The Groundskeeper by Wyrmwood (Produced by the Gentleman Wake, ill. Dan Greta)

[PiazzaDelivery]

Should I be worried if my profile has read "Completed" for over 2 weeks and I've yet to receive tracking or the package itself?

[rousselle]

I'm sure this question has been asked and answered several times already, but I'm lazy as well as forgetful. Will these decks be available after fulfillment is actually completed?

[Disenchanted_11]

Limited quantities only on TGW's website

[JazzBaloo]

Limited quantities only on TGW's website

why wouldn't WW sell some on their website?

[Evilgamer]

Limited quantities only on TGW's website

why wouldn't WW sell some on their website?

Im 99% sure they will and equally not sure why they have been quoted as being unsure about that.

[Disenchanted_11]

Im 99% sure they will and equally not sure why they have been quoted as being unsure about that.

I believe they removed the ability to order them to the point that even backers who did not confirm thier orders will be left with non-expiry credits?

[Evilgamer]

Im 99% sure they will and equally not sure why they have been quoted as being unsure about that.

I believe they removed the ability to order them to the point that even backers who did not confirm thier orders will be left with non-expiry credits?

You had to complete the order on their regular web site, if you cant order it from there you cant order it from anywhere and just have a credit with them.

They dont use backer kit or a third party any more to complete campaigns.

[Disenchanted_11]

Im 99% sure they will and equally not sure why they have been quoted as being unsure about that.

I believe they removed the ability to order them to the point that even backers who did not confirm thier orders will be left with non-expiry credits?

You had to complete the order on their regular web site, if you cant order it from there you cant order it from anywhere and just have a credit with them.

They dont use backer kit or a third party any more to complete campaigns.

Yeah I'm a backer too. I'm just saying they removed the ability to order Groundskeeper on their website.

[Evilgamer]

Weird slight update, they really are leaning into the limited stock. They said they would fix my missing prismatic deck but absolutely want the cobalt (blue) base deck back to...I dunno....it's opened just to make sure I wasn't going crazy...offer I guess in worse case since at this point it's a perfectly undamaged deck minus cellophane (I dont even cut seals unless I have to and these peel cleanly)

And the punchline for everyone who was making comments about their shipping materials they asked for and will receive it back in the same padded envelope.

[Evilgamer]

So final update for this. They finally shipped the prismatic deck (after getting the blue one back and seeing it hadn’t shipped)

Overall this is a pretty great deck of cards I know between the wyrmwoodness of the whole thing and the shipping debacle it’s gotten a bit of a bad rep but the cards are solid.

I do wish the prismatic was more prismatic and Less just a silver version of the deck

Tucks. There is an out and inner. The prismatic seal isnt great.

Backs and foiling

Cards

[PiazzaDelivery]

Just got mine, I'm sure I read it elsewhere but the seals are the cheapest I've seen in a long time. Cheapens an otherwise luxurious design. Otherwise the deck is solid, although the feel of the cards is... weird? Tuck is awesome, mostly as advertised, 8/10 final score.

[Evilgamer]

Just got mine, I'm sure I read it elsewhere but the seals are the cheapest I've seen in a long time. Cheapens an otherwise luxurious design. Otherwise the deck is solid, although the feel of the cards is... weird? Tuck is awesome, mostly as advertised, 8/10 final score.

The normal seals are fine, though my definition of "fine" is "peels off easily and doesnt damage the tuck" you can see where it ended up on the red deck.

The one on the prismatic deck...for once I think WJPC might have sold them something that they couldn't really make well, it looked like they went for a prismatic sticker but it just ended up being a piece of plastic with some ink under it. Its basically ruined that tuck, I may just swap it for the one in the red box.

[TheGentlemanWake]

I will be releasing a limited stock of Red, Blue, Green Groundskeeper on TheGentlemanWake.com very soon. Probably by Wednesday for anyone who missed it or want a few more.

Also regarding Seals, Dan Gretta designed awesome seals and FOR SOME REASON wyrmwood just forgot. I was off the project by this point so I didn't catch it.

[NIAVLYSYUG]

I'm interested to buy a Green Groundskeeper! Because I missed the possibility to buy one when it was promoted...

[TheGentlemanWake]

https://www.thegentlemanwake.com/shop

Groundskeeper decks available on the website now. Thanks!

[antifaro]

I will be releasing a limited stock of Red, Blue, Green Groundskeeper on TheGentlemanWake.com very soon. Probably by Wednesday for anyone who missed it or want a few more.

Also regarding Seals, Dan Gretta designed awesome seals and FOR SOME REASON wyrmwood just forgot. I was off the project by this point so I didn't catch it.

I'm a little curious - if you're the producer of these, how can you be off of your own project to not notice this oversight? Were things not fully finalized with finished samples before going into full production? I have a hard time understanding how the creator and producer can be off of their own project and ship a final product blindly like that. For the price, it's a little concerning that not every step is crucially looked over and proofed before giving the green light. For $21 on the website it's also a little underwhelming to have monochromatic backs on the standard edition compared to the box, when in past reviews this was a main critique of yours for other brands.

[Adamthinks]

I will be releasing a limited stock of Red, Blue, Green Groundskeeper on TheGentlemanWake.com very soon. Probably by Wednesday for anyone who missed it or want a few more.

Also regarding Seals, Dan Gretta designed awesome seals and FOR SOME REASON wyrmwood just forgot. I was off the project by this point so I didn't catch it.

I'm a little curious - if you're the producer of these, how can you be off of your own project to not notice this oversight? Were things not fully finalized with finished samples before going into full production? I have a hard time understanding how the creator and producer can be off of their own project and ship a final product blindly like that. For the price, it's a little concerning that not every step is crucially looked over and proofed before giving the green light. For $21 on the website it's also a little underwhelming to have monochromatic backs on the standard edition compared to the box, when in past reviews this was a main critique of yours for other brands.

He didn't handle "production" for this deck, Wyrmwood did, which is pretty darn abundantly clear all over the kickstarter page and this thread. Not sure how you missed that. He directed the artist, set up contacts between the printers, etc. Wyrmwood is doing everything else (orders, samples, proofing, shipping, etc.)

[Disenchanted_11]

TGW left the project oversight (design) when they switched printers.

[TheGentlemanWake]

I will be releasing a limited stock of Red, Blue, Green Groundskeeper on TheGentlemanWake.com very soon. Probably by Wednesday for anyone who missed it or want a few more.

Also regarding Seals, Dan Gretta designed awesome seals and FOR SOME REASON wyrmwood just forgot. I was off the project by this point so I didn't catch it.

I'm a little curious - if you're the producer of these, how can you be off of your own project to not notice this oversight? Were things not fully finalized with finished samples before going into full production? I have a hard time understanding how the creator and producer can be off of their own project and ship a final product blindly like that. For the price, it's a little concerning that not every step is crucially looked over and proofed before giving the green light. For $21 on the website it's also a little underwhelming to have monochromatic backs on the standard edition compared to the box, when in past reviews this was a main critique of yours for other brands.

The simple answer is that I was paid to perform a task. That included finding an artist that fit the project, offering guidance, creative direction and feedback to said artist, connecting wyrmwood to my stable of suppliers and vendors (I was also responsible for connecting Wyrmwood with WJPC), and passing off the product to Wyrmwood's internal management once the KS campaign had ended. I did my job, and personally, not to toot my own horn too much, I think I did it well. I thought of the seal. Enough to have Dan Gretta design one. When I turned over the finished artwork to wyrmwood I made sure all elements were clearly labeled and easy to understand. Wyrmwood is a big company with VERY compartmentalized processes. SO where as I'm very used to handling all aspect of deck production myself on my projects this was NOT the case at wyrmwood where different individuals handle different things. ONe guy does sourcing, another does marketing, another does logistics, another does fulfillment, etc. I suspect what happened is that somewhere along the chain the 'inventory' of what Wyrmwood had was lost. WJPC likely asked wyrmwood what they wanted for a seal and whoever was on the receiving end of the question simply forgot or didn't know that a seal had been designed. Likely they passed on the request to the art dept (yet another cog) and the seals ended up the way they did. I suspect the thought of reaching out to Dan to create the seal seemed extraneous to Wyrmwood--who have a tendancy to just 'get things done' sometimes. And if they HAD asked me I would've had reminded them of the seal. BUT they didn't. Again, Wyrmwood defers to making decisions in house rather than seeking outside assistance. I reached out to Wyrmwood to remind them of the Seal dan had created once I saw the first one, but as you can imagine it was too late.

[TheGentlemanWake]

Here are some images of what the Seals would've looked like. Seeing as how The Gentleman Wake doesn't appear on the Groundskeeper box anywhere you can see how this was especially annoying to me to discover. Aside from the fact that I like bottom seals, that don't interfere or damage the tuck for opening.

NOTE that at the time of creation Cartamundi was still the printer.

[Evilgamer]

those are nice seals, bottom seals I imagine.

[laitostarr777]

Here are some images of what the Seals would've looked like. Seeing as how The Gentleman Wake doesn't appear on the Groundskeeper box anywhere you can see how this was especially annoying to me to discover. Aside from the fact that I like bottom seals, that don't interfere or damage the tuck for opening.

NOTE that at the time of creation Cartamundi was still the printer.

Daaang, these would be great addition for the decks.. too bad Wyrmwood didn’t approve

[PiazzaDelivery]

Yeah... This is leagues beyond what ended up on the decks. Would've elevated things as much as a seal can.

[Eric Lee]

Thanks for sharing what went on behind the scenes. Real shame those seals didn't get made and got lost in the process. (not to mention your part in the deck being completely left out) That would have been so classy to go with the deck.

[JazzBaloo]

Did all backers get their decks? I ask because I don't see any confirmation in the comments. There are a few people saying they didn't receive their's yet but none that I can see of the usual "got mine today, thanks" type of comments. According to the updates, fulfillment was near completion in July 2024. I vaguely remember Laito and someone else talking about deck quality issues so obviously some or maybe even most have got their decks.

[Honeybee]

???

Evil posted pics, Piazza said he got his, TGW provided link to buy from him

What made this pop into your head after 8 months?

[JazzBaloo]

???

Evil posted pics, Piazza said he got his, TGW provided link to buy from him

What made this pop into your head after 8 months?

Today was the second time recently that I was looking through old campaigns and came across it. I do assume most got their decks but because of the comments there I was curious as to just how many people didn't get them or got damaged ones. I'm interested in purchasing the deck, probably off tgw website. I've had some of the decks in my basket there for quite some time now but don't usually pay shipping prices for so few. I'm waiting to see what happens with Beetle Backs and The Corrupted decks to possibly add to the order. I have not seen people post in socials or do reviews on them. I am worried about any potential problems like damage or poor quality that could impact my decision. If there are good or bad things to say about them then it would be helpful to know. Edit: Skimming some past comments I see an issue with the seals and Piazza says the cards feel weird, whatever that means. Did you purchase them?

[Adamthinks]

???

Evil posted pics, Piazza said he got his, TGW provided link to buy from him

What made this pop into your head after 8 months?

Today was the second time recently that I was looking through old campaigns and came across it. I do assume most got their decks but because of the comments there I was curious as to just how many people didn't get them or got damaged ones. I'm interested in purchasing the deck, probably off tgw website. I've had some of the decks in my basket there for quite some time now but don't usually pay shipping prices for so few. I'm waiting to see what happens with Beetle Backs and The Corrupted decks to possibly add to the order. I have not seen people post in socials or do reviews on them. I am worried about any potential problems like damage or poor quality that could impact my decision. If there are good or bad things to say about them then it would be helpful to know. Edit: Skimming some past comments I see an issue with the seals and Piazza says the cards feel weird, whatever that means. Did you purchase them?

I got mine and really liked them. Goldsmith is one of the other newer decks from him this past year I'd recommend even stronger, those were spectacular. Probably my deck of the year. At least top 3.

[Disenchanted_11]

Got mine as well. Got some minor dinged corners due to the nature of WW packaging.
But even by looking at EvilGamer's photos above, I still can't shake the underwhelmed feeling about the Green luxury variant. It must be the weird aspect ratio, too thick borders. It doesn't strike the same as this prototype JoC photo from TGW website.


You can't go wrong with the foiling though, those green-gold backs are blinding.

[JazzBaloo]

They do look nice. I don't want any dinged decks though so hopefully tgw isn't sending any of those out. I guess i have to look up the card specs to figure out the odd feel of the cards deal and go from there. Thanks for the input.