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yawwnnssss boring, i see these going on the market for obscenely high prices in the near future. Not the least interested, good call by JP on how these will be released.

Color changes are one thing, but the whole "these were never supposed to be released to the public/from this dude's personal stash" line is getting pretty old now too.

walrus wrote:Anyone know what mechanic is about. I am trying to watch the video but it keeps cutting out.

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walrus wrote: If the effect is good I might get it.

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walrus wrote: I haven't ordered any magic in a while

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found this http://www.ellusionist.com/red-rounder- ... dison.html

I know it's a long shot but I might b the DVD to get the deck...Not interested in the DVD would sell it at 50% off if someone wants it...Let me know by PM

Bought the DVD to get the two decks. Any one interested in the DVD for a discount?

Is the DVD up for sale? I thought it was going on sale only tomorrow

badpete69 wrote:Is the DVD up for sale? I thought it was going on sale only tomorrow

For Black Club members it is up now.

Ah yes the club I forget about that...How much is the DVD going for?

badpete69 wrote:Ah yes the club I forget about that...How much is the DVD going for?

Maybe this link will work:

http://www.ellusionist.com/the-mechanic ... t+Rounders

Price it says on the page: WAS $79.90 IS $59.99

Can one of you tell me what kind of magic is on the DVD

The magical kind? hehehe

walrus wrote:Can one of you tell me what kind of magic is on the DVD

FULL OVERVIEW

Watch every move very, very carefully.
This is a lifetime of information, acquired the hard way.


Mechanic is taught by a man who walked a fine line between death and payday every time he picked up a deck of cards. When each move could be the difference between a five thousand dollar pot and smashed-in knee caps, you get pretty good at recognising and using techniques proven to work, and remain undiscovered.


All Orders made for Mechanic before July 31st will receive 1 of just 2500 never-to-be-sold Scarlet Rounders from Daniel Madison's personal collection.

Black Club Members will receive Two Decks with the FIRST 100 orders receiving a SIGNED Scarlet Deck.


This DVD set is a unique treatise on the techniques used by Daniel Madison to put food on his table for years, as a professional card cheat caught up in the underground circles of London's criminal underbelly.

Every day and every dollar made it harder to get out of the racket he fell into - until a simple slip at the table took the decision out of his hands - and nearly cost him his life.


In the weeks in hospital it took him to recover, Madison made the conscious decision to shift from card mechanic to Deception Artist. Now a reformed card cheat, Daniel meticulously teaches the handling, dexterity and psychology of deception with playing cards, step by step.


Over three hours of invaluable advice, theory and method taught by a man in the unique position to have lived the life, each move seized from the cold school of experience.


Daniel learnt the hard way so you don't have to. Add Mechanic to your cart NOW and learn from his experience.



Disclaimer: This is not a DVD on Card Tricks. This is detailed teaching of the actual skills used to illegally and unethically win money in illicit card games through the use of cheating. As study of this material has the potential to turn you into a successful card cheat, we must ask that any use of these techniques at the card table be for entertainment purposes only. Neither Daniel Madison nor Ellusionist can be held responsible for the consequences of cheating or unlawful gambling.

Seems like a really good deal as long as the DVD isn't super expensive.

Hey thanks for the info Sam. Doesn't really sound like my type of magic but it would be something different.

walrus wrote:Hey thanks for the info Sam. Doesn't really sound like my type of magic but it would be something different.

Yeah, if you were giving away sardines with the DVD, he would be in.

Thanks!

Sardines, mmmmmmmmmmm

First 100 orders gets 2 Scarlet Rounders.
Not too bad with the Black Club discount, plus I like the DVD subject matter.

Sharpie wrote:First 100 orders gets 2 Scarlet Rounders.
Not too bad with the Black Club discount, plus I like the DVD subject matter.

You still get another non signed Scarlet Rounders even after the 100 orders limit, btw this limit is now reached!

This actually doesn't seem too bad of a deal, if you're into that sort of thing. If you wanna learn some good card slights, this looks like a good place to start- and get a "free" deck. I just hope they don't rape you with shipping.
On another note, E should do part-time work hyping things. If I ever need anything hyped, I would hire them. I bet they're the ones who sold Jack his beans.

I don't know if I want to drop sixty bucks on a DVD that doesmy sound that interesting. I'll probably wait for some reviews.

walrus wrote:I don't know if I want to drop sixty bucks on a DVD that doesmy sound that interesting. I'll probably wait for some reviews.

$60 is the SALE price - "regularly" $80.
I dunno - I like the subject matter, but I just don't like Madison. It feels like getting lessons from the Ed Norton character in "Rounders".
Passing for now - looking forwards to the reviews (considering at least 100 copies sold to BC members, there should be some posted soon enough....)

I thought this was a presale that ships early next month?

Wildereachday wrote:I thought this was a presale that ships early next month?

That was my understanding as well, all a presale that won't ship until the end of July. I'm still not positive if I want to plunk down the money to help fund a former con's pockets (if one's to believe the back story) though learning the tricks of the trade would be pretty cool.

chach wrote:

Wildereachday wrote:I thought this was a presale that ships early next month?

That was my understanding as well, all a presale that won't ship until the end of July. I'm still not positive if I want to plunk down the money to help fund a former con's pockets (if one's to believe the back story) though learning the tricks of the trade would be pretty cool.

Yeah it is a presale that will ship at the end of the month, if you buy it before then you get one of Madison's Red Rounders as a gift. A deck that will never be sold to the public.... oooooo ahhhhh special

Or, you can just wait until E has another sooper dooper special.

samwisethegray wrote:

chach wrote:

Wildereachday wrote:I thought this was a presale that ships early next month?

Yeah it is a presale that will ship at the end of the month, if you buy it before then you get one of Madison's Red Rounders as a gift. A deck that will never be sold to the public.... oooooo ahhhhh special

Looking at E website now and it looks like the Red Rounders will be sold for $50 a deck... although when you click on that there is no "Add to cart " button

Well... so much for this statement...

"we're officially announcing the existence of 2500 never-to-be-sold Scarlet Rounders"

I see Ellusionist is lying as usual.

That's why I don't jump on their initial offerings. E is famous for this kind of stuff. I like E's products, the LTD is still my favorite deck but I don't care for their misleading marketing. Perhaps the DVD didn't sell as well as they hoped or perhaps they planned this all along. Either way, I have no problem passing on this deck.