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Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:28 pm
by rousselle
Magasaki wrote:Lotrek wrote:$85/deck

Unicorn tears don't come cheap, my friend.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:34 pm
by chach
rousselle wrote:Magasaki wrote:Lotrek wrote:$85/deck

Unicorn tears don't come cheap, my friend.
Truth. Money well spent. Question is, to buy more than one or not so you have one to play with.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:15 pm
by Lotrek
chach wrote:rousselle wrote:Magasaki wrote:Lotrek wrote:$85/deck

Unicorn tears don't come cheap, my friend.
Truth. Money well spent. Question is, to buy more than one or not so you have one to play with.
Answer is, even if you buy only one, please play!

Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:05 pm
by Mike Ratledge
Fes wrote:Magasaki wrote:Lotrek wrote:$85/deck

I consider it a bargain myself, thought they would come in at the $100 mark. I'm absolutely thrilled I'll be able to have a chance to participate in the KS to get one of these beauties. My target isn't just one though.

TL;DR summary: You're new around here.
We went back and forth on this. To do a true luxury deck with all the bells and whistles (and you haven't heard half of it, yet!) under $100 was the challenge, and Lotrek already did Venexiana Gold ultra limited edition of 200 decks for sale. Those were the first of the "World's First" accomplishments that will happen as the ICONS series develops, and V Gold was a test case to insure that the things we both had in mind can be done, even though industry insiders from both Expert/Legends and USPCC stated that "foil on card backs can't be done" less than a year ago. Those were $100 per deck, and we managed to work out a special 10% off deal for UC forum members, and sold the first 98 of 200 units here over a single weekend, and the rest went in 17 minutes on KS at the full $100 per deck - either way - limit two decks.
ICONS will be less expensive, but will have even more (and ongoing even more) features and "things that can't be done" like two foils on the card backs themselves, and ultra-plush velvet-touch hot gold foil stamped tucks for the Imperial editions. There will be two more versions - "Secular" and "Sacred", so there will be three different price-points, each with it's own specifications and characteristics. These ("ICONS Byzantine Imperial edition") are going to be done first and separately, although in the future they may remain separate and they may be released at the same time (all three editions). I'm not Lotrek, I can't read his mind, I can only give you insights into the knowledge that he's given me, and I'm quite certain that he's still got a few tricks up his sleeve - he always does!
Is ICONS Byzantine Imperial edition a deck for everyone? Surely not! By definition it's designed to be an outrageous advancement in what can be done using a combination of new technologies and old world craftsmanship in what is a new standard of luxury for playing card decks. I didn't start this thread out with a "Most Luxurious Deck Ever Made - for members only" topic or in my mind even think along the lines of getting under $100. Were you around when he described just how much work went into the process of doing Venexiana Gold decks (twice)? I can assure you, if it were up to me I would have stayed up at the $100 mark. Since he's including shipping / delivery worldwide, it's more-or-less $75 or $70 depending on where it's going shipping-wise he is giving everyone a 20-25% discount over what Venexiana Gold pricing in my mind. This isn't going to be "Q1", it's going to be a hands-on, pull out all the stops - luxury deck - and we'll move forward and onward from there.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:09 pm
by Cbkimble
So are 'secular' and 'sacred' going to be luxury decks as well?
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:24 pm
by Mike Ratledge
Cbkimble wrote:So are 'secular' and 'sacred' going to be luxury decks as well?
He will have to answer that - when he's ready. At least one will be more available, the other could go either way, I guess. The third version could have 3D geospatial auto-adjustment, but I would prefer a hand crafted one-of-a-kind deck, but he has to make them... You didn't get the memo?
Let's get these done or at least funded, and then we can speculate what is "next" in the list.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:32 pm
by Lotrek
Cbkimble wrote:So are 'secular' and 'sacred' going to be luxury decks as well?
These will be "normal" editions, printed by EPCC. That's the plan for now, although I have some ideas I'm working on. "Sacred" will be limited, while "Secular" will be unlimited but the KS edition will have some differences from any reprint. Not so striking to justify buying the reprint but enough for the KS backers to feel that their versions are unique. Probably the reprint will have a plain tuck. Just a thought.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:46 pm
by Eoghann
Got any more art for us, good sir? I'm dying to see some queens.

Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:18 pm
by Cbkimble
Eoghann wrote:Got any more art for us, good sir? I'm dying to see some queens.

We all love cards but that's taking it a little far. Hey, whatever floats your boat though.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:00 pm
by Bikefanatic
I won't have a social life next Tuesday. I'll just be waiting on the 5pm and 7pm Eastern times......
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:43 pm
by chach
Eoghann wrote:Got any more art for us, good sir? I'm dying to see some queens.

This. And jokers, always a fan of the jokers. Especially one in the Venexiana Dark deck in particular for some odd reason.

Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:28 am
by Eoghann
Cbkimble wrote:Eoghann wrote:Got any more art for us, good sir? I'm dying to see some queens.

We all love cards but that's taking it a little far. Hey, whatever floats your boat though.
That was me showing restraint, brosef.

Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:42 am
by Lotrek
More art tomorrow at 5:00 pm EST.

Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:49 am
by Fes
Lotrek wrote:More art tomorrow at 5:00 pm EST.

But... That's over 24 hours from now.

Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:33 pm
by Lord Nikon
Lotrek,
Will UC members get first crack at these like the Venexiana Golds or will everyone fend for themselves on KS?

Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:18 pm
by rousselle
There will be one early bird deck, for the discounted price of $83, and BadPete is going to get it, so don't bother.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:21 pm
by Lord Nikon
Challenge accepted!
rousselle wrote:There will be one early bird deck, for the discounted price of $83, and BadPete is going to get it, so don't bother.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:27 pm
by badpete69
Rouselle are you saying there is only 1 EB deck available?
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:31 pm
by Sher
Omg. I had a panic attack when I saw this thread today. I told myself it would launch 8 AM my time. Well, it's the 20th here and it's past 8 AM and I completely forgot all about it... But thank goodness I'm a day ahead, so it'll be launching tomorrow for me. Phew.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:43 pm
by rousselle
I was joking! It was a joke! I keed! I keed because I lovvve!
I have no idea if there will be any Early Birds at all. But if there are, I know that you'll snag one before anyone else will, my friend. Heh.
Viva la Tuesday!
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:58 pm
by Mike Ratledge
I am thinking that there are no EB tiers, but there is no preview. We'll know in 18 hours.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:58 am
by Aussie888
Aussie888 wrote:Luxury would be a velvet lined tuck box protecting a beautiful set of ivory cards with scrimshawed designs

Well I got the velvet bit right, guess I was wrong on the ivory and scrimshaw though
$85 is a bit out of my budget unfortunately.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:40 am
by caramelo
Shipping from...??
is just to see how much will I pay of customs duties.

Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:17 am
by Lotrek
caramelo wrote:Shipping from...??
is just to see how much will I pay of customs duties.

Shipping from Greece.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:19 am
by Mike Ratledge
caramelo wrote:Shipping from...??
is just to see how much will I pay of customs duties.

Ships from Greece, I have to assume.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:43 am
by adanyeva2
Lotrek wrote:caramelo wrote:Shipping from...??
is just to see how much will I pay of customs duties.

Shipping from Greece.
Great news for Europeans.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:10 am
by Mike Ratledge
With 6 hours to go, I can reveal that a little birdy told me there will probably be a few Early Birds available for $75-$80. Keep it to yourselves, I am thinking about ten or maybe a dozen. (and no, there is no preview link)
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:17 am
by Fes
mums the word. I'll secretly go back to looking at that Shrubbery AoH contraband photo and pretend I heard nothing.
mums, it's the word.
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:49 am
by PrincessTrouble
Lord Nikon wrote:Challenge accepted!
rousselle wrote:There will be one early bird deck, for the discounted price of $83, and BadPete is going to get it, so don't bother.
Sorry LN, my money is on Pierre. LOL
Re: ICONS Imperial edition: Byzantine luxury cards by HMPC
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:55 am
by Lord Nikon
Boooo PrincessButterCup!
PrincessTrouble wrote:Lord Nikon wrote:Challenge accepted!
rousselle wrote:There will be one early bird deck, for the discounted price of $83, and BadPete is going to get it, so don't bother.
Sorry LN, my money is on Pierre. LOL