Requiem Playing Cards - fulfillment done, bricks only now

[Firthetic]

From Tuckcase.com (http://tuckcase.com/2013/11/13/news-int ... cerfounder):

This week Swedish-based designer Lorenzo Gaggiotti unveiled his playing card project called Requiem Playing Cards by launching a Facebook page for the project. Developed over the Summer of 2013, the deck is a 100% custom designed and features broken Hearts, Clubs with thorns, cracked Diamonds and the Spades are actually dry leaves. The deck is neither a white or black deck but actually a red deck, which certainly changes up the playing field as this is not commonly a deck color choice.

[th4mo]

Me likey....
Me likey a LOT!

Coming soon to a kickstarter near you???

[badpete69]

Me likey....
Me likey a LOT!

Coming soon to a kickstarter near you???

Kickstarter doesn't look like an option per the article

With the reveal of the deck, Gaggiotti also mentioned he is seeking a founding partner for the deck to fund, produce and distribute the deck. In a comment on his page, he mentioned that Kickstarter was an unlikely option as he does not have a US/UK bank account to run the project. If you are interested in founding the project and support the distribution please inquire with Gaggiotti

[th4mo]

Me likey....
Me likey a LOT!

Coming soon to a kickstarter near you???

Kickstarter doesn't look like an option per the article

With the reveal of the deck, Gaggiotti also mentioned he is seeking a founding partner for the deck to fund, produce and distribute the deck. In a comment on his page, he mentioned that Kickstarter was an unlikely option as he does not have a US/UK bank account to run the project. If you are interested in founding the project and support the distribution please inquire with Gaggiotti

Merci Pierre, that was helpful.

Thank goodness someone around here knows how to actually read those articles...

[Eoghann]

Hot diggity those are nice.

[rousselle]

I wonder if this is a deck our sponsor would be willing to co-produce…

If so, I'd be willing to be a customer!

If not… I wonder if now is the time to go into the playing card biz…..

[Mike Ratledge]

Me likey....
Me likey a LOT!

Coming soon to a kickstarter near you???

Taler som en indfødt dansker, jeg kan virkelig godt lide kunstværker af dine kort! Godt arbejde - as I said on his FB page. Basically "I really like the artwork of your cards!".

Yeah, Mikey likey!

[Eoghann]

Show off.

[sinjin7]

A bit too gory for me. Plus, I don't like that the colors of the back and front don't match.

[Tricky]

The deck looks awesome but the tuck box is boring (and he admits that) . Wonder if he can do something with red colour.

[montecarlojoe]

I like them - the full bleed colour choice is bold and striking - so much so I would have liked the back and tuck colours to follow through..

[MagikFingerz]

The extra stuff like the things below the indices and the roman numerals, makes the faces look too busy. And the art is too gory; the QoH is licking/drinking blood from an actual heart, yuck! And what's that rat doing on the AoH? Totally unnecessary. I don't find the theme consistent at all, either.

This deck just tries to be visually different from most other decks with the red faces and weird pips, while the art is just like another BBM gore deck. And the back is really boring - no color, just a framed ram's head with a banner separating the two-way. I have yet to see a good deck design with the name of the deck printed on the back.

Will most definitely pass on these. If I want to handle a red faced deck I'll just pick up my Magic Makers "The Red Deck".

[th4mo]

The extra stuff like the things below the indices and the roman numerals, makes the faces look too busy. And the art is too gory; the QoH is licking/drinking blood from an actual heart, yuck! And what's that rat doing on the AoH? Totally unnecessary. I don't find the theme consistent at all, either.

This deck just tries to be visually different from most other decks with the red faces and weird pips, while the art is just like another BBM gore deck. And the back is really boring - no color, just a framed ram's head with a banner separating the two-way. I have yet to see a good deck design with the name of the deck printed on the back.

Will most definitely pass on these. If I want to handle a red faced deck I'll just pick up my Magic Makers "The Red Deck".

Don't hate on the designer just because he's svedish... sheesh, you're starting to sound like walrus!!!

[cosmicsecret]

I digg the Artwork - sure its full of gore - i think it works really well with the red background of the cards.
The backdesigns fits the theme even though its not a red back design.
From a practical point of view, which means playing games,doing cardistry or performing magic with this deck.....well i do believe that it can be
usefull for magicians with this "darker" style or as a special deck used in halloween gigs.
I see this more like a art piece and i think it will fit nicely in my collection next to the Karnival decks.

[chess]

I'd buy it.

[walrus]

Despite the whole Svedish thing I like this deck. I'm always a sucker for red used properly on a DECK on these seem to hit it. Even the tuck looks good to me. They did some unique work on this. I'm looking forward to following the progress.

[Mike Ratledge]

Well, I am carrying on a conversation with him in Danish (Nordic languages are basically all the same with a little twist here and there), and my conclusion is that he needs someone to take the reigns and manage the project for him. He's young, doesn't have a British or American bank account and wants to just design.

I would love to make it my first KS project, but I just don't have the experience or time to pull it off, and I am not an artist either. Anybody with the time & patience to let me interpret for you and get this show on the road?

From what he tells me, he has 90%+ of the artwork ready to print and I'm adding 5% changes someone would want before they take it live. If I have learned one thing here, it's that you can't please everyone, the Cardists, magicians and straight collectors all see things from different perspectives.

Doing the project from the states is 90% of making it work, in my experience. As many have noted, good designs have gone down the tube because people don't want to turn loose their plastique and pay in Sverige Kroner (Swedish crowns), much less add 30-50% for International shipping.

Any taker(s)?

[MagikFingerz]

Well, I am carrying on a conversation with him in Danish (Nordic languages are basically all the same with a little twist here and there), and my conclusion is that he needs someone to take the reigns and manage the project for him. He's young, doesn't have a British or American bank account and wants to just design.

I would love to make it my first KS project, but I just don't have the experience or time to pull it off, and I am not an artist either. Anybody with the time & patience to let me interpret for you and get this show on the road?

From what he tells me, he has 90%+ of the artwork ready to print and I'm adding 5% changes someone would want before they take it live. If I have learned one thing here, it's that you can't please everyone, the Cardists, magicians and straight collectors all see things from different perspectives.

Doing the project from the states is 90% of making it work, in my experience. As many have noted, good designs have gone down the tube because people don't want to turn loose their plastique and pay in Sverige Kroner (Swedish crowns), much less add 30-50% for International shipping.

Any taker(s)?

Correction: Scandinavian languages. Nordic includes Icelandic (much closer to old Norse, which is actually pretty far from today's Norwegian/Swedish/Danish) and Finnish (which I like to call "The Dutch of the North", since nobody has any idea what they're saying). Should be noted that most Finnish people also learn Swedish in school though.

If anything, I can at least help with the translation if needed.

[Mike Ratledge]

True, even I generalize too much. Lorenzo is actually Italian, and I am going to step back and see if anyone wants to engage him.

Here's another article about him looking for a "founder / producer"
http://tuckcase.com/2013/11/13/news-int ... erfounder/

Direct email is lorenzo@designkiller.it

After talking a bit, stumbling around trying to remember the differences between dansk and Sverige he speaks English pretty well.

Just tell him "Mike Ratman" sent you (that's me on Facebook).

[Mike Ratledge]

Just tell him "Mike Ratman" sent you (that's me on Facebook).

...and remember to send me a deck or two.

[Mike Ratledge]

Correction: Scandinavian languages. Nordic includes Icelandic (much closer to old Norse, which is actually pretty far from today's Norwegian/Swedish/Danish) and Finnish (which I like to call "The Dutch of the North", since nobody has any idea what they're saying). Should be noted that most Finnish people also learn Swedish in school though.

So true, I can even remember my grandfather and the scottish people being able to talk without translating, oddly enough. (and yes, people from danmark don't capitalize a lot of words you would in engelsk) I don't know many modern-day Danes that don't speak English, it's required in school these days, even though we only have 10 'grades' instead of 12. I've lived state-side since I was a child, so I'm pretty good at switching gears. My father was in the Navy in WW2.

[Stockholm17]

hi all!

I just saw the post and I registered

well I´m the designer, nice to meet you all.

First of all I´m not Swedish, I´m Italian living in Stockholm. I can speak Swedish.
About the design everybody has an opinion. It can be gory or not, it´s dark and sometimes extreme (see Ace of hearts and queen of hearts), there is blood and pain everywhere. That´s a requiem in fact. It´s a special deck, it´s not really the best for playing, I know that. It´s supposed and it has been designed on purpose to be like that, consistent with darkness and pain. A theme in fact.

If you "react" then it´s a good sign. I triggered an emotion (good or bad, or both) and that´s the purpose.
I work with graphic design and illustration since i was 15 and now I´m 37, so please don't talk about consistency, I know how to balance colors and graphics elements. ehhe If you don't like it, you are free to avoid it and buy something else. You don't like the roman numbers or the Aries, it´s not my problem since it keeps its symmetry and balance.
There is a lot behind this deck, I wrote a text in the "about" section on http://www.facebook.com/requiemcards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I will probably write more when I get this thing printed...

Kickstarter can be an option, only if I find a distributor in the USA.
The tuckbox image posted by tricky is the first attempt, check the pictures and the album on the page.
cheers, thanx to all
Lorenzo

[MagikFingerz]

@Lorenzo: You may be an experienced graphic artist, but playing cards is a special medium (for us anyway) of which a lot of us here are knowledgeable about what works and what doesn't. Confidence in your work is good, but overconfidence isn't. Humility and being open to criticism is also good, which your post doesn't show. But I'm only judging from one post, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Though I can't say that "if you don't like it, that's not my problem" is a good attitude to have.

With that said, welcome to the forums, and good job on the deck. I can recognize good work even if it doesn't fit my personal taste, and I should probably mention that more often when I state what I don't like Too many poor designs have made me cold and cynical...

[Mike Ratledge]

Greetings, Lorenzo! Glad to see you found us. Several people are really liking the Requiem deck design, and I hope that someone will step up to the plate and get them printed or manage a Kickstarter campaign / project for you. As I noted, I'm not the one to do so, but there are several people here that could easily jump in and get it done. As you noted, and several people have stated, running the project out of the US is pretty much key to getting it to fund successfully on Kickstarter, and using KS means there is little or no risk on your part of the person that decides to help you get it done, and after it's funded you will likely have a great place to do further projects in the future.

Just a side note, in the words of an old song - "du kan aldrig göra alla nöjda, så du har att behaga dig själv" (close enough, might be more danish than swedish). We have magicians, cardists, collectors and all combinations thereof here. Everybody has an opinion, it's human nature. i, for one, agree that it's a truly unique design, and really hope that somebody will jump in and get you started!


>Mike<


(aka "Mike Ratman" on Facebook)

[Stockholm17]

yes MagikFingerz
you are right, somehow, but in my life I´ve heard so many personal opinions totally out of the context, about artworks, layouts and everything related to visuals.
I´m not saying you cant say what you think, you are welcome to write what you think and want.
I´m just saying that it is just impossible to draw something that everybody likes.. like a painting... or - in this case - a card deck.
Just trust the artist, I´m not putting my painting on your wall. Like it or not, it´s not my problem. If the majority of the people dont like it, then it´s my problem.

For example, to me, the love deck from T11 is horrible. 10 minutes work sold as a breaking through piece of art. But I have my trained eye that spots the quick job from a bigger effort.
Sentinels instead is a beautiful deck in every single detail, and there you see how much time and skills have been put into that deck.
Thank you anyway for your comments, MagikFingerz.

and thanx Mike for the link and the greets
I´ll be less passionate next time eheh, sorry I´m Italian

cheers
Lorenzo

[Stockholm17]

this is the actual tuckbox, thinking of having it in 2 colors

[Tricky]

It's a bit confusing for me that we can communicate with designers since card collecting in my country usually spins around cards from the first half of 20th century or earlier
But if you want opinions,this deck will be a must have in my collection. Some say that it's gory and busy and stuff, but I know there is a lot of people here who don't even unseal their decks (myself included). And from my point it looks good, I got bored from recoloured decks with simple design, we need something new IMO

[Mike Ratledge]

and thanx Mike for the link and the greets
I´ll be less passionate next time eheh, sorry I´m Italian

cheers
Lorenzo

I warned them! (and welcome to the board!)

[Stockholm17]

hi again,

I had an idea about Requiem KS version, I share it with you all. Comments of any kind are welcome

here is the thing:
Designing a 3rd Joker as 56th face instead of promo/useless card.
If I start a kickstarter I want to put as 3rd joker the portrait of a "golden backer", someone who pledges a lot (1 available only) and be a joker in the deck. I will use his face and draw it.
This card is (now) called celebration.

Let me know

[volantangel]

I really like this deck, i think a piece of advice is to delay the launch of the project until at least the festive season is over, alot of money is going to be/already has been tied up (i know mine is), and you are never going to get the deck out in time for christmas. Take it slow, launch it maybe mid jan to mid feb, let peoples wallets recover.