Rick Davidson - Wishers

[Evilgamer]

to each their own but there is absolutely nothing about this deck that draws me in. It's just a standard deck.

Blind loyalty just because the name behind is known only goes so far.

[Honeybee]

"Blind Loyalty"? - How about we all have different tastes

I love classic backs including Rider Back variations, for some of us this is how cards are meant to look
Some of us love bling, some of us like ghosts or samurai or a whole mixed bag

I also love classic courts and thus my love of these and Ian Cumpstey's Shimmering Seven earlier this year

[Honeybee]

Apologies Smocito for not finding this thread when I started the new one

[Fenrir]

I like Rick’s work. I’m not big on standard courts but if I’m getting a deck with them, it’s going to be Rick’s. He does a fantastic job elevating them.

[Eric Lee]

Rick's courts is not just another revision of the standard courts, but updating the original Rouen courts design with the current USPCC courts. So you could say it's Rick's interpretation of what the courts should have looked like today if the Rouen designs didn't get corrupted by bad copies.

You might know from my previous campaigns I researched original playing cards from the 15th century to understand how we got our current abstract patterns. The Wishers decks include and correct just a few design details and patterns from these beautiful ancient masters, to return a little of the elegance lost over centuries of bad copies.

Yes, it's probably something only history buffs would get excited over . Do check out his Origins Grail and Origins Shadow of history decks if you like these things. Still readily available on playingcards.net and ebay at a decent price.

[kevork]

Buyers beware: Do not believe the stock listed on playingcards.net. That's Gambler's Warehouse website and more often than not, they show items available when they're not.

[Evilgamer]

"Blind Loyalty"? - How about we all have different tastes

I love classic backs including Rider Back variations, for some of us this is how cards are meant to look
Some of us love bling, some of us like ghosts or samurai or a whole mixed bag

I also love classic courts and thus my love of these and Ian Cumpstey's Shimmering Seven earlier this year

we have different tastes, yes, And I said exactly that, "to each their own"

the post was in response to what basically amounts to "why is this guys campaign not funding faster?"

[JazzBaloo]

Rick's courts is not just another revision of the standard courts, but updating the original Rouen courts design with the current USPCC courts. So you could say it's Rick's interpretation of what the courts should have looked like today if the Rouen designs didn't get corrupted by bad copies.

You might know from my previous campaigns I researched original playing cards from the 15th century to understand how we got our current abstract patterns. The Wishers decks include and correct just a few design details and patterns from these beautiful ancient masters, to return a little of the elegance lost over centuries of bad copies.

wishers.jpg

Yes, it's probably something only history buffs would get excited over . Do check out his Origins Grail and Origins Shadow of history decks if you like these things. Still readily available on playingcards.net and ebay at a decent price.

I don't see much difference between the 'centuries of bad copies' and his revised version.

[Fenrir]

Rick's courts is not just another revision of the standard courts, but updating the original Rouen courts design with the current USPCC courts. So you could say it's Rick's interpretation of what the courts should have looked like today if the Rouen designs didn't get corrupted by bad copies.

You might know from my previous campaigns I researched original playing cards from the 15th century to understand how we got our current abstract patterns. The Wishers decks include and correct just a few design details and patterns from these beautiful ancient masters, to return a little of the elegance lost over centuries of bad copies.

wishers.jpg

Yes, it's probably something only history buffs would get excited over . Do check out his Origins Grail and Origins Shadow of history decks if you like these things. Still readily available on playingcards.net and ebay at a decent price.

I don't see much difference between the 'centuries of bad copies' and his revised version.

Do make an appointment at an eye doctor as soon as possible.

[JazzBaloo]

Rick's courts is not just another revision of the standard courts, but updating the original Rouen courts design with the current USPCC courts. So you could say it's Rick's interpretation of what the courts should have looked like today if the Rouen designs didn't get corrupted by bad copies.

You might know from my previous campaigns I researched original playing cards from the 15th century to understand how we got our current abstract patterns. The Wishers decks include and correct just a few design details and patterns from these beautiful ancient masters, to return a little of the elegance lost over centuries of bad copies.

wishers.jpg

Yes, it's probably something only history buffs would get excited over . Do check out his Origins Grail and Origins Shadow of history decks if you like these things. Still readily available on playingcards.net and ebay at a decent price.

I don't see much difference between the 'centuries of bad copies' and his revised version.

Do make an appointment at an eye doctor as soon as possible.

hahahaha sorry bra, I meant to say it's wonderful and exciting and a most fantastic rendition. To help you not feel insulted, I will explain some more i guess... I didn't say the courts were bad. I don't mind standard courts and I don't mind the courts from this deck. You insulted me by saying I was blind or have vision problems. That would be like me saying that if you don't think these courts look very similar to standard courts then you must be mentally handicapped. I quoted the bad copies bit to highlight that although one may see today's version of standard courts in that way, they don't look all that different from what the Wishers version is. You disagree, lovely

[Fenrir]

You are allowed to have your opinion. I was just worried that you couldn’t see the differences.

[JazzBaloo]

You are allowed to have your opinion. I was just worried that you couldn’t see the differences.

I appreciate your concern. How are your testosterone levels these days? I'm just worried for you. Pretty silly huh.

[Fenrir]

You are allowed to have your opinion. I was just worried that you couldn’t see the differences.

I appreciate your concern. How are your testosterone levels these days? I'm just worried for you. Pretty silly huh.

My commentary about your eyesight (you saying you can’t see the difference between original courts and what Rick does) is not the same as you asking about testosterone, which is essentially a sexist comment about “care” being for women only.

So, good luck to you, I guess you will become the first person I block on UC so I never have to see your posts again.

Thanks for being part of the community!

[JazzBaloo]

You are allowed to have your opinion. I was just worried that you couldn’t see the differences.

I appreciate your concern. How are your testosterone levels these days? I'm just worried for you. Pretty silly huh.

My commentary about your eyesight (you saying you can’t see the difference between original courts and what Rick does) is not the same as you asking about testosterone, which is essentially a sexist comment about “care” being for women only.

So, good luck to you, I guess you will become the first person I block on UC so I never have to see your posts again.

Thanks for being part of the community!

Whatever works for you. If you think it's ok to insult someone but can't take an example of an insult in return...pretty silly. I don't even mind you trying to bring out the big guns with whatever claim you're making with sexism attached. That must be a hot topic for you and a buzz word used to villify.

[Fenrir]

I have no problem dishing it out and taking it in kind but my slight jab is different from your complete departure. Take good care.

[JazzBaloo]

I have no problem dishing it out and taking it in kind but my slight jab is different from your complete departure. Take good care.

Complete departure? I give you an example of an insult by suggesting you are less of a man when referencing your testosterone levels but state how silly that ave of insulting each other is under the guise of care. I'm sexist, any more to add?

[GandalfPC]

I have something to add. Put a sock in it.

This should have never escalated, and the point it crossed the line was testosterone.

If you want to debate where the line is, PM me to discuss.

[Adamthinks]

I have something to add. Put a sock in it.

This should have never escalated, and the point it crossed the line was testosterone.

If you want to debate where the line is, PM me to discuss.

I think this is an example of both parties being butts.

[GandalfPC]

The argument can be made that it took two to tango - especially when people are not unaware of who they dance with.

Telling Jazz to see an eye doctor likely to elicit more attacking response than saying “I would disagree” or something else less directly pointed to produce less hubbub.

[JazzBaloo]

Tell the people you bully in your personal life to put a sock in it. It's always the retort that is too much or crossing the line huh. I made a point using an example, not a directed insult.

[GandalfPC]

I am telling everyone to put a sock in it - which is a pretty tame way of saying stop attacking each other and remember this is a playing card forum where people come for things other than conflict.

I do notice who gets in tussles here, and who gets in tussles with more people more often.

[JazzBaloo]

I am telling everyone to put a sock in it - which is a pretty tame way of saying stop attacking each other and remember this is a playing card forum where people come for things other than conflict.

I do notice who gets in tussles here, and who gets in tussles with more people more often.

So I'm looking for trouble if i say the cards look similar but it's ok for someone to then say I'm blind or need eyes checked? Weird perception of what happened. It's like some people don't like other people so they jump at a chance to snap back and then get mad when they don't get the desired outcome. You clearly spoke to me since you had something to add when I asked if Fen wanted to add more buzz words to try and cancel me. Everyone can see how you operate. Gl with attacking everyone you don't agree with.

[GandalfPC]

It is true they could have said it differently - and it is even true that they said it the way they did because you have laid the tone with them that you go negative all the time and it irked them (more or less)

But you took the opportunity to escalate.

You may not see it, but I see it because I get the complaints from users - and you and I have gone toe to toe more than once - you tend to take shots at decks that get people to make some comment back that results in where we are now.

And part of it is because people get the idea you are fishing for a fight in my opinion.

I will also note that I had asked to have this conversation via PM if you needed to have it, but it seems you prefer a public battle to prove some type of point.

[GandalfPC]

It’s as simple as this - if you feel someone stepped over the line and is personally attacking you, say so, or file a complaint.

Do not respond in kind.

Mods have lives too, we don’t relish the time we get to spend sorting out fights that never needed to happen about things that really don’t matter.

[mulrich]

Back to the cards… 
I like the redesigned courts. I'm not a history buff so I don't appreciate the closer similarities with the 15th century cards. Both the Wishers and the standard bicycle faces are still a bit evolved from the originals, which is a good thing. I like the Wisher courts more than standard courts but not sure I like them enough to buy. I suppose the price is reasonable but for what amounts to a "standard" deck still seems a little much. But $2-3 cheaper really isn't that much so I'm just nitpicking.

[Fenrir]

The argument can be made that it took two to tango - especially when people are not unaware of who they dance with.

Telling Jazz to see an eye doctor likely to elicit more attacking response than saying “I would disagree” or something else less directly pointed to produce less hubbub.

I can’t see the responses due to the foe ability but you are right that I caused this and I accept responsibility for it. I’ll do better.

My apologies to Jazz and the community.

[JazzBaloo]

It is true they could have said it differently - and it is even true that they said it the way they did because you have laid the tone with them that you go negative all the time and it irked them (more or less)

But you took the opportunity to escalate.

You may not see it, but I see it because I get the complaints from users - and you and I have gone toe to toe more than once - you tend to take shots at decks that get people to make some comment back that results in where we are now.

And part of it is because people get the idea you are fishing for a fight in my opinion.

I will also note that I had asked to have this conversation via PM if you needed to have it, but it seems you prefer a public battle to prove some type of point.

Why are you not dm me then? Works both ways. I took opportunity to escalate? It escalated when I said cards are like standard and someone told me I need my eyes checked. You should maybe check the comments again from unbiased view. I am not always negative but that is a bias you and others possess. I see time and time again that if someone has an opinion that isn't praising the cards, people get offended. Just my opinion. I can leave this here if you want but if you need to make more points then I don't mind. I never asked for your intervention.

[JazzBaloo]

The argument can be made that it took two to tango - especially when people are not unaware of who they dance with.

Telling Jazz to see an eye doctor likely to elicit more attacking response than saying “I would disagree” or something else less directly pointed to produce less hubbub.

I can’t see the responses due to the foe ability but you are right that I caused this and I accept responsibility for it. I’ll do better.

My apologies to Jazz and the community.

Thank you Fen. Let's both do better. Sorry

[Honeybee]

There is a clear example in another thread (saved) where a poster on this thread forgot he was not/no longer a banned poster who had a clear problem with anything I post. I even suspect he has two identities going in this thread. There is not doubt that he displays two persona.
Apologies to Rick Davidson that this has resulted in the thread advertising his latest KS campaign being derailed

On a positive note for those who like this deck - I think it may well get over the line

[kevork]

A set of standard courts that look appealing. Not for me personally but I wishers this campaign well!