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Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 Trailer
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:04 am
by AlvarezPt
Harvonsgard wrote:AlvarezPt wrote:I dont get whats up with USPC.
My educated guess is, they simply print and produce faster due to the higher demand of custom playing cards.
If you take higher tolerances than the maschine stops less and you have less waste. Two things that save you a lot of money. The cards get bought anyways, and even after it became a meme, USPC couldn't care less until the producers themself e.g. Chris voice their concern and threaten them to pull their orders.
Hopefully artists start to complain then :/
Adonael wrote:Rather than get a V3 I finally caved after all this time (I just can't deny how well-executed the design is) and got a V2 during Black Friday for less than a V3, I'm happy with my choice. Didn't realise the tuck stock was somewhat soft-touch, it feels very nice, are the V3's the same?
Yes. And now there's also embossing on the leafs. I believe he talked about it on the review he made on his channel.
And damn, I wish I found some cheaper V2s as well, really want some more, but they are too expensive rn..
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 Trailer
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:06 am
by SirCrunoke
I have some V2's in spare and I can trade or sell some of them.
Would be around the normal price back then plus shipping from Germany.
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 Trailer
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:18 pm
by RelativityCards
USPCC will tighten the tolerances for $.25 per deck, as of a conversation I had with them back in April. If you put anything within 3/32 (I think!) of the edge without bleeding it off, it's a mandatory charge.
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 Trailer
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:22 am
by Harvonsgard
RelativityCards wrote:USPCC will tighten the tolerances for $.25 per deck, as of a conversation I had with them back in April. If you put anything within 3/32 (I think!) of the edge without bleeding it off, it's a mandatory charge.
What does that mean? Are we talking about borders on
Taiwan-(A+)-level then? Or are we talking about acceptable borders?
Kind of a pity that USPC doesn't have the aspiration to have good borders.
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 Trailer
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:51 am
by RelativityCards
Harvonsgard wrote:RelativityCards wrote:USPCC will tighten the tolerances for $.25 per deck, as of a conversation I had with them back in April. If you put anything within 3/32 (I think!) of the edge without bleeding it off, it's a mandatory charge.
What does that mean? Are we talking about borders on
Taiwan-(A+)-level then? Or are we talking about acceptable borders?
Kind of a pity that USPC doesn't have the aspiration to have good borders.
I haven't done it myself, so I'm not sure. But if you put anything within 3/32 of the edge that doesn't continue off the edge of the card, they won't do it unless you pay extra. I'm not sure how much more accuracy that buys you
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 Trailer
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:36 am
by Harvonsgard
Seems like Chris didn't pay the -,25$ extra... like seriously wtf! Working in the print industry myself, I could never justify to give a product like that to a customer.
USPC is now officially a B-class printer for me.
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 Trailer
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:31 am
by RandyButterfield
Harvonsgard wrote:Seems like Chris didn't pay the -,25$ extra... like seriously wtf! Working in the print industry myself, I could never justify to give a product like that to a customer.
USPC is now officially a B-class printer for me.
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Yep! That’s the number one reason I never print with USPCC for any of my non-freelance Decks.
The number two reason is their lawyers. Every Honeybee project involved some other new thing we couldn’t do, or new Legal copy to implement...
EDIT - I forgot about the number three reason I choose not to print with USPCC - the dreaded 10% overages on the print quantity you ordered.
Thanks, Randy
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 Trailer
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:41 pm
by RelativityCards
Wow, that is
egregious 
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 - The new Bicycle Seconds?
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:19 am
by vasta41
It's funny, the T11 Star Wars decks (at least the 2 I opened) registered perfectly. And the borders are quite thin, by USPCC standards anyway. Why the difference? Hmmm
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 - The new Bicycle Seconds?
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:46 am
by Harvonsgard
vasta41 wrote:It's funny, the T11 Star Wars decks (at least the 2 I opened) registered perfectly. And the borders are quite thin, by USPCC standards anyway. Why the difference? Hmmm
That is the annoying part of it. We know that they are able to if they want to...
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 - The new Bicycle Seconds?
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:52 am
by vasta41
Harvonsgard wrote:vasta41 wrote:It's funny, the T11 Star Wars decks (at least the 2 I opened) registered perfectly. And the borders are quite thin, by USPCC standards anyway. Why the difference? Hmmm
That is the annoying part of it. We know that they are able to if they want to...
I wish we knew the inner workings. Did USPCC send Chris a demo for approval and he approved it even though the registration was off? Maybe not but I really wonder what goes on.
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 - The new Bicycle Seconds?
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:12 am
by Harvonsgard
I doubt that USPC send him demos like this.
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 - The new Bicycle Seconds?
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:15 pm
by RelativityCards
Harvonsgard wrote:I doubt that USPC send him demos like this.
USPC doesn't send demos at all. You get a print out of an uncut sheet printed by a superlarge inkjet printer on totally different paper. Still useful for catching design errors, but does nothing for registration issues.
Harvonsgard wrote:That is the annoying part of it. We know that they are able to if they want to...
Think Disney would stand for anything less? USPC and T11
both need to impress them.
Re: Chris Ramsay 1st V3 - The new Bicycle Seconds?
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:58 pm
by Harvonsgard
RelativityCards wrote:Harvonsgard wrote:Think Disney would stand for anything less? USPC and T11 both need to impress them.
Seems not like that is the case. While not as bad as some 1st V3 posts. I saw this post below on reddit today. Not close to perfect for my taste, but maybe this is just a bad egg and the rest of the Star Wars decks are indeed good.
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