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Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 11:09 pm
by laitostarr777
hsbc wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 1:35 pm
Full Color Storage Boxes - Because you Rock! Included with all purchases of 4+ decks!

As a way simply to say thank you, we have created full-color storage boxes to store your beautiful The Lord of the Rings decks. These storage boxes will be automatically included with any pledge of 4 or more decks! If you've pledged 4-6 decks we will include the 6 deck box in your order. Any purchase of 7+ decks will receive one of our 12 deck storage boxes. And don't you worry, these beautiful boxes will NOT be the shipping box. Nope! These beautiful boxes will be nestled in an additional shipping box so we don't ruin these beauties with those nasty shipping labels. Thanks again for your continued support and be sure to stay tuned as we have a few more additions to the project coming next week!
Images from Discord
WHOA

hmmm, i add one more deck or I pass this up

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 11:42 pm
by TheGentlemanWake
There appears to be a new book style edition coming in the next few days.

I've heard a LOT of deliberation back and forth regarding adding decks as stretch goals and the general consensus among backers being that they don't like coming back to adjust pledges. Seems to be working VERY well indeed for Jackson.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 12:05 am
by GandalfPC
TheGentlemanWake wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 11:42 pm There appears to be a new book style edition coming in the next few days.

I've heard a LOT of deliberation back and forth regarding adding decks as stretch goals and the general consensus among backers being that they don't like coming back to adjust pledges. Seems to be working VERY well indeed for Jackson.
Different strokes for different folks - I am no longer a completionist, but when I was having more decks tossed on (past a certain point) was an issue as it felt like I was complete and now I had to spend more money, live without the set (god forbid) or in the case of a limited add on perhaps be unable to get it. All turmoil.

(Also, a continual stream of add ons can feel predatory to a completionist) - I don’t imagine others care.

Otherwise, when its a nice sized campaign for my liking and a new deck gets added that is very special I am quite pleased.

No simple formula, no easy or straight path. But if everything is laid out in advance it is avoided.

Can’t please everyone all the time - and I think that stretch goals are important for many campaigns, as they simply cant afford to print those special decks without either setting too high a goal for the campaign or do a stretch goal.

So it comes down to why it’s being done for me - is it purely a sales technique (for the vendor) or a necessary evil to allow for a reasonable campaign goal as well as some special goodies (for the customers, benefiting the vendor not being the primary reason).

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 9:27 am
by wingedpotato
TheGentlemanWake wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 11:42 pm There appears to be a new book style edition coming in the next few days.

I've heard a LOT of deliberation back and forth regarding adding decks as stretch goals and the general consensus among backers being that they don't like coming back to adjust pledges. Seems to be working VERY well indeed for Jackson.
I see five things about Jackson's LOtR campaign:
1) He started with three decks whose only difference was gilding + box (fairly simple)
2) He's not requiring the purchase of anything "extra" to get any single deck, including these new stretch goal exclusives (again, fairly simple)
3) He's not requiring anyone to switch tiers for any reason. You just need to add-on the new decks (once again, fairly simple)
4) Jackson threads the needle between art/high-end collectors and hype collectors with his social media persona, etc.
5) It is freakin' Lord of the Rings

(All that said, I'm only personally in for a standard and a standard exclusive...)

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 11:07 am
by shunterino
Being able to add-on stuff for stretch goals is a staple of most Kickstarters, isn't that how most stretch goals work?

The general consensus among people I know is if it's a cool addition (and shipping isn't stupidly high) everyone's who wants it is delighted. And if it isn't, it's very easy to ignore. The only issue I've seen is when people are confused about how to add something onto their pledge because Kickstarter UI can be confusing.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 11:17 am
by GandalfPC
Pretty sure that anyone trying to collect all KW stuff has already been overwhelmed and given up :)

I did enjoy being a completionist for a while - now I enjoy the freedom of not being one.

As for Kickstarter UI - it can go pretty haywire, especially when a very limited add on comes out - mobile/desktop/app, some work, others don’t - some real pandemonium can ensue.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 12:26 am
by laitostarr777
In my opinion, and probably most, that stretch goals are meant to have a cool upgrade to the decks - i.e. a very standard deck with simple finish, with stretch goal - the deck can have seals, or metallic foil or something like that. Fairly, you don't want stretch goals that meant to be a SURPRISE EDITIONS [this is back to people want to know how many editions upfront], but I think it can be excusable if the creator have forewarned about said extra editions in the roster plan.

That being said, I KNEW this campaign is going to make that KS edition to be gilded XD. With a total of four decks, I guess my shipping rates can somewhat justified (but still expensive X.X more than what other US based stores offered like Riffle Shuffle)

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 7:32 am
by brownsl
Interestingly, I saw the update, read through it but not close enough and assumed I had already gotten that deck. Not until I read your post did I realize there is a fourth deck. I went back and reread the update more closely and then knew I did not have that deck. It was completely clear from the update it was my fault in not reading it close enough. This has happened with me before and I have missed decks. Again, the updates were fine it was just me backing too many KS campaigns, getting so many updates (some campaigns are excessive in the frequency of updates), and getting to the point of just skimming them. I think this goes to show that knowing the possible decks coming at the beginning of the campaign is good.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:29 am
by hsbc
The various versions of these are waaaaay too similar IMO :roll:

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:49 am
by wingedpotato
hsbc wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:29 am The various versions of these are waaaaay too similar IMO :roll:
Seems the main reason for this is JR had only these designs approved by the Tolkien estate, so he can't throw in a lot of variation without risking his contract with them. It's a shame though.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 12:27 pm
by hsbc
High-End Lord of the Rings Playing Cards Close In on $500K on Kickstarter
Rayburn Odom, May 10, 2022, CBR.com

A crowdfunding campaign for a set of luxury-themed Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring playing cards has rocketed to nearly $500,000.

The Kickstarter campaign was started by Jackson Robinson, an illustrator and playing card designer who says it has always been on his "bucket list" to create a series of card decks based on the Lord of the Rings (LOTR). "From my earliest memories, as an artist," Robinson writes, "I have been drawn to and inspired by science fiction and fantasy stories. Out of all those stories The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien has been my absolute favorite story."

Robinson hopes to eventually create three decks of cards, one for each novel in the LOTR trilogy, but this first deck will focus on characters and scenes from The Fellowship of the Ring. The officially licensed cards have a style that will be instantly recognizable to Tolkien fans, with a familiar use of flowing, sinuous fonts and rich, earthy colors. However, the artist has added his own flair and style to the illustrations, particularly the character designs. As Robinson explained, "Every aspect of this deck of cards is uniquely illustrated and designed with as much detail as possible to create a deck of cards that will be loved by Tolkien fans all over the world."

The cards feature main characters from the novel as kings, queens and jacks. For example, Strider stars as the king, Arwen the queen and Samwise the jack in the suit of hearts. Meanwhile, the aces in each suit are reserved for powerful items from the book. The ace of diamonds, for example, is the staff of Gandalf, while the ace of hearts is Frodo's luminous blade Sting. Elessar, the magical jewel also known as the Elfstone, which Arwen wore as a necklace in the films, is featured on the ace of clubs. Finally, the ace of spades -- the most powerful card in a deck and also known as the death card -- is, of course, the One Ring itself, glowing with power.

Robinson's Kickstarter campaign had an original goal of just $20,000 and currently sits at around $426,000 with another nine days left in the campaign. The lowest pledge of $12 will reserve a single standard edition deck, while the highest tier of $575 or more buys the "Gandalf Collector's Set," which includes 12 standard decks, two Gilded Edition decks and two Legacy Edition decks. The cards will be made in the U.S. by The United States Playing Card Company and are "printed on FSC-certified paper derived from sustainable forests, vegetable-based inks, and starch-based laminates."

The Fellowship of the Ring playing cards have an estimated delivery date of November 2022. Robinson's FAQ says they "hope to launch our Two Towers deck sometime in the fall of 2022 and our Return of the King deck sometime in early 2023." All of the decks will be available to purchase from the artist's website, Kings Wild Project, after the Kickstarter campaign.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 1:01 pm
by vasta41
@TGW See? If JR can do it, you can, too!

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 11:43 am
by portcullis
might be of interest to some others here

https://discord.com/channels/9304695023 ... 2230535198

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:03 am
by laitostarr777
To clarify things: so does the Kickstarter exclusive edition will have the same face as the Standard ones? I was thought to believe that the Kickstarter edition will have the faces based on the original artworks before it gets cartoonized

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:11 am
by sms69x
laitostarr777 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 3:03 am To clarify things: so does the Kickstarter exclusive edition will have the same face as the Standard ones? I was thought to believe that the Kickstarter edition will have the faces based on the original artworks before it gets cartoonized
Same faces.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 4:37 am
by Adamthinks
laitostarr777 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 3:03 am To clarify things: so does the Kickstarter exclusive edition will have the same face as the Standard ones? I was thought to believe that the Kickstarter edition will have the faces based on the original artworks before it gets cartoonized
A deck based on the original artwork is still being made, but it's bot a part of this Kickstarter. He's going to release it later on his website. It's not finished yet.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 12:09 pm
by hsbc
Official The Lord of the Rings-themed playing cards are going gangbusters
TheOneRing.net, May 18 2022

Since early childhood, artist Jackson Robinson has always wanted to do something artistically inspired by The Lord of the Rings. Recently, he’s finally been able to turn that dream into reality with a wildly successful Kickstarter project launching a deck of The Lord of the Rings-themed playing cards featuring his own hand-drawn art.

Over 6,400 people have backed his The Fellowship of the Ring deck of luxury playing cards in just under a month. It’s now 25 times more successful than its initial goal.

“I knew it would succeed just from the love of the IP and my followers, but I had NO idea it was going to be as successful as it has been,” Jackson told TheOneRing.net.

Robinson says that he’s worked as a professional illustrator for more than 20 years on big brand names and franchises ranging from Star Wars and Marvel Comics to Disney and Coca-Cola, but he’s always loved The Lord of the Rings. His favorite artists working in Tolkien’s milieu includes John Howe and Alen Lee, but he also loves the work of Donato Giancola and the woodcuts of Tolkien Society best artwork category award-winner Tomas Hijo.

“Like many others, the richness of the story and characters within Professor Tolkien’s work drew me in. I also always found it fascinating that I could never seem to be at the bottom of the well of creativity in any of his works or worlds,” Jackson says.

He says that the first significant piece of Tolkien artwork he made was a map of Middle-earth.

“I did this over 20 years ago, during my undergraduate years at the University of North Texas. The map still hangs in my office today.”

However, his interest in playing cards dates from around 2013. He says he only fell into it by accident while working in the videogame industry in Los Angeles.

“I did my first playing card Kickstarter to earn some extra money. It went viral, and I haven’t looked back. I was able to start designing playing cards full-time,” Jackson says. This was the basis for the company he founded — Kings Wild Project.

He says that ever since he started Kings Wild Project, a Lord of the Rings deck has been on his bucket list, and he immediately began researching the requirements for an official license from Middle-earth Enterprises. One of the prerequisites was that his business needed to have been operating in its industry sector for a minimum of five years.

Jackson says the day after Kings Wild Project reached the five-year-mark, he contacted Middle-earth Enterprise requesting to become a licensee to design The Lord of the Rings-themed playing card decks.

He typically begins his creative process with a lot of reference gathering, looking for materials and art styles to draw inspiration from.

“Then I start sketching a character or court card. I usually start with the King of Spades. I will work on one court card or back design until I feel I ‘find it’, and continue the same process with the other characters and cards,” Jackson says. “So many things I deliberately DON’T plan… It is as if the story is being retold for the first time as each new character is revealed during the creative process.”

Jackson says he typically doesn’t need to iterate designs very often.

“But I went through a massive restart with [the deck for] The Lord of the Rings. I had almost finished almost half the deck when I wanted to try something different. I ended up going with the new direction but, in the process, created two decks that have the same character lineup but are done in two very different styles.”

His favorite cards from his Fellowship deck are the Glorfindel card for the deck that’s now up on Kickstarter, and the Frodo card from his initial “scrapped” deck. He says he plans to return to that alternative deck at a later date.

Plans don’t stop there. He also has a deck themed on The Two Towers tentatively expected to launch on Kickstarter in late Fall, and one for The Return of the King in early 2023. He hopes to produce a deck themed on The Hobbit in the Spring of 2023. He told TheOneRing.net that he was also recently granted a license to produce two-sided The Lord of the Rings jigsaw puzzles. Look out for a Fellowship of the Ring puzzle in time for the holiday season this year.

Readers can visit Kings Wild Project to find out more about his playing card projects, including his Fellowship of the Ring-themed deck. At the time of publishing, the Kickstarter for The Fellowship of the Ring deck has 50 hours before it closes. You can check it out here.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 12:46 pm
by laitostarr777
The Hobbit deck better have Smaug, or I won’t touch it XD

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:15 pm
by Harvonsgard
Thanks for posting @hsbc. Great news. Beside salready mebtioned stuff I'm looking forward for the Hobbit deck.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:28 am
by theCapraAegagrus
I'm in about $200 for this project. Almost all of JR's Kickstarter projects are 10/10.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:36 am
by GandalfPC
I went in for a pair of decks, kept it around $75 - planning on going bigger for the other versions when they launch and wanted them to have some companions

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 11:44 am
by brownsl
I am in for just under $400. I got 4 of each of the decks.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 12:41 pm
by hsbc
I'm a real big spender, $34 for the two regular decks :lol:

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 12:52 pm
by steampunk52
I dropped my pledge. I'm just not feeling this design. I do like the alternate back he released, but ultimately decided to wait for the 'original' design release. I really like that one.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 1:17 pm
by Strag
I'll pick up some standards later on, nice campagin and well done to Jackson.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 1:43 pm
by Bradius
I am sitting at $205 myself. Two of everything including two Kickstarter Exclusive and Kickstarter Exclusive gilded. No Legacy sets this time though.

I was really hoping to pick up his custom map he made of Middle Earth. I understand there might have been some licensing issues keeping him from releasing it.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 3:22 pm
by kevork
I personally pledged for one of each of the four decks. I did not opt for the legacy as that seems like a scam to me. If the Ocean's Curse Captain's Crate, limited to 300 can sell for $50 and make a profit, an unlimited (limited only by demand/feasibility) wooden box and recolored tuck at $200 is just meh.

But then again, that's just me and others can of course see it very differently!

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 3:47 pm
by Harvonsgard
Scam gets tossed around a tad quick. A scam to my understanding is when I offer you one thing and deliver another, less valuable thing or deliver nothing at all and run with your money. Two thing that won't happen with offerings from Jackson. You get what is offered/promised, if it is worth $200 is for everyone to decide.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 4:19 pm
by EvilDuncan
One of my biggest pet peeves is when people unjustly call something a scam. There are many scams out there. Cellar Window and Natalia Silva come to mind. Even Vanda's Stories campaign I hesitate to call a scam because I fully believe he originally intended to fulfill the decks (this is just my view, let's not further drag up this topic here). The legacy editions are not a scam by any definition of the word, but especially not because you perceive them as not worth the cost.

Re: The Lord of the Rings - By Kings Wild Project

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 4:48 pm
by brownsl
The legacy is definitely not a scam. I would not pay that much for it as I do not think it is worth it does not mean it is a scam. A scam would be something like selling a piece of wood as though it is something valuable. Oh wait .... :) Actually, I do not think that was a scam either as buyers knew exactly what they were getting.