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A Grimauld deck from 1978 titled "Jules Verne"to start. Scans of this deck can be found in the France section of the"Worldwide"thread.
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Next a couple of Piatnik decks produced for the National portrait Gallery in london, dated 1998.
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A couple of modern decks next.
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And a Waddingtons deck to finish.
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Got a Kickstarter in today from Gamblers,Black & Gold Guild Poker set. The plastic box fell apart when i took it out of the card outer sleeve :roll: .
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Some Red & Blues next, The Emu brand from China and the Stratus brand are made by Carta mundi from Belgium.
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A double deck for the company Aspinals of London,Standard court design. The jokers look like they were designed by either Vargas or Elvgren.
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And a double Waddingtons to finish the post.
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A single deck from the Worshipful Company of Card Makers ,dated 1928. Celebrating the Tercentenary of the granting of the charter to the company by King Charles 1st in 1628, the pack was produced by Goodalls & Son and the back has a painting of King Charles 1st by Vandyke.
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A couple of Modern decks next.
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A couple of decks made in China by the Fairy brand.
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And last today a single deck from Waddingtons.
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Is there any indication of what that image is on the back of the Waddington Jase?
It's rather bizarre. The feathered figure seems to have bird feet that are grasping the arms of the man.
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dazzleguts wrote:Is there any indication of what that image is on the back of the Waddington Jase?
It's rather bizarre. The feathered figure seems to have bird feet that are grasping the arms of the man.
Hiya Dazzelguts :D

Its a Painting by Herbert Draper called the lament for icarus (1898)

i think those are arm straps for the wings and not birds feet
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:oops: Of course.
I mistook the woman behind his head to be the owner of the wings. Now it's just another painting of nude figures with the excuse of a classical subject :lol: , not that anyone minds ;) .
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:D :D :D 5000 views :D :D :D
A BIG thanks to everyone for looking at my collection

I got the "Aves" kickstarter in the weekend.very cool back design 8-)
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A 1999 reprint by Grimauld next. titles "Epitre Aux Dames"this deck was first printed in 1820.
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A deck from Intercol of london, the deck is titled "The Regency deck".
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And last today a Waddingtons deck from the Beautiful Britain Series showing Buckingham Palace on the back.
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5000 partay!

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A few Kicstarters in over the week .first of the MUERTOS decks by Steve Minty.
Heres the Black and white decks with some dice.
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Next up a facsimile of Marlborough`s Victories first published in 1707. This pack was published by Harry Margary in 1972.
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The three coloured decks from the Muertos campaign.
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And a couple of Advertising deck`s by Waddingtons to finish the post.
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This Zombie kickstarter came yesterday from ZombieDollar creative.
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A pack from Israel next, this pack was printed by the Amalgamated Playing card Company in 1969, and was published by the Lion Playing card factory in Tel Aviv for the EL AL Airlines.
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The next deck was printed in 1995 for the British Museum.
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And last today a Waddingtons pack. the Chatsworth brand was produced exclusively for Boots the chemist.
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Inspiring. I guess I have one accomplice in my possible preparation of a petition to Winning Moves with the demand to start reprinting of old Waddington decks.
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Collector wrote:Inspiring. I guess I have one accomplice in my possible preparation of a petition to Winning Moves with the demand to start reprinting of old Waddington decks.
Thanks for the compliment...Will need to find out what rights Winning moves actually have..i think it`s just for the Number 1 Brand..but printing old Waddingtons gets my backing :drool:

A new kickstarter in today, the Magical Realism Tarot deck by Cheryl Fair.
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A few decks that have by Hook or by Crook found their way into my possession.
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A Swiss deck next titled Schwyzer Fasnachts-Jass designed by Leon Schnyder. No mention of Manufacturer or date.
Fasnacht is an old custom that is held between winter and spring. In each region of central Switzerland "Fasnacht" developed into different forms, The Scwwyzer Festival is a type of Street Carnival.
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And a couple of Maro Branded Waddingtons decks to finish off today, these deck were made specially for Club Cards Ltd.
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A very large parcel came this morning 8-)
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the card came in a week or so ago from lorenzo ,so have been waiting for this package with eager anticipation. :drool: :drool:
Next up a pack from french maker Dusserre titled "Prise de la bastille". Scans of this deck can be found in the french section of the "Worldwide" thread.
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A few modern decks.
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And last a tax wrapped advertising deck from Waddingtons .
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A package came today. 5 Packs of cards as a result of a Trade with friend from the forum...Thanks again Daniel :D
The first two packs are a pair of Brimstones.
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Here`s a pack from Russia, not much is known but the bottom of the tuck has - Made in Russia AKM http://www.russouvenirs.ru" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; printedon it
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The other three packs i recieved from Eoghann.
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And last today a Canasta set from De La Rue. De la rue took over Goodalls in 1921 but continued producing cards with the goodalls name up until 1956.
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Love those americanas, those were one of the first decks i got that really wowed me
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volantangel wrote:Love those americanas, those were one of the first decks i got that really wowed me
Hiya Volantangel :D
I had no prior knowledge of the decks when i traded for them..they were just decks that i didn`t have. After opening them i can see why you like the americanas, very cool courts especially the Queens. I do like the Party animal pack the best though as the courts are fun.
Here`s a kickstarter i got this morning. Jody Eklunds "Golden Spike"
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Next a Caspari Double deck printed by Carta mundi. the backs show some wallpaper designs by William Morris.
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A double De La Rue set next advertising British Road Services. the Ace is dated 1957-1960.
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And last today a single Waddingtons Advertising deck.
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Just saw that De la Rue Canasta set with the wheel backs. I wonder if those are contemporary with the USPCC and Piatnik wheel backs? A popular form that crossed borders.
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dazzleguts wrote:Just saw that De la Rue Canasta set with the wheel backs. I wonder if those are contemporary with the USPCC and Piatnik wheel backs? A popular form that crossed borders.
Hiya Dazzelguts :D
The Ace on those cards is dated 1950-1955, around the time of the Big Canasta craze. The Backs are probably a reprint of an earlier goodalls back design,although i can`t find any in the WWPCM ,there are some very similar, for example d01521r063.
Goodalls had dealings in America & Canada in the late 1800 into the early 1900`s, most notably with Victor Mauger. It made great business sense to take what he was seeing in the American playing card Market (i.e the popularity of the "Bicycle" brand) and bringing those ideas home to the British Market.
There are many backs that are similar in design to those of the Bicycle brand which are dated 1900-1910 (i can`t find any before that date) which can be seen in the WWPCM on pages d01521r1900 & d01521r1910
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Thanks Jase :)

I really like d01521r063, the one that is similar to yours but has the bike frame in it.

There are Acorn backs and Leaf backs as well.

Wonder how the wheels crossed over to Piatnik in Austria. I tried looking around Piatnik in WWPCM but ran out of time and had to give up. They have made so many cards.
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An all Waddingtons post today to mark my 1st anniversary of being a member of UnitedCardists. :D
Fist up a double deck with a groovy paisley pattern box.
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Next up a couple of Mastabar Belt Fastener Co advertising decks.
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Another advertising deck.
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And the last deck has no tuck box or jokers but is very exciting for me. The Ace shown is a Variation of the anonymous Ace used for The high-end decks waddingtons produced in the early 1930`s. This variation with the stripes inside the Ace was only used in 1935 and as the only example i have (or have seen so far) will do until i can "Trade up".
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Got the "Star Dek" kickstarter by Anna Kathleen in over the weekend. One pack signed :D
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A double deck advertising Alfred Dunhill ltd, Maker unknown i`m afraid.
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Madame Pompadour,A double deck from Piatnik specially made for Harrods.
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And last picture is a couple of decks by Waddingtons advertising the Cunard shipping line.
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Could you please post more photos and details about the Abbeys and Houses decks from this photo?

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ecNate wrote:Could you please post more photos and details about the Abbeys and Houses decks from this photo?
Hi there ecNate :D
Those decks were produced by Carta Mundi for "Heritage Toy & Game Co Ltd". Heritage do a large range of what i call educational cards, Each card has a picture with a name & location.Heritage has a huge range which can be seen here http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/WWPCM/uk/heritage.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here are some photos (I hope these help)
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Here`s a Venice Simplon Orient Express deck i`ve been looking out for. The "World of Playing Cards" has this listed as being produced by Waddingtons, but the WWPCM has it listed as being produced by Piatnik (d03749).
There are no makers marks anywhere on the cards i can see, so must say unknown maker for now.
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And last today a Beautiful Britain pack from Waddingtons.
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Wow, ask and ye shall receive! :lol: What a fast turnaround, thanks!

Sadly they are just the usual photo on a card souvenir kind of cards, I was hoping for more artistic style, but the theme is strong enough for me that I'll have to keep an eye out for these. Thanks for sharing, cheers!
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That's an interesting puzzle about the origin of the VSOE deck.

I would argue for Waddington over Piatnik, for 3 reasons:

1 - Piatnik tend to have their logo formed into the lids of their plastic boxes, and I can't see one here.
2 - Waddington owned Grimaud briefly and has a connection there, and the earlier 1984 VSOE deck was printed by Grimaud. (perhaps that argues for Grimaud/France-Cartes actually being the printer?)
3 - WWPCM has been wrong before. No criticism intended of Mr. Sukhorukov, the sheer size of WWPCM means many decks are not well researched.

None of that is concrete evidence though, so I sent a message to WOPC asking how they came to the conclusion of Waddington as the source.
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dazzleguts wrote:That's an interesting puzzle about the origin of the VSOE deck.

I would argue for Waddington over Piatnik.

None of that is concrete evidence though, so I sent a message to WOPC asking how they came to the conclusion of Waddington as the source.
Hi there Dazzelguts :D
Yes i think your right.
At least the two sources give the same date of Manufacture as 1990.
After comparing the Indices and the number cards to those used by Waddingtons at the time, they seem identical.
And also the plastic box (if original) has Made in England stamped on the underside.

I`m interested to hear what WOPC says on the matter ,thanks for sending a message.
I`ll wait before i post the scans in worldwide :D
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Simon Wintle was kind enough to respond to my question, and he indicated that the indices were his biggest reason for placing it with Waddingtons. The plastic box could very well be original to it too, since it's from 1990, so I think Waddingtons is a safe assumption.
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dazzleguts wrote:Simon Wintle was kind enough to respond to my question, and he indicated that the indices were his biggest reason for placing it with Waddingtons. The plastic box could very well be original to it too, since it's from 1990, so I think Waddingtons is a safe assumption.
Hiya Dazzelguts :D
Thanks for taking time out to ask the question,really appreciated,i`ve posted the courts in the English thread of the worldwide for anyone interested in seeing them.

Here`s a Worshipful Company deck that is not one of the annual installation decks ,but a special deck produced to mark the millennium.
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These packs were given out to members on the 6th July 2000 and were produced by Special Design Products, The Ace of spades show the companys Coat of Arms instead of the usual Masters portrait.One pack has Red boarders the other has gold,and as usual both decks are gilded.
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Heres a cool deck from Usborne called Playing Cards for children which is illustrated by JimField. After seeing Eoghann`s set in the "Look what i`ve added" thread i just had to get me a pack. :drool:
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And lastly another deck from Special design Products.After Waddingtons sold their Games Division to Hasbro in 1995 they set up a subsidary called S.D.P to handle all special orders this company lasted until around 2001-2002.
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i got this piece of early 1930`s advertising from e-bay a week or so ago. i was the only bidder, so i got a real bargain which i`m very pleased about. :D
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A few recently acquired modern decks.
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The rounders and Imps were not something i was actively seeking out, but i got them along with a few Dan & Dave decks in one lot for a real low price. :P
A early 1930`s deck from german manufacturer Ass, i`ve had this deck for a while and have posted scans of the cards in the german section of the worldwide forum.
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And last a Limited Edition Waddingtons deck made for the Queens Silver Anniversary. I have the standard edition single deck which has a different back design.
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A Double Worshipful company of makers of playing cards deck from 1990,produced by Waddingtons.In 1990-1991 the company had the honour of being the "mother" Livery of an Aldermanic Sheriff for the first time- Alderman Christopher Walford who was Master of the company in 1987-88.
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I bought a couple of empty cantilever boxes to hold some of my bridge sized decks that have no tucks. the decks shown are a couple of Piatnik decks.
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A cool Haribo Skat deck made by Ass.
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And to finish a couple of sealed Patience sized decks produced by Waddingtons.
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