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Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:15 pm
by BMPokerworld
RSLancastr wrote:Order placed!
I am excited to see what 17 decks I will get - it will be like a late (or extremely early) Christmas!
Thanks!!! You got the last one!!!
Thanks!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:48 pm
by chess
BMPokerworld wrote:
Glad you like it. These type of "amazing deals" are a big loss for me. We paid somewhere between $4,000 - $6,000 for these decks and will only receive a little over a $1,000 after fees. As far as returning damaged decks, the answer is yes and no. When we have a huge amount of damage, such as the faith deck, (I think over a gross and a half were damaged due to their horrendous packing job and those were one of the decks replaced.), We send them back. But if the decks were packed well from our supplier and we only have a few, say 3 or 4 per gross, then we tend not to ask for replacements and just consider it the cost of doing business. How they pack their decks is very important in my decision to send them back or not. There is only so much anyone can do and damage will always be part of doing business in playing cards. If you complain about every single slightly damaged deck, then no one would do business with you and to tell you the truth, I wouldn't do business with one of my wholesale partners if they constantly complained about a few decks per gross. Of course if it was say, Gold Arcanes, Black Ghost First Editions or decks like that, then it would be different.
The reason I end up with a lot of damaged decks is two-fold. One, we are very picky about what decks we send out and two, we buy most of our items in multiple grosses. That means if we buy 3 gross of something, we could end up with 3 or 4 damage per gross or somewhere between 9-12 damaged decks per wholesale order. So as you can see, based on our buying volume, damaged decks can add up quickly. I donated probably another 500 decks +/- to different charities already, including to Don Boyer for the hospital he supports. I hope this answers your question.
Thanks!
That is awesome, I will try and buy from you more often.
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:49 pm
by BMPokerworld
chess wrote:BMPokerworld wrote:
Glad you like it. These type of "amazing deals" are a big loss for me. We paid somewhere between $4,000 - $6,000 for these decks and will only receive a little over a $1,000 after fees. As far as returning damaged decks, the answer is yes and no. When we have a huge amount of damage, such as the faith deck, (I think over a gross and a half were damaged due to their horrendous packing job and those were one of the decks replaced.), We send them back. But if the decks were packed well from our supplier and we only have a few, say 3 or 4 per gross, then we tend not to ask for replacements and just consider it the cost of doing business. How they pack their decks is very important in my decision to send them back or not. There is only so much anyone can do and damage will always be part of doing business in playing cards. If you complain about every single slightly damaged deck, then no one would do business with you and to tell you the truth, I wouldn't do business with one of my wholesale partners if they constantly complained about a few decks per gross. Of course if it was say, Gold Arcanes, Black Ghost First Editions or decks like that, then it would be different.
The reason I end up with a lot of damaged decks is two-fold. One, we are very picky about what decks we send out and two, we buy most of our items in multiple grosses. That means if we buy 3 gross of something, we could end up with 3 or 4 damage per gross or somewhere between 9-12 damaged decks per wholesale order. So as you can see, based on our buying volume, damaged decks can add up quickly. I donated probably another 500 decks +/- to different charities already, including to Don Boyer for the hospital he supports. I hope this answers your question.
Thanks!
That is awesome, I will try and buy from you more often.
Thanks!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:56 pm
by RSLancastr
BMPokerworld wrote:RSLancastr wrote:Order placed!
I am excited to see what 17 decks I will get - it will be like a late (or extremely early) Christmas!
Thanks!!! You got the last one!!!
Thanks!
Whew!
Will that mean that I get the best of the lot (say, 17 Black Ghost v1 decks), or the dregs (say, 17 "Faith" decks)?
Most likely, somewhere in between the two extremes, and I'm itching to find out what it will be!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:01 pm
by RSLancastr
chess wrote:That is awesome, I will try and buy from you more often.
Good call, chess! Mike (and Brooke Michaels' Poker World (
http://www.bmpokerworld.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) are a class outfit with a great inventory and do right by their customers. Most of the decks I*ve bought in the past year or so were purchased from them.
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:03 pm
by BMPokerworld
RSLancastr wrote:BMPokerworld wrote:RSLancastr wrote:Order placed!
I am excited to see what 17 decks I will get - it will be like a late (or extremely early) Christmas!
Thanks!!! You got the last one!!!
Thanks!
Whew!
Will that mean that I get the best of the lot (say, 17 Black Ghost v1 decks), or the dregs (say, 17 "Faith" decks)?
Most likely, somewhere in between the two extremes, and I'm itching to find out what it will be!
All the lots were pre-made and just pulled when someone ordered them. They were not created on demand. We simply pulled a small brick box and a large brick box with matching numbers and put them in a flat rate envelope.
Thanks!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:02 pm
by RSLancastr
BMPokerworld wrote:All the lots were pre-made and just pulled when someone ordered them. They were not created on demand. We simply pulled a small brick box and a large brick box with matching numbers and put them in a flat rate envelope.
Thanks!
Yeah, I got from the description on your site that the lots were pre-made and all roughly equal in value.
No insult intended.I was just waxing...melodramtic, I guess.
-RSL
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:26 am
by RSLancastr
BMPokerworld wrote:Thanks!!! You got the last one!!!
Thanks!
Out of curiosity, how many sets were there?
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:32 am
by BMPokerworld
RSLancastr wrote:BMPokerworld wrote:Thanks!!! You got the last one!!!
Thanks!
Out of curiosity, how many sets were there?
I think, if I remember correctly we were able to put together a total of 57 or 58 sets. Somewhere in that range.
Thanks!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:31 am
by RSLancastr
Wow, 57 or 58, and they sold out that quickly?
It would be fun if I get number 58 - it is one of my lucky numbers - I was born in 1958.
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:53 am
by BMPokerworld
RSLancastr wrote:Wow, 57 or 58, and they sold out that quickly?
It would be fun if I get number 58 - it is one of my lucky numbers - I was born in 1958.
You won't know because they were not numbered during shipment when you bought one set. Also people who bought multiple sets, that were sent in a flat rate box the smaller boxes were pulled and combined into bigger boxes so the numbers are not the same.
Thanks!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:57 am
by RSLancastr
Well then, maybe I will write "#58" on it when it gets here, Mr. Rain-on-My-Parade.
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:20 pm
by DelMagic
Hey Mike,
You could have said they were limited edition, hand-numbered and signed collections and you could have gotten a lot more money. Maybe next year that would work for you.
John
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:28 pm
by BMPokerworld
DelMagic wrote:Hey Mike,
You could have said they were limited edition, hand-numbered and signed collections and you could have gotten a lot more money. Maybe next year that would work for you.
John
Damn, where were you when I was doing the listing?
Thanks!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:18 pm
by RSLancastr
I couldn't have afforded it if you had described it that way!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:09 pm
by cosmicsecret
DelMagic wrote:Hey Mike,
You could have said they were limited edition, hand-numbered and signed collections and you could have gotten a lot more money. Maybe next year that would work for you.
John
HAHAHA!

made me laugh
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:23 pm
by hikeeba
First 17 in: Awesome Haul!!
Most are minor dings that really shouldn't affect the cards, but you wouldn't want to sell them like that.
The list: These I wanted (some I hadn't bought before): Bearbrick, Irregular, Samurai, EATCT, Apollo Blue, something with flowers, Green Bike (Cincy), Bike Ltd 1, White Arcane
And the rest: Faith, Karnival Assassins, Phoenix, Skull, Guardians, D&D Plaid Brown, D&D Chinatown, Dose
Still some more to bust open, but a great deal! Thanks!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:38 pm
by BMPokerworld
hikeeba wrote:First 17 in: Awesome Haul!!
Most are minor dings that really shouldn't affect the cards, but you wouldn't want to sell them like that.
The list: These I wanted (some I hadn't bought before): Bearbrick, Irregular, Samurai, EATCT, Apollo Blue, something with flowers, Green Bike (Cincy), Bike Ltd 1, White Arcane
And the rest: Faith, Karnival Assassins, Phoenix, Skull, Guardians, D&D Plaid Brown, D&D Chinatown, Dose
Still some more to bust open, but a great deal! Thanks!
Glad you like them!!!
Enjoy!!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:11 pm
by alric
hikeeba wrote:First 17 in: Awesome Haul!!
Most are minor dings that really shouldn't affect the cards, but you wouldn't want to sell them like that.
The list: These I wanted (some I hadn't bought before): Bearbrick, Irregular, Samurai, EATCT, Apollo Blue, something with flowers, Green Bike (Cincy), Bike Ltd 1, White Arcane
And the rest: Faith, Karnival Assassins, Phoenix, Skull, Guardians, D&D Plaid Brown, D&D Chinatown, Dose
Still some more to bust open, but a great deal! Thanks!
That is not a bad haul at all. Even though these are dinged decks, there's a lot of variety and most of those are pretty desireable decks. It looks like it is a far better deal than D&D's mystery decks, even though they're not dinged. I guess I just have to be quicker to score these deals the next time BMP has a sale like this.
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:24 pm
by DelMagic
I bought 2 sets of these. In total I received:
2-Black Arcane
2-Black Shadowmasters Bicycle
2- Bicycle Faith
2-Karnival Midnight Foil
1-Karnival Midnight Regular
1-Black Tiger White Pips
1-Black Tiger Red Pips
1-Karnival Assassins
1-Karnival Inferno
1-Dose
1-Sentinels
1-Black Ghost
1-Karnival Ryujin
1-Karnival Hornets
1-Bicycle White Ghost
1-Bicycle Apollo
1-Bicycle Phoenix
2-Bicycle TokiDoki
1-BIcycle Tattoo
1-Purple Artifice
1-Carnival Trick Card Deck (since I do magic, yeah!)
1-Black Smith Back Erdnase CARC
1-Aladdin
1-Tragic Royalty
1-S&M V6
1-Bicycle League Back
1-Gold Dragon Back Bicycle
1-Orange Bicycle
1-Samurai
Most of these are in fine, useable condition. I've bought many decks for full retail which were in the same shape as these. In next year's voting, this is likely to be my "Deal of the Year" choice.
THANK YOU MIKE!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:26 pm
by CBJ
DelMagic wrote:I bought 2 sets of these. In total I received:
2-Black Arcane
2-Black Shadowmasters Bicycle
2- Bicycle Faith
2-Karnival Midnight Foil
1-Karnival Midnight Regular
1-Black Tiger White Pips
1-Black Tiger Red Pips
1-Karnival Assassins
1-Karnival Inferno
1-Dose
1-Sentinels
1-Black Ghost
1-Karnival Ryujin
1-Karnival Hornets
1-Bicycle White Ghost
1-Bicycle Apollo
1-Bicycle Phoenix
2-Bicycle TokiDoki
1-BIcycle Tattoo
1-Purple Artifice
1-Carnival Trick Card Deck (since I do magic, yeah!)
1-Black Smith Back Erdnase CARC
1-Aladdin
1-Tragic Royalty
1-S&M V6
1-Bicycle League Back
1-Gold Dragon Back Bicycle
1-Orange Bicycle
1-Samurai
Most of these are in fine, useable condition. I've bought many decks for full retail which were in the same shape as these. In next year's voting, this is likely to be my "Deal of the Year" choice.
THANK YOU MIKE!
Wow.. Amazing!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:27 pm
by MagikFingerz
Mike: Out of curiosity, have you had such a sale before? How much time did it take to accumulate the amount of dinged decks you sold like this?
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:31 pm
by hikeeba
The nice thing is that you can open these and feel like you've ruined your expensive collectible. In other packs I picked up Gargoyles Artist Edition, Brimstone, Maiden Back, Black Fan, Black CARC Smith, EATCT, Orange & Burgundy Bikes, etc - most of these will get opened. It was a great deal for utility (of course, now I also have a bunch of decks I'm so-so about - Anne Stokes, Faith, Karnival almost-everything.....but the good stuff definitely outweighs those)
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:32 pm
by BMPokerworld
MagikFingerz wrote:Mike: Out of curiosity, have you had such a sale before? How much time did it take to accumulate the amount of dinged decks you sold like this?
Tom,
Yes we had one a before and we sold them individually. It took too much time and created too many problems. I think it was about 2 years ago, maybe a little sooner.
@ DelMagic: Glad you like them!!!!
Thanks!
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:39 pm
by RSLancastr
alric wrote:[That is not a bad haul at all. Even though these are dinged decks, there's a lot of variety and most of those are pretty desireable decks. It looks like it is a far better deal than D&D's mystery decks, even though they're not dinged. I guess I just have to be quicker to score these deals the next time BMP has a sale like this.
I would suggest that you "Like" BMP's new Facebook page then, as I would think it likely that sales like this one will get announced there before here next time.
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:41 pm
by hikeeba
DelMagic wrote:I bought 2 sets of these. In total I received:
1-Carnival Trick Card Deck (since I do magic, yeah!)
This was the one I saw on the table in the pic I wanted to get one of (and I got exactly one of them). The ding only affected the top card ever so slightly (couldn't notice at arm's length) - the rest are mint.
One of the gaffs looks like the back of a red NOC (how did they know??) And there's a monkey card - gotta love a deck with a monkey.
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:15 pm
by phantom1412
hikeeba wrote:First 17 in: Awesome Haul!!
Most are minor dings that really shouldn't affect the cards, but you wouldn't want to sell them like that.
The list: These I wanted (some I hadn't bought before): Bearbrick, Irregular, Samurai, EATCT, Apollo Blue, something with flowers, Green Bike (Cincy), Bike Ltd 1, White Arcane
And the rest: Faith, Karnival Assassins, Phoenix, Skull, Guardians, D&D Plaid Brown, D&D Chinatown, Dose
Still some more to bust open, but a great deal! Thanks!
I think something with the flower is transducer night sakura deck.
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:21 pm
by hikeeba
phantom1412 wrote:I think something with the flower is transducer night sakura deck.
You, sir, are correct. I also have a really colorful one and something with upset dragons....
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:35 pm
by elcyciB
Great, really cool sale! Thanks Mike.
Brimstone
The Grid
Bicycle Apollo Red & Blue
Transducer Night Sakura
Galvanic
Bicycle Irregular
Bicycle Phoenix
Bicycle (Lavender) (Cincy)
Blue Artifice
Bicycle Shadow Masters
Bicycle PRO Poker Peek (Cincy)
Bicycle League Back
Karnival Midnight Foil Box Edition
Karnival
Karnival Ryujin
Karnival Dose Foil Box Edition
*Two of these say they were printed in Cincinnati. Do they reprint some of these in KY? For instance, the PRO Poker Peeks? Or is the entire line just printed in Cincy and then they did away with them?
Re: Great deal on 17 decks from Mike
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:40 pm
by BMPokerworld
elcyciB wrote:Great, really cool sale! Thanks Mike.
Brimstone
The Grid
Bicycle Apollo Red & Blue
Transducer Night Sakura
Galvanic
Bicycle Irregular
Bicycle Phoenix
Bicycle Fashion Series? (Lavender)
Blue Artifice
Bicycle Shadow Masters
Bicycle PRO Poker Peek
Bicycle League Back
Karnival Midnight Foil Box Edition
Karnival
Karnival Ryujin
Karnival Dose Foil Box Edition
Glad you are happy!!!