Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:56 pm
This is easily in my top 5 Bicycle decks... and depending how the finished product turns out... it could hit #1
CBJ
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Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:33 am
just picked up the Gold Certificate deck.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:32 pm
Even with the confusion of the rewards, you have stumbled to success Jackson. You started with "he who shall not be named" and ended up being friends with 4pm and Albino dragon. Nice call.
My only final bitch is you should have made the stretch goals on the kickstarter home page so it's easy to see. you have to dig to find out you have already reached your $85,000 stretch goal. you might have wanted to put a $120,000 and $140,000 stretch goal and just maybe... you should never run out of stretch goals. i think you might have close to 3000 backers when this is done. nice wave. http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/172280 ... card-deck/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I see that you changed some $1000 rewards to $750 rewards. nice and I've been watching the $15 reward pool. these are the guys you want to step up in rewards.
With you mentioning their kick starters:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/4pm ... s?ref=card" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/146 ... s?ref=card" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think you have started and trend of support. I think Grid 2.0 and Synthesis will have a nice exhale if everyone throws some media at both of these kickstarters.
My only final bitch is you should have made the stretch goals on the kickstarter home page so it's easy to see. you have to dig to find out you have already reached your $85,000 stretch goal. you might have wanted to put a $120,000 and $140,000 stretch goal and just maybe... you should never run out of stretch goals. i think you might have close to 3000 backers when this is done. nice wave. http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/172280 ... card-deck/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I see that you changed some $1000 rewards to $750 rewards. nice and I've been watching the $15 reward pool. these are the guys you want to step up in rewards.
With you mentioning their kick starters:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/4pm ... s?ref=card" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/146 ... s?ref=card" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think you have started and trend of support. I think Grid 2.0 and Synthesis will have a nice exhale if everyone throws some media at both of these kickstarters.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:15 am
WTF? Is there even a reason for this post? Dude, seriously, think before you post, please!sprouts1115 wrote:History:
Mar 8 http://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopic ... &start=120" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;...........
"wow we have 2 heavy hitters on kickstarter. Synthesis and Grid 2.0. synthesis hit its goal in how many days? eriik and shane i might add are trustworthy. you will get your product. hell i sent them $3000 check and got it back. it only took a month erik . 4pm design i respect. he has giving me some good feedback. i've seen his last deck. i think he is pretty much in the game; he will make his goal. Flowers - if you check out their rewards strategy, it's good; they might make it."
Erik and Shane are from Albino Dragon.
Then Feberal 52 was born.
I had to start a thread on Mar 13 http://aethercards.com/discourse/playin ... ederal-52/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;..........
Then I thought -
Mar 28 http://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopic ... &start=120" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;..........
"russell - thanks that works. i can't help but say its great "Synthesis" and "Grid 2.0" made it to 100% but i do hear a sucking sound from "Federal 52". i'm i wrong. so far there are 20 deck projects. if i read this 2 years from now will this seem a small #."
Even with the confusion of the rewards, you have stumbled to success Jackson. You started with "he who shall not be named" and ended up being friends with 4pm and Albino dragon. Nice call.
My only finial bitch is you should have made the stretch goals on the kickstarter home page so it's there easy to see. I see that you changed some $1000 rewards to $750 rewards. nice and I've been watching the $15 reward pool. these are the guys you want to step up in rewards. With you mentioning their kick starters:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/4pm ... s?ref=card" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;....
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/146 ... s?ref=card" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;....
I think you have started and trend of support. I think Grid 2.0 and Synthesis have a nice exhale if everyone throws some media at it(7 days left). Facebook; whatever. I'm giving a $3000 spread on Synthesis. I think they will win. Place your bets on these heavy hitters. Any takers
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:29 am
Strag,
Your 100% right. I chose to leave it because I really try not to delete or alter posts as much as possible. I have sent him his last and final warning. If he cannot post coherent messages, which pertain to the topic in the thread, he will be banned permanently.
Thanks!
Your 100% right. I chose to leave it because I really try not to delete or alter posts as much as possible. I have sent him his last and final warning. If he cannot post coherent messages, which pertain to the topic in the thread, he will be banned permanently.
Thanks!
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:28 am
Just to update everyone on what I'm thinking about these great cards (and I'm sure everyone does care what I think) I'll repost a comment I made on the KS site:
In my last comment I said "I just switched my pledge from an $11 for one deck to $24 for one original and one Gold Cert – plus $66 in add-ons so I can get 2 of each deck and variant!" Okay, so I'm a jerk. I woke up this morning and realized I miscalculated the cost of a branded Fed 52 add-on, and would have done better to keep the original pledge. Oh well, I adjusted my pledge and Jackson deserves the extra 2 bucks! And if someone on the fence snapped up the $11 pledge, it's a win/win/win. This just shows how deliriously wonderful these cards are: they affected my ability to do simple math AND I'm thinking of them in my sleep!
In my last comment I said "I just switched my pledge from an $11 for one deck to $24 for one original and one Gold Cert – plus $66 in add-ons so I can get 2 of each deck and variant!" Okay, so I'm a jerk. I woke up this morning and realized I miscalculated the cost of a branded Fed 52 add-on, and would have done better to keep the original pledge. Oh well, I adjusted my pledge and Jackson deserves the extra 2 bucks! And if someone on the fence snapped up the $11 pledge, it's a win/win/win. This just shows how deliriously wonderful these cards are: they affected my ability to do simple math AND I'm thinking of them in my sleep!
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:52 pm
Truth be told, $15 is still way too much for this deck. Having said that, the Federal 52 is so well designed that it relieves some of the sting of overpaying for the deck. Plus if you purchase a sufficient volume of decks to get the price down to $11-$12 per deck, then it really isn't so overpriced since the shipping is included (for domestic buyers, that is. Yes, I feel your pain, international buyers).
Perhaps the thing I appreciate the most about this deck is the willingness of Jackson to take into consideration all the constructive input on the various forums and posts to really improve an already impressive deck. He never produced playing cards before, and his earliest designs showed it with the unattractive, huge one-way back in his original design. But the deck has come a long way since then, and when we do our polls for 2013 Deck of the Year at the end of this year, this is going to be a heavy-weight contender.
Perhaps the thing I appreciate the most about this deck is the willingness of Jackson to take into consideration all the constructive input on the various forums and posts to really improve an already impressive deck. He never produced playing cards before, and his earliest designs showed it with the unattractive, huge one-way back in his original design. But the deck has come a long way since then, and when we do our polls for 2013 Deck of the Year at the end of this year, this is going to be a heavy-weight contender.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:49 am
I also admire the way he took professional cardist’s opinions and constructive criticism in forming his beautiful artwork into a near-perfect deck of playing cards. There's a lot to be said about that. If I designed a deck, I wouldn't care what you minions had to say! (jk!) I also think it's great that he got our Canadian mod pining over American money. Don't worry Jay- I won't tell anyone. I couldn't anyway- you're the only Canadian I talk to..sinjin7 wrote:Perhaps the thing I appreciate the most about this deck is the willingness of Jackson to take into consideration all the constructive input on the various forums and posts to really improve an already impressive deck. He never produced playing cards before, and his earliest designs showed it with the unattractive, huge one-way back in his original design. But the deck has come a long way since then, and when we do our polls for 2013 Deck of the Year at the end of this year, this is going to be a heavy-weight contender.
on a side note, sinjin- I've always loved your input on this forum- do it more often!
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:30 am
Hey guys. I just wanted to take some time a say thank you for all the input you have given me over the course of this project. I have learned so much and oh a big thanks to you guys.
Jackson
Jackson
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:49 pm
Jackson your cards are amazing....
I want to say this same quote that's on the White Ghost deck from EllusionistWith the number cards I have replace the Treasury Seal that had the phrase "A Kings Wild Project By Jackson Robinson" and replaced it with the more archaic treasury seal that contains the Latin phrase "ergo decipiatur mundus vult decipi" which means "Therefore, the world wants to be deceived."
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:49 pm
111K and counting! Your deck is beautiful and your success is very well-deserved, Jackson.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:50 pm
This deck is way far and away better designed than Pedale...(didn't pledge for that one)...hope it breaks the record.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:29 pm
is Pedale's 146K the record?
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:25 pm
it's $146,596. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/153 ... n?ref=card" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
love this video. http://vimeo.com/59008387" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; he set the standard.
love this video. http://vimeo.com/59008387" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; he set the standard.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:21 am
I think these would have been a shoe-in for the record if Jackson had decided to add the Silver Certificate decks to this Kickstarter, but I don't think we'll see it set a new record now. I am disappointed that Jackson decided, for whatever reason, to create a second Kickstarter for the Silver edition decks, as us international buyers are going to get screwed a second time around.elcyciB wrote:This deck is way far and away better designed than Pedale...(didn't pledge for that one)...hope it breaks the record.
The record would be a great achievement for him, but I think that Pedale set it at a time where there was perhaps not as much competition in the Kickstarter community for playing cards. I won't make a judgement on which cards are better/more deserving of the record, as I think both deserve commendation for the effort that has gone into them, are of different styles, and came out under different Kickstarter environments. I imagine Jackson is very happy with how well the decks have done anyway.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:04 am
I think spliting it into two was the better idea money wise. I am in $66 for this set of secks if he relesed the other decks with this one then I might be albe to push it to $77 or $88 if thr black deck came out too. but if he waites and does another KS then I would be in for another $40-70 insted of $22.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:46 am
I messaged Jackson about this issue a couple weeks back. Here was his response;Frequenter wrote:
I think these would have been a shoe-in for the record if Jackson had decided to add the Silver Certificate decks to this Kickstarter, but I don't think we'll see it set a new record now. I am disappointed that Jackson decided, for whatever reason, to create a second Kickstarter for the Silver edition decks, as us international buyers are going to get screwed a second time around.
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I decided to go ahead and pledge as I get two of each (branded and unbranded) and $22 for 8 decks was OK with me.Apologies. I will most likely have all four decks available in the next kickstarter if u want to wait.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:37 pm
That got me all O_O until I realised you meant $22 on shipping.Strag wrote:I decided to go ahead and pledge as I get two of each (branded and unbranded) and $22 for 8 decks was OK with me.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:46 pm
Honestly, Pedale was a mystery to me. The design was only OK, not great. The tuck box was individually serialized, which is awesome, but otherwise very plain. What you received for a $15 price point was very underwhelming. I think it got a boost by being featured in some other social media sites and design blogs, and the designer promoted the deck very well and efficiently.
I much prefer the design of the Fed 52, and I'm assuming the box will have some nice embossing and foiling. Plus, the companion Gold Certificate deck was offered at a much more reasonable $11 price point, so you're getting much more bang for the buck with the Fed 52 over the Pedale. I think one factor that may hold the Fed 52 deck from breaking Pedale's sales record is the convoluted and evolving reward tiers.
I think if Jackson designed custom brick boxes for both the Fed 52 and Gold Certificate decks and had a reward tier that featured both bricks in the custom brick boxes, that would've been a very attractive high-dollar tier that would've lured a lot of backers and gotten him over the hump for the record. But even if Jackson doesn't break Pedale's record, he still had a wildly successful campaign, and with his positive conduct in this current campaign, I know he garnered enough good will so that his next deck release will be as highly regarded and amply funded as well.
I much prefer the design of the Fed 52, and I'm assuming the box will have some nice embossing and foiling. Plus, the companion Gold Certificate deck was offered at a much more reasonable $11 price point, so you're getting much more bang for the buck with the Fed 52 over the Pedale. I think one factor that may hold the Fed 52 deck from breaking Pedale's sales record is the convoluted and evolving reward tiers.
I think if Jackson designed custom brick boxes for both the Fed 52 and Gold Certificate decks and had a reward tier that featured both bricks in the custom brick boxes, that would've been a very attractive high-dollar tier that would've lured a lot of backers and gotten him over the hump for the record. But even if Jackson doesn't break Pedale's record, he still had a wildly successful campaign, and with his positive conduct in this current campaign, I know he garnered enough good will so that his next deck release will be as highly regarded and amply funded as well.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:27 pm
So Mr. Jackson added poker chips as an add-on today and the design is good enough that I would have gotten the set but not for $10. oh well I do not need another cover anyway.
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Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:58 pm
Hey Guys, I just wanted to give you guys a special thanks for all of the help an constructive comments you have given me throughout the project. Thanks for helping me make an ok deck even better.
Jackson
Jackson
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:17 am
I hadn't noticed the unbranded decks until now.
Jackson: Is it possible to get the unbranded decks instead of the branded ones, or is adding them on the only way to get them? Because I'd rather just have the unbranded ones tbh.
Jackson: Is it possible to get the unbranded decks instead of the branded ones, or is adding them on the only way to get them? Because I'd rather just have the unbranded ones tbh.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:35 am
Totally possible. Simply pledge $22 and select no reward and your done. Once the campaign is over you will be able to specify which UN branded 2 decks you want. Selecting "no reward" doesn't mean you won't get anything it just means you don't want to pledge for any of the specific pledge tiers.MagikFingerz wrote:I hadn't noticed the unbranded decks until now.
Jackson: Is it possible to get the unbranded decks instead of the branded ones, or is adding them on the only way to get them? Because I'd rather just have the unbranded ones tbh.
Jackson
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:40 am
I'm currently on the "Ace of Diamonds Celebration Deck / International Backers be sure to add $7 for shipping" pledge level. If I do what you said, how much shipping will I have to add?JacksonRobinson wrote:Totally possible. Simply pledge $22 and select no reward and your done. Once the campaign is over you will be able to specify which UN branded 2 decks you want. Selecting "no reward" doesn't mean you won't get anything it just means you don't want to pledge for any of the specific pledge tiers.MagikFingerz wrote:I hadn't noticed the unbranded decks until now.
Jackson: Is it possible to get the unbranded decks instead of the branded ones, or is adding them on the only way to get them? Because I'd rather just have the unbranded ones tbh.
Jackson
Sorry if I'm asking questions that might be glaringly obvious
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:01 am
you might lose your etra deck if you make the change.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:25 am
If your just grabbing two decks total then shipping will be $13.MagikFingerz wrote:I'm currently on the "Ace of Diamonds Celebration Deck / International Backers be sure to add $7 for shipping" pledge level. If I do what you said, how much shipping will I have to add?JacksonRobinson wrote:Totally possible. Simply pledge $22 and select no reward and your done. Once the campaign is over you will be able to specify which UN branded 2 decks you want. Selecting "no reward" doesn't mean you won't get anything it just means you don't want to pledge for any of the specific pledge tiers.MagikFingerz wrote:I hadn't noticed the unbranded decks until now.
Jackson: Is it possible to get the unbranded decks instead of the branded ones, or is adding them on the only way to get them? Because I'd rather just have the unbranded ones tbh.
Jackson
Sorry if I'm asking questions that might be glaringly obvious
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:42 am
Oh yeah, there's that too. Ugh, this is why I don't like kickstarter.DukeBoy wrote:you might lose your etra deck if you make the change.
Jackson: If I keep my pledge, can I request that the extra deck be UNbranded?
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:48 am
MagikFingerz wrote:Oh yeah, there's that too. Ugh, this is why I don't like kickstarter.DukeBoy wrote:you might lose your etra deck if you make the change.
Jackson: If I keep my pledge, can I request that the extra deck be UNbranded?
Can I mix decks in the multiple deck tiers?
Unfortunately when the pledge tiers were created there was only 1 deck. The Original Bicycle Branded Decks which are $15 each instead of $11. So the tiers are prices for those decks not the other three. Unless it specifically states other wise in the tier description when it says "decks" in the description it is only referring to Bicycle Branded Federal 52 Decks. If you would like any Bicycle Branded Gold Cert Decks, Unbranded Federal 52 Decks, Unbranded Gold Cert Decks you will need to treat those as add ons and adjust your pledge accordingly. Thank you for your patience.
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:30 pm
2 Hours to go. Here's the latest update:
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"Project Update #46 - My last request!
Hey guys you have been so amazingly awesome throughout this campaign. I would be lying if I were to tell you that I didn't want US to break kickstarter records and for the Federal 52 to become the highest grossing deck project to date.
As I'm writing this update we are sitting at $135,621 we need to rise above $146,595 in less than two hours to break the record.
What I am asking of you is for every single backer to pledge (add on) for 1 more deck ($11). If every backer pledges for one more deck and we break the record I will create 1 more poker chip just for my kickstarter backers and you will all receive the poker chip for free, as a thank you for making this campaign so awesome. I will also sign one deck for ALL of my 2500+ backers.
To do this simply click the manage my pledge button and the add $11 to your base pledge. There is no need to change tiers you adding $11 will lock you in for an extra deck.
Lets do this
Thank you everybody, from the bottom of my heart.
Jackson"
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I would do it... if only I wasn't already selling my first born to pay for my current pledge amount
What about you?
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"Project Update #46 - My last request!
Hey guys you have been so amazingly awesome throughout this campaign. I would be lying if I were to tell you that I didn't want US to break kickstarter records and for the Federal 52 to become the highest grossing deck project to date.
As I'm writing this update we are sitting at $135,621 we need to rise above $146,595 in less than two hours to break the record.
What I am asking of you is for every single backer to pledge (add on) for 1 more deck ($11). If every backer pledges for one more deck and we break the record I will create 1 more poker chip just for my kickstarter backers and you will all receive the poker chip for free, as a thank you for making this campaign so awesome. I will also sign one deck for ALL of my 2500+ backers.
To do this simply click the manage my pledge button and the add $11 to your base pledge. There is no need to change tiers you adding $11 will lock you in for an extra deck.
Lets do this
Thank you everybody, from the bottom of my heart.
Jackson"
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I would do it... if only I wasn't already selling my first born to pay for my current pledge amount
What about you?
Re: Bicycle 'Federal 52' - LIVE on Kickstarter
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:15 pm
Congrats Jackson.
I love this deck, but kickstarter makes me want to club a baby seal with managing my pledge.
I love this deck, but kickstarter makes me want to club a baby seal with managing my pledge.