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Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:46 pm
by Fenrir
I guess we will wait and see. This is a long game April fools joke it appears.
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:02 pm
by GandalfPC
I think even if it was meant as a joke it still becomes law if he doesn’t recant by end of April 2nd…
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:11 pm
by montenzi
Ok
I tested ChatGPT
It was not me! That first text was 100% AI generated! I started a chat and then asked ChatGPT to say something silly about me designing playing cards with standard courts. End of story!
![Ugly Grin :uggrin:](./images/smilies/icon_ugly.gif)
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:45 am
by Eric Lee
Wow, that was an awesome April Fools! Not just any old April Fools, but an AI generated April Fool's joke! You win the UC April Fool's 2023 no prize!
UC Mods, what fabulous no prize does he get for this?
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:57 pm
by GandalfPC
He wins one AI generated image of a furry animal carrying carrying a small pile of swag
And yes, the furry animal is especially AI horrific
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:55 pm
by montenzi
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:49 pm
by Bikefanatic
I got my deck today!
I only got the green one. As soon as I took the cards out of the plastic, I fanned them and it was so damn smooth. The fan pattern looks great and so does the cold foil on the faces.
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 10:32 pm
by CourtCurator
Looks like mine are supposed to arrive tomorrow. I’m super excited to get these. If they look as good as the pics, they may be in my top 10 favorite decks.
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:27 pm
by rousselle
Just got mine today. Received all three designs. Opened one of each, starting with the "Classic," then the Purple and, following that, the green.
Like CourtCurator said above, these fan brilliantly. All three designs are top notch, but as someone else noted above, Montenzi is absolutely the master when it comes to getting the best out of cold foil Hoo-wee! Loved the classic, and loved-loved the purple and green.
What a fantastic set of cards.
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:28 pm
by hsbc
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:52 pm
by Adamthinks
The visual effect he achieved with foil on these is pretty rad. For those that don't have the cards, the two card backs pictured here are different colors of the identical design. The light is just hitting them at a different angle. You can see the transition on the bottom left of the purple back. It switches back and forth as you move them in the light.
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:03 am
by montenzi
hsbc wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:28 pm
...
@hsbc, THANK YOU!!!
Adamthinks wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:52 pm
The visual effect he achieved with foil on these is pretty rad. For those that don't have the cards, the two card backs pictured here are different colors of the identical design. The light is just hitting them at a different angle. You can see the transition on the bottom left of the purple back. It switches back and forth as you move them in the light.
I agree, but you can only see this effect exclusively on the Purple deck in foil, as the designs are distinct. It's a photo of prototypes (without foil):
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Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:08 am
by vasta41
Got these a few days ago. Another solid Montenzi deck!
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:16 pm
by GandalfTheWhite
Received couple of days ago. My first Montenzi deck. I got the green one and it is spectacular. The really like that one of the double backer side is the purple deck back
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:27 am
by GandalfPC
Half brick box just as pretty
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:48 am
by wingedpotato
So glad hsbc posted his pics. These decks are SO lovely. It has been a long time since a deck made me really wish I had a regular card game group to break it out on.
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi - FULFILLMENT
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:41 pm
by montenzi
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:00 pm
by rousselle
Here's my non-video review:
VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi are a 10 out of 10.
Thank you for attending my non-video TEDTalk.
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:00 am
by redux
I wonder what is the situation with the AI decks?
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:07 am
by montenzi
redux wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:00 am
I wonder what is the situation with the AI decks?
In short, we need an ad text saying "one year in the making"
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
My fault.
I intended to post an update this month, but time got away from me
![Embarrassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
Previously, I delayed this project for creative reasons, unsatisfied with the art. I aimed to complete and produce both decks by September/October, but my WJPC representative left the company, and then they provided a new prohibitive quote for printing 250 decks. Opting to launch Legendarium first and complete/print AI decks with Legendarium is now a 100% management decision. Many other things have happened since August, so now it is what it is.
What I know for sure:
1. I will produce both decks
2. The old pre-order price is still valid, so backers will not pay more.
3. Most likely, I'll need some profit from this project
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
so for new pre-orders/retail, it will be in the $20-25 range (vs. $12). I don't know.
4. I'll also accept no-questions-asked refund requests.
I apologize for the delay.
p.s. AI decks UC thread:
https://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopi ... =8&t=22312
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:05 am
by redux
Thank you for the update! And sorry for not seeing the corresponding thread.
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:28 am
by montenzi
redux wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:05 am
Thank you for the update! And sorry for not seeing the corresponding thread.
Thank you for asking this question!
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:06 am
by montenzi
One example of using
AI in playing card design:
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:10 am
by montenzi
This:
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Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:14 am
by Harvonsgard
No seven fingers on the hand and readable letter on the index? I'm quite disappointed./s
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:18 am
by GandalfPC
it does look like the AI shaded the image as to make it one way
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:44 am
by montenzi
GandalfPC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:18 am
it does look like the AI shaded the image as to make it one way
Full disclosure
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
This system is quite good, but... it does not fully understand the anatomy of figures with symmetry, particularly the head at the bottom of the card. That's why I still need to replace this head. It's an easy fix. Otherwise, it follows the symmetry and lines very well. Heads are always an exception.
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Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:01 am
by Evilgamer
montenzi wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:44 am
GandalfPC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:18 am
it does look like the AI shaded the image as to make it one way
Full disclosure
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
This system is quite good, but... it does not fully understand the anatomy of figures with symmetry, particularly the head at the bottom of the card. That's why I still need to replace this head. It's an easy fix. Otherwise, it follows the symmetry and lines very well. Heads are always an exception.
lol.jpg
I dunno makes for a very interesting one way court
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:03 am
by montenzi
Just another proof of concept—a slightly different retro style, this time with
back design by AI
Unedited images without color correction but with fixed heads. In theory, the back design should be manually edited to improve symmetry and add/redraw details.
Conclusion: At this moment, AI can be used to design or improve decks based on initial line art or sketches. With some post-processing, it is impossible to tell if the artwork was created/colored by AI or not, especially if the artist is new to the community. With a more extensive and less obvious workflow, it is possible to design a deck from scratch (back design is an example).
P.S. Yes, I will produce an AI version (TBA/TBC).
![Image](http://old.montenzi.nz/varius-ai2.jpg)
Re: VARIUS Playing Cards by Montenzi (KS)
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:37 pm
by Harvonsgard
Shading on those looks great indeed. I skipped the OGs mostly due to being Cartamundi but I might be in for the AI enhanced ones.