I guess that depends how many were printed to begin with.montenzi wrote:It's very unusual to waitThirdway Industries wrote:EPCC printed some more to sell on their own, I've got only 432 that were sold out long time ago.4 years
with >1000 decks in stock
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Evil Deck is much different than any other deck I've ever produced - design every single card is very complicated, and I think the real value of that deck is there. Of course I am aware it doesn't have the details nor the "experience" I've put in my more recent decks. However, it will always have a special place in my heart, because without Evil Deck, I won't probably have made all the others
@chicken_ql - If I remember well, EPCC printed 2000, and 432 of those were mine. So they have more than I had. But I am not aware how many they have left.
@Timmargh - The main thing that is stopping me to print Good Deck is that I won't be probably able to make it with the same technology of Evil (was printed 4 yrs ago, too many things changed meanwhile).
One of my temptations is print another version of Evil AND the Good, maybe with USPCC, but I am still not sure to do that. Actually many people asked, so it might worth the trouble
Thanks for the feedback!
Evil Deck is much different than any other deck I've ever produced - design every single card is very complicated, and I think the real value of that deck is there. Of course I am aware it doesn't have the details nor the "experience" I've put in my more recent decks. However, it will always have a special place in my heart, because without Evil Deck, I won't probably have made all the others

@chicken_ql - If I remember well, EPCC printed 2000, and 432 of those were mine. So they have more than I had. But I am not aware how many they have left.
@Timmargh - The main thing that is stopping me to print Good Deck is that I won't be probably able to make it with the same technology of Evil (was printed 4 yrs ago, too many things changed meanwhile).
One of my temptations is print another version of Evil AND the Good, maybe with USPCC, but I am still not sure to do that. Actually many people asked, so it might worth the trouble

Thanks for the feedback!
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Hey, I love it. A deck doesn't have to be bling to be great.Räpylätassu wrote:I think it's an okay deck... And when compared to Gio's other work like Sins, Dedalo or Omnia: The Golden Age, it's about worthy enough to carry the groceries and wash the toilets of those decksTwoPiece wrote:The Evil Deck is probably my 3rd favorite Gio deck.Should not be even mentioned in the same sentence.
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Seven years later.....Thirdway Industries wrote: ↑Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:34 pm The only thing I'm not sure at the moment is the Good Deck.



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haha omg this thread resurrected!
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I liked the Evil Deck quite a lot when it hit the market - fun and whimsical. Now I kinda grew out of it and I doubt the art style - if not altered to an extent - will make me open my wallet for this set aka here's to hoping to a redesign and not just a reprint.
I'm very happy to see the Good deck come to life though regardless if I'm in or not.
I'm very happy to see the Good deck come to life though regardless if I'm in or not.
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The Evil Deck design is touched up a bit, but temper your expectationsHarvonsgard wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:46 pm aka here's to hoping to a redesign and not just a reprint.

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I figured. Thanks for the heads-up. No worries, I burried my expectations quite a while ago.
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This was an interesting find. Was browsing through his site for some info on other decks when I saw this.
https://www.thirdwayindustries.com/prod ... l-deck-v2/
https://www.thirdwayindustries.com/product/good-deck/
He's releasing an Evil v2 deck to go with his Good deck. (having problems uploading some of the pics, but you can go the site yourself to see the pics. (Good and evil deck v2 are the same pics and details)
Price: $25 per deck. As it's already up on his site, it's going to be sooner than later. Any patreons can help give us the expected launch date?
V2 updates:
The most important changes are the tuck boxes designs and colors.The new versions will be violet (Evil) and blue (Good). I’ve removed a lot of text from the tuckboxes and added some hidden faces
Both of these will have matching (and revised) card backs.
The other most important change is that I’ve swapped the original CYMK colors I used with PMS solid colors. This seems a subtle change, but it’s a big deal, since the new colors will be more vivid and they should improve the final result a lot.
https://www.thirdwayindustries.com/prod ... l-deck-v2/
https://www.thirdwayindustries.com/product/good-deck/
He's releasing an Evil v2 deck to go with his Good deck. (having problems uploading some of the pics, but you can go the site yourself to see the pics. (Good and evil deck v2 are the same pics and details)
Price: $25 per deck. As it's already up on his site, it's going to be sooner than later. Any patreons can help give us the expected launch date?
V2 updates:
The most important changes are the tuck boxes designs and colors.The new versions will be violet (Evil) and blue (Good). I’ve removed a lot of text from the tuckboxes and added some hidden faces
Both of these will have matching (and revised) card backs.
The other most important change is that I’ve swapped the original CYMK colors I used with PMS solid colors. This seems a subtle change, but it’s a big deal, since the new colors will be more vivid and they should improve the final result a lot.
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Despite having the Evil Deck for ages, it took me until now to realise the back of the Evil Deck feature a monster face, lol.
Since I'm no fan of the original handlingwise, I did plan to pick up a pair but the price is pushing me on the fence.
Since I'm no fan of the original handlingwise, I did plan to pick up a pair but the price is pushing me on the fence.
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I believe the price is high due to the costs of separating good and evil. True lab grade good/evil isolation is not cheap and normally only available to politicians.
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There will be an update very soon on these two! I just wanted to clarify that $25 is the final retail price, not the price I'll use at launch 
Launch price will be way lower, both for Patrons (that will have of course the best deal possible) but also for general public.

Launch price will be way lower, both for Patrons (that will have of course the best deal possible) but also for general public.
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That is great news. I guess you got me off the fence again
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If you are interested, preorders are live! > https://www.thirdsiren.it/good-and-evil-store/
Shipping prices are "kickstarter like" and extremely good (free for USA, supercheap for Zone1, still good for "World").
These are part of Patreon Q2 - the decks are ready and will be delivered for sure sooner than expected. There are several pics on the product pages if you're curious - I just posted few.
Shipping prices are "kickstarter like" and extremely good (free for USA, supercheap for Zone1, still good for "World").
These are part of Patreon Q2 - the decks are ready and will be delivered for sure sooner than expected. There are several pics on the product pages if you're curious - I just posted few.
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Says no one ever.Thirdway Industries wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:57 pm ...the decks are ready and will be delivered for sure sooner than expected.
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Hello TWI Family! I’ve announced the first 2023 Patreon decks: Evil Deck Black Blood and Good Deck Pink Heaven. These are 100% Patreon exclusive — included as Patreon rewards, but NOT available for purchase. Not even for Patrons! ... The boxes are made by B&N with a lot of features: premium texured paper - iridescent on the Good Deck - embossing and foil, inside and outside the box. ... Both versions are also gilded - Blood Red for the Evil Deck, Purple/Pink for the Good Deck
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Evil Deck "Hellfire" edition and Good Deck "Shiny Halo" edition.

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Re: Evil Deck and Good Deck by Giovanni (TWI)
I'm not generally a fan of having multiples of the same deck ( I already have 2 of each in different tucks) even with a tuck swap and these are definitely not my favorite of the decks Gio has done so I'm probably not even going to open these. I'm sure others will be happy with these though and overall I still find his patreon a good value.
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I feel the same about multiples, and I didn't open the previous limited versions. But I am altogether satisfied with the Patreon rewards. I only upgraded to a Sword tier last year in anticipation of Hybris.Adamthinks wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:57 pm I'm not generally a fan of having multiples of the same deck ( I already have 2 of each in different tucks) even with a tuck swap and these are definitely not my favorite of the decks Gio has done so I'm probably not even going to open these. I'm sure others will be happy with these though and overall I still find his patreon a good value.
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Unfortunately it is not :/
Just like the SINS Legacy with the snake like skin box
Just like the SINS Legacy with the snake like skin box
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I didn't get those. None the less, the appeal is understandable for some. I'm pretty sure I've had enough but maybe he'll tease something amazing for the new year. It would have to blow my socks off though.laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:15 am Unfortunately it is not :/
Just like the SINS Legacy with the snake like skin box
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