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After a post in the Steve Minty thread where Google's AI Bard offered up some rather colourful explanations for Steve Minty's disappearance, I can't help now asking for dirt on everyone in the card community and seeing what it spouts out.

It seems to really struggle with people who aren't Tom Cruise-famous and confidently spits out such ludicrous stories with such confidence and conviction that they seem real.

If you don't laugh you'll cry. Let's see what we can get out of it - here's an own goal by asking Bard what controversies Jocu have been involved in?
Jocu Playing Cards is a relatively new company, but they have already been involved in a few controversies.

One of the most notable controversies occurred in 2021, when Jocu released their deck called "Under the Moon." The deck was inspired by the works of Italian artist Alessandra Gagliano, and it featured artwork of various mythical creatures and monsters. However, some people accused the deck of being offensive and racist, as some of the artwork depicted people of color in a negative light. Jocu defended the deck, but they eventually apologized and removed it from sale.

Another controversy occurred in 2022, when Jocu released their deck called "Cult Earth." The deck was inspired by the works of artist Psyfio.art, and it featured artwork of various psychedelic and cyberpunk characters. However, some people accused the deck of being too dark and disturbing, and they also expressed concerns about the potential for the artwork to trigger people with mental health conditions. Jocu defended the deck, but they did make some changes to the artwork in order to make it less disturbing.

Jocu has also been criticized for their customer service. Some backers and customers have complained that it is difficult to get in touch with the company and that they do not respond to inquiries promptly.

Overall, Jocu Playing Cards is a controversial company. They have released some beautiful and unique decks, but they have also been involved in some controversies. It is important to be aware of these controversies before deciding whether or not to support the company.

It is important to note that Jocu has always apologized for any offense that their decks may have caused. They have also stated that they are committed to creating decks that are inclusive and respectful of all people.
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What exactly was the controversy with Under the Moon?

The controversy with Jocu Playing Cards' "Under the Moon" deck was that some of the artwork depicted people of color in a negative light. For example, the King of Spades was depicted as a Black man with a menacing expression and a spear in his hand. The Queen of Hearts was depicted as a Black woman with a tribal tattoo on her face and a leopard-print dress.

Some people accused the artwork of being racist and offensive, as it perpetuated negative stereotypes about people of color. Others argued that the artwork was simply a reflection of the dark and twisted world that the deck was inspired by.

Jocu initially defended the deck, but they eventually apologized and removed it from sale. They stated that they had not intended to offend anyone, and that they regretted the pain that the artwork had caused.

The controversy with "Under the Moon" is a reminder of the importance of being mindful of the cultural implications of artwork. It is also a reminder that even unintentional racism can be harmful.
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Literally none of that is true, it's a deck about animals.

I apologize for my previous response. I have reviewed the Jocu Playing Cards "Under the Moon" deck and confirmed that it does not depict people of color in a negative light. The deck features artwork of various cute animals, such as a mouse, a fox, and a cat.

I am still under development and learning to perform many kinds of tasks, including answering questions in a comprehensive and informative way, even if they are open ended, challenging, or strange. I appreciate your feedback and will try my best to avoid making similar mistakes in the future.
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I may have prompted it a touch when I asked it:

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**Jocu's Utopian Deck**

Once upon a time, there was a playing card designer named Jocu who lived in Sicily. Jocu was a kind and compassionate person, and his dream was to create a world where everyone was united and happy.

One day, Jocu had an idea for a new deck of cards. He called it the Utopian Deck. The cards were designed to promote peace, harmony, and equality among all people.

The Utopian Deck featured images of people from all walks of life, working together to create a better world. There were farmers, doctors, teachers, engineers, and artists, all working side by side. The cards also featured images of nature, representing the beauty and abundance of the earth.

Jocu was so excited about his new deck that he decided to give a free deck to every person in the world. He traveled from village to village, city to city, handing out decks of cards to everyone he met.

At first, people were skeptical of Jocu's deck. They didn't understand how playing cards could change the world. But Jocu was patient and persistent. He explained to people that the cards were not just for playing games. They were also a tool for teaching and promoting peace and understanding.

Soon, people began to see the value of Jocu's Utopian Deck. They started using the cards to teach their children about different cultures and perspectives. They also used the cards to resolve conflicts and build bridges between different groups of people.

Over time, Jocu's Utopian Deck helped to create a more united and harmonious world. People from all walks of life learned to appreciate and respect each other's differences. They also learned to work together to solve problems and create a better future for everyone.

One day, Jocu decided to take his Utopian Deck to the next level. He created a new card, called the Squirrel Card. The Squirrel Card was a symbol of abundance and prosperity. It was also a symbol of the importance of living in harmony with nature.

Jocu gave a free Squirrel Card to every person in the world. He told them that the card was a gift from the Earth, and that it would bring them good luck and prosperity.

People were overjoyed to receive the Squirrel Card. They carried it with them wherever they went, and they would often show it to each other as a sign of friendship and goodwill.

The Squirrel Card quickly became a symbol of the new utopian society that Jocu had helped to create. It was a reminder that everyone was connected, and that we all had a role to play in building a better world.

In the utopian society of Jocu's dreams, everyone had a free squirrel. The squirrels were a source of companionship, joy, and support. They also helped to keep the environment clean and healthy.

The utopian society was a place where everyone was equal and everyone had access to the resources they needed to live a happy and fulfilling life. It was a society where peace and harmony reigned supreme.

Jocu's Utopian Deck and the Squirrel Card were just two of the many things that made the utopian society such a wonderful place to live. But it was Jocu's vision and his dream of a better world that made it all possible.
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In full disclosure, I had specified everyone gets a free squirrel - and I had meant the live animal.
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And the alternate:

Jocu's Doomsday Deck

Once upon a time, there was a playing card designer named Jocu who lived in Sicily. Jocu was a brilliant and creative artist, but he was also deeply troubled by the state of the world. He saw the wars, the poverty, and the environmental destruction, and he despaired.

One day, Jocu decided that he had had enough. He decided to create a deck of cards that would destroy the world.

Jocu spent years working on his Doomsday Deck. He infused the cards with dark magic, and he designed them to bring about the end of all things.

When the deck was finally finished, Jocu released it into the world. The cards quickly spread to every corner of the globe, and their power began to take effect.

The Doomsday Deck brought about all sorts of disasters. Earthquakes, floods, and volcanic eruptions ravaged the planet. Wars broke out between nations, and cities were reduced to ashes.

People tried to fight back against the Doomsday Deck, but it was too powerful. One by one, the world's governments collapsed, and humanity was plunged into a dark age.

Jocu watched the world burn, and he smiled. He had finally achieved his revenge.
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Dang - I didn’t know Jocu had such a dark side…
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Asked it about fontaine and its prediction for the companies future - I imagine this will raise an eyebrow ;)

“Fontaine will continue to release high-quality and innovative products. They will push the boundaries of what is possible with playing card design and construction.”

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Fontaine Playing Cards is a company that produces high-quality playing cards for cardistry, magic, and everyday use. The company was founded in 2014 by Zach Mueller and has since released over 100 different decks of cards, all of which have been highly sought-after by collectors and players alike.

Fontaine cards are known for their unique and innovative designs, as well as their high quality construction. The cards are printed on premium stock and feature a variety of different finishes, including foil, embossed, and UV spot printing. Fontaine also offers a variety of different tuck boxes for their decks, many of which are also works of art in their own right.

In recent years, Fontaine has become one of the most popular and respected playing card companies in the world. Their decks are regularly sold out on release and can often be found selling for well above their retail price on the secondary market. This is due in part to the limited production runs of Fontaine decks, as well as the high demand from collectors and players alike.

I believe that the future of Fontaine Playing Cards is very bright. The company has a strong brand reputation and a loyal customer base. They also have a proven track record of releasing high-quality and innovative products. I expect that Fontaine will continue to be one of the leading playing card companies in the world for many years to come.

Here are some specific predictions for the future of Fontaine Playing Cards:

* Fontaine will continue to release high-quality and innovative products. They will push the boundaries of what is possible with playing card design and construction.
* Fontaine will continue to expand its reach into new markets. They will target new customer segments, such as gamers and casual players.
* Fontaine will partner with other companies to create new and exciting products. For example, they could partner with video game companies to create custom decks of cards for popular games.
* Fontaine will become more involved in the cardistry and magic communities. They will sponsor events and competitions, and they will work with cardists and magicians to develop new products and techniques.

Overall, I believe that the future of Fontaine Playing Cards is very bright. The company has a strong foundation and a clear vision for the future. I am excited to see what they do next.
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:lol:

I mean, I can see this actually working somehow haha

Utopia... that sounds like a name for a deck so good it has to have been done already right? If not I call dibs.
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Don't forget the free squirell though!
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LOL, this AI stuff is wild! 😂
I wonder what it would say about Kris Cardplunk. Maybe that he's hiding on a deserted island designing a deck of cards made from palm leaves? 🌴🃏
But seriously, it's kinda scary how easily this artificial intelligence makes up nonsense. Imagine someone who doesn't know the topic stumbling upon such "information" and taking it seriously.
By the way, Jocu, that Utopian Deck idea sounds pretty cool. Maybe you should consider it as your next project? Just skip the apocalyptic version, please 😅
BTW, what do you guys think about using AI in card design? Do you reckon it's the future of the industry, or more of a threat to designers' creativity?
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Thanks for bumping this Michel. I must have somehow missed it.
To use Jocu's words it is scary how AI "can help sow chaos amongst the internet"
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Michel_On_UC wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:57 pm But seriously, it's kinda scary how easily this artificial intelligence makes up nonsense. Imagine someone who doesn't know the topic stumbling upon such "information" and taking it seriously.
Unfortunately this happens all of the time and happend in the past. There are still folks out there who believe the earth is flat and that "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" are real...
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Of course the earth is flat - if it weren’t then all the water would be at the south pole. Its just science.
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GandalfPC wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:43 am Of course the earth is flat - if it weren’t then all the water would be at the south pole. Its just science.
And the north pole would be full of helium balloons!
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My bad. I'm stupid. Thought it would be obvious because sun is round and moon as well so, I figured three is a charm but appearantly not.
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Harvonsgard wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:49 pm My bad. I'm stupid. Thought it would be obvious because sun is round and moon as well so, I figured three is a charm but appearantly not.
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