VOTE - Box or Cards?

Russell · Unread post by **Russell** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:54 am

Which is more important to YOU. I could see an argument for both: collectors like to have a great looking box on their shelves while people who perform magic and cardistry prefer a good looking card.

Vote and shout out your opinion in the comments below.

Unread post by **CBJ** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:04 am

Since I rarely open my decks, I have to go with the tuckbox.

Sinsandman · Unread post by **Sinsandman** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:07 am

Cards

Unread post by **MagikFingerz** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:37 am

We are collecting playing CARDS, not cardboard boxes.

cosmicsecret · Unread post by **cosmicsecret** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:46 am

I collect cards but mainly use them to perform with so the design of both count.
I voted for the cards because i use them for magic and cardistry.

The only deck from the past 2 years which actually was top in both categories was :
*drummroll please* The Seasons Set.Period!

Ryric · Unread post by **Ryric** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:48 am

Cards.

The new boxes are really something, but I tend to pull the trigger on a new deck when the face of the cards has some unique design elements that differentiate it. I also like usability to varying degrees. I like to be able to pull out a deck and play a hand with some friends.

Seasons I think is a good example of a deck that looks beautiful in all three phases (box, back and face). Tendril is designed beautifully, not the most usable for some because of the coloring, Americana the font style for the numbers is a bit difficult (at least for my in-laws

) but otherwise it is a very usable deck.

I think Aurum has the potential to be another good example of hitting all three phases.

phantom1412 · Unread post by **phantom1412** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:02 am

Both : LoL

Cards and boxes must go together.
However if I have to choose I'll choose cards.
We all see the white centurions. Nice deck in white box.
No one is gonna a white plain deck for over 100$ no matter how beautiful the box is.

Unread post by **Encarded** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:20 am

FORCED to pick, I choose cards because I open my decks and play with them. However there is truly no reason on God's green earth why you can't have both. It just takes a little more desire and effort by the designer! You can make a beautiful box with all the fancy features, also put cool custom cards in them, and make the whole thing usable and fun.

That was my goal with Aurum, going to luxurious extremes in boxes and cards but also maintaining complete usability. Hopefully folks agree and enjoy both looking at them and playing with them.

Russell · Unread post by **Russell** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:38 am

Like most everyone else here I want both to look great, but I voted for cards. I do have a real follow up question...

Do you REALLY want better card design over tuck box design?

I ask because many of the people saying they are 'cards' fans have been buying decks with STANDARD facers for over $100 a deck. Some examples recently are: Gold Crown and LTD*, both of which have 'standard' faces and a fantastic box. Ignoring the cost, everyone here wanted them. There are a few other decks that have been much sought after even though they have completely standard faces but have a great tuckbox.

Really think about why you like a deck and what drew you to it. Was it the hype? The 'limited' factor? The amazing tuck box? or did you really like the card design?

Again, I am a card guy, I like the designs of the faces and back art. I have opened every deck I have purchased.

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* Don't get me wrong, I love both of those decks too!

DelMagic · Unread post by **DelMagic** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:45 pm

Regarding paying for standard faces - As a magician, I prefer standard faces so that cards from various decks can be mixed and matched in routines. I care mainly about the back, though I can appreciate interesting faces. The Seasons decks are awesome and my all-time favorite. However, I would appreciate them even if they had standard faces since it was the back that originally had me drooling. If they had standard faces I would have bought just the same amount.

Black, off-white, aged, or otherwise colored faces certainly look nice, but they really hinder many magic tricks. At times they can be helpful, but overall I'd say non-white faces make the decks less useful for magic. Super Backs Rule!

As for boxes, I'd love to see a non-dingable/dentable box that still looked like a typical tuck box. That would allow it to be useful for many magic effects and offer super protection.

neongrey · Unread post by **neongrey** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:12 pm

Even as a new collector with no real manipulation skills yet, my primary interest is in cards with unusual designs. A well-designed box is a wonderful thing, and can certainly be enticing, but what attracted me in the first place to collecting was the look of full custom decks. I just don't personally find anything especially interesting about standard faces.

Evan · Unread post by **Evan** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:29 pm

I voted for the cards. While I like having a nice box, having nice looking cards is more important to me.

Collector · Unread post by **Collector** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:40 pm

No comments, just one obvious vote.

Unread post by **dazzleguts** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:51 pm

The cards. There is no box that could have got me started collecting cards, but there are many decks.

Unread post by **max** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:06 pm

I have a curious feeling. I like the decks for the cards but I don't open my decks... So I enjoy a lot the boxes.

wouldn't know what to choose, Russell

I think about it every day...

Unread post by **PlayingCardz** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:13 pm

Come on! We don't open some decks to keep them in perfect condition, not because we like the box...

Unread post by **badpete69** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:40 pm

PlayingCardz wrote:Come on! We don't open some decks to keep them in perfect condition, not because we like the box...

What he said

Dr.Kardster · Unread post by **Dr.Kardster** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:38 pm

Cards. I practice cardistry and card magic so I need something that will serve my needs =D

If there was an option for both I will choose this instead!

elcyciB · Unread post by **elcyciB** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:41 pm

Encarded wrote:FORCED to pick, I choose cards because I open my decks and play with them. However there is truly no reason on God's green earth why you can't have both. It just takes a little more desire and effort by the designer! You can make a beautiful box with all the fancy features, also put cool custom cards in them, and make the whole thing usable and fun.

That was my goal with Aurum, going to luxurious extremes in boxes and cards but also maintaining complete usability. Hopefully folks agree and enjoy both looking at them and playing with them.

Pretty much summed up what I was thinking in the opening line. "I choose cards because I open my decks and play with them"

malanthrax · Unread post by **malanthrax** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:42 am

The boxes grab me at times. But the cards keep me.
I know we have spent more time on the tuckbox than I ever thought imaginable in my wildest dreams. They certainly do require a different thought and design process in every way from the cards. I think thats why we see so many come out where one or the other is lackluster.

anep · Unread post by **anep** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:44 am

as a collector, box is more important. if people like cards more, they will open the rare decks and i think a lot of collectors did not open them.

take the black ghost for example. i think people will pay more to buy black ghost 2nd edition cards in black ghost 1st edition box rather than the opposite. so this shows that the box is more important/valuable than the cards

Unread post by **dazzleguts** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:32 am

Actually I wouldn't buy either mixed set of box and cards unless it was cheap. I have a UV500 black tiger that I picked up at a second hand store. The box is worn but whole, and the cards are all there and mint, so I am happy to have it.

lumpyliew · Unread post by **lumpyliew** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:58 am

I would be in the middle I guess... I usually have two of the same deck . One to open and another to keep sealed and display .. So both designs on cards and box must be "appealing"

DukeBoy · Unread post by **DukeBoy** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:07 pm

Howdy all,
I am more of a card guy myself. But I have to admit I have a very collective personality. If I start to collect anything then it goes overboard as fast as my wallet will open. I have started to make sure I pick up atleast 2 decks of each design (3 if multiple back colors). 1 to play with/look at the other to sit in the collection and pay for retirement

. With the Asylum Deck on KS I only got the 1 for the collection because I hated the card design but I was in love with the maiden on the box. To me the two styles of art did not match up. I do not think that the reverse could happen. If they put a fantastic deck in a plane white box with "playing cards" on it I would still buy the 2 decks.

10-4 over and out.

MJF · Unread post by **MJF** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:09 pm

I need a third option... BOTH

Too many times most of the effort is spent on the Tuck Box and the cards aren't even customized... It's a total let down, even if I'm never going to open a deck.

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