Tally-Ho Emerald Edition from King's Wild Project

[vasta41]

Happy I got in on these. Tally Hos will always be my favorite USPCC deck and Jackson has outdone himself yet again!

[EvanEssence]

I had a plan I was backer #28 for this one (I literally could not have paid any faster) and went straight for the throat with the 2 gilded. I bet plenty of people lost precious time going for the legacy editions that were and in doing so missed out on gilded.

[volantangel]

I had a plan I was backer #28 for this one (I literally could not have paid any faster) and went straight for the throat with the 2 gilded. I bet plenty of people lost precious time going for the legacy editions that were and in doing so missed out on gilded.

Lol i had time to try 3 different tiers before going for the gilded, wasnt too bad. All the tiers i got past the credit card stage before they told me it was sold out. That said, if anyone is dropping a legacy ed, let me know

[nECr0MaNCeD]

Amazing... I was #46. I was straight in and took no more than 5 seconds going to my tier and paid as fast as possible.....

[Bikefanatic]

It was already over $2000 like the first 5 seconds I got there. Hell, I didn't even read the descriptions (which takes up pledging time), I just picked a random tier.

[chach]

They were all blank when I loaded, scrolled to the bottom and saw the price on the brick box and instead went for the 2 of everything tier. Still ended up being backer #24. Glad I didn't go for the brick, if I had probably would've missed out on any legacy edition deck. This stuff is starting to get crazy, wish I had his eye for design.

BTW Is there even a market for custom storage boxes? Cause they're easy to make, but I figure most of the draw for the display boxes put out by the likes of JR and UUSI aren't the design themselves but because of who they're made by.

[Mike Ratledge]

People on FB are discussing the $60 pens. My response:

Well said, De! Unburdening your soul is always cathartic! Now, the pens by definition are a work of art. Just like a deck of cards, they are worth precisely what you can get someone to pay for it. $60 is not cheap, but if you don't want one - pretty simple, invest your money elsewhere. I don't collect Mont Blanc pens, which is a good thing, since some of them go for hundreds of dollars. (I've seen them advertised for in excess of $1000 US) De made a LOT of good points, bottom line - with art of any kind, you pay for what you like, and I can assure you that Jackson isn't making a lot of money - if he's even actually breaking even considering the time it takes to make each one. That's likely not what a lot of you expected from me, right? Lighten up, folks. You want one, you think it's not worth $60, nobody is making you buy one, now are they? If someone buys one for $60, they obviously appreciate the art - and the time he put in to make them.

[Eoghann]

People can instinctively say: "it's a frickin pen, why is it so expensive?" If the video isn't proof enough, the amount of labor put into handcrafting it alone is worth the price. It's not something he just popped in the microwave and it was done.

Every handcrafted item Jackson has done is beautiful. Miles beyond what I'm comfortable spending but that by no means indicates it's not worth the price.

[badpete69]

That's actually cheap for high end pens.. I remember the Mont Blanc pens 20 years ago being over $100

[Sher]

If anyone is giving up the one of each tier, please PM me. Or, if you have the two of each tier, maybe we can split the cost?

[snsdmonkey]

If anyone is giving up the one of each tier, please PM me. Or, if you have the two of each tier, maybe we can split the cost?

Interested in this as well...

[chach]

That's actually cheap for high end pens.. I remember the Mont Blanc pens 20 years ago being over $100

Way over $100. Hell I carry a fountain pen daily that costs around $60 and that's considered a lower end pen. High end pens are easily a few hundred dollars if not a few thousand. But there is definitely something about writing with a nice flowing fountain pen with beautiful ink rather than a cheap BIC that you just toss away.

That said though, the best portion of these pens is the bit turned by Jackson, and thats where your price comes from.

[sinjin7]

I have a Mont Blanc 149 that I've had for over 20 years. Its big, and its an iconic classic and it's going to cost you over $900.00 if you want to buy one today. I have a Waterman demonstrator that I'm very fond of that's up there in price as well. I'm with Chach, I'm a fountain pen guy all the way (I try to avoid ball point pens whenever possible) and my daily user is a TWSBI - a quality mid-level fountain pen that is a piston-filler but priced more like an entry level pen at $55.00 - I would definitely recommend a TWSBI for anyone looking to break into fountain pens.

I'm a bit amused by the debate over the Tally Ho pen and the pricing of it. Is it a high end pen? No, but it wouldn't be fair to compare this to Mont Blanc's or Visconti's. Jackson isn't marketing this pen to pen snobs, but rather to his fans who are card collectors. I think the more relative discussion would be how we're getting a custom deck from Jackson that's priced at $7.00 per deck shipped that's not produced in the tens of thousands. I'm much more excited about that.

[Lydian]

There's a free green gatorbacks being shipped to anyone who wants to give up a nice tier either with 2 silver gilding or one with the wooden box. Will need to organise a time with me to drop. If interested please PM me and we can sort out over skype.

[EvanEssence]

No more tiers are available on the project

[Eoghann]

No more tiers are available on the project

I've always wondered if the "I just want to help the project" could be used at the very least for addons. If that's a possibility you could get in in the display decks. Maybe ask Jackson about it?

[Marcus]

I believe they've stated in the comments that you need to have pledged for one of the deck tiers to be able to add on display decks, so you can't just pledge $1 and then grab display decks.

[JacksonRobinson]

No more tiers are available on the project

I've always wondered if the "I just want to help the project" could be used at the very least for addons. If that's a possibility you could get in in the display decks. Maybe ask Jackson about it?

Unfortunately all of the tiers are gone and I will not be releasing any more tiers. As for using the "$1" tier, I've thought about adding one of those but for me and my approach on the Scarlett's and Emerald's, this would be counteractive. I wanted the display decks to be a great value and more importantly a special perk for the backers.

As for the Pens...

Sinji7 got exactly right. I am in no way a Mont Blonc craftsmen for sure. I simply am very fond of everything handmade, and nice pens have always interested me. I'm always trying and learning new things. Sinjin is also right when he says I'm not marketing my pens to pen collectors, they would most definitely laugh at my pens. I am marketing my pens to card collectors. The thing I like most about the card pens is that no ones is doing this type of work (at least that I can find) and that really excites me.

[vasta41]

I like the pen add-on idea. Now having said that, I'm not an add-on guy at all but I do appreciate creative add-ons. Just think- this year alone we've already seen bowling pins, stamps and now pens! Pretty cool variations of your standard coins/chips.

[Mike Ratledge]

Thank you all! Anyone trying to get that I am comparing these to Mont Blanc et al isn't reading it correctly, and I am keenly aware that you can not read between the lines. That's like comparing apples to oranges, as I have heard. The only way to do that is if you are eating a fruit salad.

Someone has asked where the original tome De Hudson wrote was on Facebook, and it is in a private group. I cannot forward, nor have I asked De if it's OK to do so.

[JacksonRobinson]

I haven't read D's reply either, lol I am banned from that FB group. It's easy to talk trash when you ban the person your talking trash too... just my thoughts.

[sms69x]

... I think the more relative discussion would be how we're getting a custom deck from Jackson that's priced at $7.00 per deck shipped that's not produced in the tens of thousands. I'm much more excited about that.

Yes I think this is the main point that we should discuss, a beautifull deck for just $9 (international), when others charge a standard $12+...
But this leads me to another question, clarely this will be a limited edition, but not of 700, this will be more than 3000+, thus, for the limited emerald edition (without gilding) we are in reality paying $30 (international) for a tuck swap... Well, not that this tuck is not worth to pay a little more for, but paying an extra $21 for just a tuck swap is a bit of a streach...
Of course if you don't pleadge for any tier than you wont be able to get your hands on a beautiful display deck for just $9.

Just my thoughs on this, pledged for 2x - Silver Edition Emerald Tally Ho with Silver Foil Gilded Edges, because I couldn't justify paying $30 for the standard edtion, after what I expose above....

Congratulations Jackson for another winner (too bad I haven't received my Scarlett decks yet....)

[Eoghann]

It's a high end tuck swap tho. I remember Jackson saying the synthetic material alone is very pricy. So pricy that it's not even offered in the catalog I think? I'm paraphrasing here. Same with the Theory11 Medallions tuck.

[Marcus]

... I think the more relative discussion would be how we're getting a custom deck from Jackson that's priced at $7.00 per deck shipped that's not produced in the tens of thousands. I'm much more excited about that.

Yes I think this is the main point that we should discuss, a beautifull deck for just $9 (international), when others charge a standard $12+...
But this leads me to another question, clarely this will be a limited edition, but not of 700, this will be more than 3000+, thus, for the limited emerald edition (without gilding) we are in reality paying $30 (international) for a tuck swap... Well, not that this tuck is not worth to pay a little more for, but paying an extra $21 for just a tuck swap is a bit of a streach...
Of course if you don't pleadge for any tier than you wont be able to get your hands on a beautiful display deck for just $9.

Just my thoughs on this, pledged for 2x - Silver Edition Emerald Tally Ho with Silver Foil Gilded Edges, because I couldn't justify paying $30 for the standard edtion, after what I expose above....

Congratulations Jackson for another winner (too bad I haven't received my Scarlett decks yet....)

Feels like a bit of faulty logic though. You've pledged for the Emerald Tally-Ho decks. The display decks are an add-on, so they're not really part of the initial project. Looking at it like this, you're getting the opportunity to pay less for a few extra decks that has a less expensive tuck case. Not more for the initial decks.

It's a high tuck swap tho. I remember Jackson saying the synthetic material alone is very pricy. So pricy that it's not even offered in the catalog I think? I'm paraphrasing here. Same with the Theory11 Medallions tuck.

Yep, these decks are expensive as hell to print in these limited quantities.

[Gareth]

... I think the more relative discussion would be how we're getting a custom deck from Jackson that's priced at $7.00 per deck shipped that's not produced in the tens of thousands. I'm much more excited about that.

Yes I think this is the main point that we should discuss, a beautifull deck for just $9 (international), when others charge a standard $12+...
But this leads me to another question, clarely this will be a limited edition, but not of 700, this will be more than 3000+, thus, for the limited emerald edition (without gilding) we are in reality paying $30 (international) for a tuck swap... Well, not that this tuck is not worth to pay a little more for, but paying an extra $21 for just a tuck swap is a bit of a streach...
Of course if you don't pleadge for any tier than you wont be able to get your hands on a beautiful display deck for just $9.

Just to be devils advocate for a minute;
$30 (for international) gets you membership to an exclusive club, which happens to have a nice deck with shipping included. You can then buy a limited number of identical decks - in a different tuck - to go with that membership.

I get that if you compare this with some other random KS project where a tuck swap is used to make a 'limited edition' then could be seen as an expensive version of that. However, look at the long term value of Jackson's decks - there aren't many KS funded decks which compare with the perceived value as many of Jackson's are.

I'm sure everyone here - except Jackson - would be happier if the costs to pledge for these decks where lower, but you tell that to all the people who missed out. Tell that to the many here who are searching for a Scarlett Tally or two - or that guy who paid $603 for a legacy set last week.

If you're a serious collector; the $20 (+shipping) for a 1 in 700 deck isn't that bad a deal. (How much does a white centurion, or a 1st Ed Black Ghost go for these days?) If you're more into the actual decks than the collectability of the whole package you're left with trading with someone who got a spare display deck or two.

[Mike Ratledge]

I haven't read D's reply either, lol I am banned from that FB group. It's easy to talk trash when you ban the person your talking trash too... just my thoughts.

Actually, both Damien ("De") Hudson and myself are on your side of the fence, Jackson. It's the idiot syndrome in motion, and I know that you aren't there to defend nor refute what they say. Curious, we were told that you asked to be removed, but - understand that you can't respond to that either, since you never saw it.

De wrote an empassioned tome about why it is a bargain if you even looked at it, much less spent more than 10 minutes on each. He's right, "they" were taking advantage of the fact that they know you can't refute the BS ( De actually didn't know that until I told him).

It's a spurious argument, and neither of us is willing to let people trash you knowing that you cannot respond.

[JacksonRobinson]

Hey guys. I just wanted to give you a heads up that at 6pm central I will be opening up 5 new slots at the higher tier levels. All new slots will include Legacy Editions.

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[badpete69]

Get ready guys and gals

At 6pm central time I will be opening up 2 more H1 Tiers & 3 more K1 slots.

[Cbkimble]

Damn, that was fast. Missed again.

[SpecialK]

Intense. Upgraded to H1. Whew.