge that Scientology bullocks is protected by copyright law

. Makes sense though; both is equally ridiculous.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:36 pm
by Bradius
The question I have is who would want to copy Scientology?
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:32 am
by Harvonsgard
Bradius wrote:The question I have is who would want to copy Scientology?
Other Science-Fiction authors maybe!?
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:21 am
by Eric Lee
That's the STANDARD tuck? I can only imagine what's the LE version of the tuck. Something similar to Exaclibur?
We get all of that for $15, $12 if you're a sub. And people wonder some of us here are so jaded on KS projects. We're so spoilt.

Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:25 am
by Harvonsgard
I guess Eric has seen the instagram post as well

. Cool idea. I'd love to see it with the whole design on it.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:38 am
by wingedpotato
I have not been sad about not having a 2020 shorts sub until now. This deck is gonna be gorgeous top to bottom.
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:24 pm
by Sembero

<3
Re: Robin Hood by KWP - Sept2020 Shorts deck
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:43 am
by Eric Lee
Harvonsgard wrote:I guess Eric has seen the instagram post as well

. Cool idea. I'd love to see it with the whole design on it.
Yes, I did, but it's all white. Let's see what crazy design touches JR puts on that to top the Standard. 2020's so far looking like it's JR's year for DoTY unless of course his decks all split the votes.
Lotrek's Crypt will be hard pressed to win as only the buyers will get a chance to see its beauty and photos can't be posted for fear of the Greek Assassin putting his curse on the foolish one.
