Riley Sheehey's Playing Card Paintings

[manu]

I just noticed that the printed version has a white border on the faces, unlike the originals. I assume this is for playability but I would have preferred a full bleed. I still pre-ordered a deck though.

[Honeybee]

£29 for shipping 2 decks, with the only option being DHL Worldwide Express. I'll have to pass, not making sense to me.

LOL strag - my shipping quote to Australia is nearly TRIPLE that, you are getting a bargain

[Honeybee]

I just noticed that the printed version has a white border on the faces, unlike the originals. I assume this is for playability but I would have preferred a full bleed. I still pre-ordered a deck though.

You have hit the nail on the head - that is why the preorder pics do not look nearly as good as the earlier ones. Mystery solved thanks manu

[hsbc]

$38/deck would usually be too much but these are worth it IMO

(I'm trying to be around more, been busy lately, sorry all!)

[Honeybee]

I know people get busy/go on holiday etc and you are known to have gaps between posts but you had me worried hsbc
I think it was because your profile only has a - for when you were last active? I have not seen that before

[manu]

Looks like a second deck is in the works

oops I did it again

[acetofive]

Awesome

[EndersGame]

Riley's work is amazing, and being able to watch her create art from a playing card is really stunning.

Here's an example:

https://i.imgur.com/FWPDEAc.mp4

The printed deck is still available for $38 here:

https://shop.rileysheehey.com/collectio ... k-of-cards

[JazzBaloo]

It looks to me that she is painting over an existing deck or card. If that is confirmed then does anyone know which decks she uses?

[EndersGame]

It looks to me that she is painting over an existing deck or card. If that is confirmed then does anyone know which decks she uses?

Painting over an existing card is exactly what she does.

It looks to me like she's just using a regular Bicycle deck.

[JazzBaloo]

It looks to me that she is painting over an existing deck or card. If that is confirmed then does anyone know which decks she uses?

Painting over an existing card is exactly what she does.

It looks to me like she's just using a regular Bicycle deck.

I have only seen the faces, does she paint each back as well?

[Honeybee]

I don't think the original one offs would have been painted on the back esp as I think they may have sold framed (for your $600)

[JazzBaloo]

I don't think the original one offs would have been painted on the back esp as I think they may have sold framed (for your $600)

I am curious to the time and materials needed for each creation to cost 600$. Also, they look really really good imo.

[Honeybee]

I don't think the original one offs would have been painted on the back esp as I think they may have sold framed (for your $600)

I am curious to the time and materials needed for each creation to cost 600$. Also, they look really really good imo.

Art is not generally calculated like a tradesman $xx/hr. A quick Van Gogh sketch costs ?
If one values their work or the public values their work or more to the point the artist values THEIR work, the price can be whatever they put on it OR people are prepared to pay

I find it very interesting as my wife does amazing work in the crafts area - crafts (wool, paper, etc) are not expected to be expensive and therefore are priced as such and yet I can see her take a whole day to make a birthday card or a whole week to make a woolen toy. Quite often I know that people don't really appreciate that they are getting a one-off original that she designed or wrote a pattern for.

[Honeybee]

My biggest problem with this deck is Shipping
It costs me $102au to ship ONE deck to Oz
It costs me $220au to ship ONE HUNDRED decks to Oz

[JazzBaloo]

I don't think the original one offs would have been painted on the back esp as I think they may have sold framed (for your $600)

I am curious to the time and materials needed for each creation to cost 600$. Also, they look really really good imo.

Art is not generally calculated like a tradesman $xx/hr. A quick Van Gogh sketch costs ?
If one values their work or the public values their work or more to the point the artist values THEIR work, the price can be whatever they put on it OR people are prepared to pay

I find it very interesting as my wife does amazing work in the crafts area - crafts (wool, paper, etc) are not expected to be expensive and therefore are priced as such and yet I can see her take a whole day to make a birthday card or a whole week to make a woolen toy. Quite often I know that people don't really appreciate that they are getting a one-off original that she designed or wrote a pattern for.

Talent needs to be accounted for but also she isn't Van Gogh so I won't draw any comparisons there. Art price is always subjective but time needs to be accounted for too as well as materials. If a scribble done in minutes is worth a million dollars to someone then ok cool. I want to know more details about the process. Does it take her a couple hrs, days, longer ?? Is she using highly specialized paints? It seems like very fine and steady hand work that is really quite fascinating to see the time-lapse into final product.

[Honeybee]

Of course you can do your own research but I think she was doing one card a day
You talk about Lotrek being passive aggressive but it would seem that here you are being passive critical - asking pointed questions followed by a compliment

[JazzBaloo]

Of course you can do your own research but I think she was doing one card a day
You talk about Lotrek being passive aggressive but it would seem that here you are being passive critical - asking pointed questions followed by a compliment

It's important for some people to hear positive things so that they don't jump the gun with feeling attacked. I deleted that lotrek comment as to avoid any sort of nonsense back and forth with someone's disagreement. I still believe those words. I also believe the work is nice. I would also like to know everything that goes into her creations if I was to even entertain the idea of a 600$ card.

[EndersGame]

I just noticed that the printed version has a white border on the faces, unlike the originals. I assume this is for playability but I would have preferred a full bleed.

It looks like the card backs are a full bleed. But indeed the faces have white borders, as you can clearly see here:



Playability might be one reason for this, but I don't think that's the main reason. The indices aren't even in the white borders. And in fact the indices are even slightly smaller than the originals, so in reality that detracts slightly from playability.

I suppose the white borders might reduce the risk of cards being identified from their edges, which is a playability issue. And signs of wear won't be as much of an issue with white borders versus full-bleed artwork. But the artwork on the back of the cards is full-bleed, and will show signs of wear more quickly, so if that was the reason you'd think white borders would have been used on the card backs too. The reality is that the cards probably would look even nicer with full bleed artwork.

I think the reason for the white borders lies elsewhere, and has to do with USPCC's inability to do perfect registration/alignment when printing, especially given the size and dimension of the original artworks.

I've created an image comparing one of the original cards alongside a printed card - see the 8 of Hearts below. You can see that basically the entire card has been shrunk from its original size, and a white border added. USPCC's notorious problem with misaligned borders also rears its head and unfortunately makes the size of the borders slightly uneven.



I'm sure it's because the originals artworks are exactly card shaped and sized, meaning there is no margin for error, combined with USPCC's inability to do perfect registration, are the reasons that white borders are added. For the card faces to be full bleed and without white borders, the original artwork sent to the manufacturer would have to bleed over the edges, to allow room for some error with the alignment. Obviously the original artworks don't have that full bleed, but are exactly the size of a card.

Even with perfect scans of the original, USPCC can't print that exactly as is, and there's bound to be a sliver of white showing on at least one of the four sides. I suppose they could have zoomed in the original artwork somewhat, to have a full bleed that would eliminate any chance of white borders. But that would put the indices even closer to the edges, and any misaligned borders would still become very obvious and potentially put one of the indices right up against the card edge.

So shrinking the original art, and adding white borders was probably the only solution to this problem. This wouldn't apply to the card back, because the artist probably created that on some other medium, and made it deliberately larger than the size of a playing card, to allow for a full bleed that went past the edges, regardless of errors in printing.

[Honeybee]

Yes as I said early in the thread, the full faces look so much better. I wondered whether the border could have also had to do with using the files used for making the prints of the originals for unlike the originals an ordered print has a small white border
How do you explain $64us to post a $38 deck to Oz ?

[Honeybee]

Of course you can do your own research but I think she was doing one card a day
You talk about Lotrek being passive aggressive but it would seem that here you are being passive critical - asking pointed questions followed by a compliment

It's important for some people to hear positive things so that they don't jump the gun with feeling attacked. I deleted that lotrek comment as to avoid any sort of nonsense back and forth with someone's disagreement. I still believe those words. I also believe the work is nice. I would also like to know everything that goes into her creations if I was to even entertain the idea of a 600$ card.

With nearly 1,000 things sold out I am thinking Riley probably doesn't need to worry about your money Jazz

[manu]

That’s a good point, Ender. I think you’re right, bleed is almost certainly the reason for the white borders. The edges of the card could have been digitally extended to accommodate for the bleed, but that would have taken some work.

[JazzBaloo]

Of course you can do your own research but I think she was doing one card a day
You talk about Lotrek being passive aggressive but it would seem that here you are being passive critical - asking pointed questions followed by a compliment

It's important for some people to hear positive things so that they don't jump the gun with feeling attacked. I deleted that lotrek comment as to avoid any sort of nonsense back and forth with someone's disagreement. I still believe those words. I also believe the work is nice. I would also like to know everything that goes into her creations if I was to even entertain the idea of a 600$ card.

With nearly 1,000 things sold out I am thinking Riley probably doesn't need to worry about your money Jazz

I'm sorry to question you or her. You guys rock. Have a good day mate.

[MagikFingerz]

Late to the party here. Yeah, that shipping cost is gonna prevent me from buying a deck. I'm guessing someone advised her to only ship internationally with the expensive options because they're safer? Sucks for us, though.

[Honeybee]

I'm sorry to question you or her. You guys rock. Have a good day mate.

yeah you love us
Now that could be a good hobby

[JazzBaloo]

I'm sorry to question you or her. You guys rock. Have a good day mate.

yeah you love us
Now that could be a good hobby

Could be worse...

[EndersGame]

I love the way she presents her work.

Here are some examples of her transformation-style playing cards, all of which are in the printed deck:

[Honeybee]

A borderless deck would be irresistible

(although the crazy shipping prices for o/s would probably kill it again)