Nightdreams and Daymares by Native Tongue

[NativeTongue]

Hey all, a mini update on this one for you guys...

Every item is currently in hand except for the decks themselves. After receiving the hard proofs last month I didn't feel like the tuck boxes matched what we were originally going for. Luckily all of the needed changes had to do with foils and paper stock. Those changes shouldn't create a significant delay, though I did not account for Legends being closed the entire month of January for Chinese New Year. I did send a few mini decks out for photos and to a handful of long time Patrons, which is why you may be seeing some pop up here and there.

With the paper/foil changes and the New Year delay I'll likely end up launching the next campaign (C.A.R.D.S.) a little before fulfillment of this one. Not something I particularly like doing, however, ultimately I'd like to stick to the strict release schedule I've planned out for the year. After the C.A.R.D.S. campaign I'm planning on doing a quick "bare-bones" campaign for the Nightdreams & Daymares Technicolor Edition.

Thanks again for the support everyone!
//Brad

[hsbc]

Good morning, everyone.

I was holding off on the update in hopes of having something good to report. At the same time I am also aware of the need to stay in constant communication with all of you. Unfortunately that's what this update is... keeping an open line of communication, as I still do not have the decks in my possession. While we continue to work toward getting them here what I HAVE managed to do is get all of the other items packaged up for shipment so that once they arrive we can drop in the decks and get them out the door. I apologize for any loss of confidence, however, I assure you I am not going anywhere and this project will be seen through to the end. You all believed in and supported both this project and myself and I take that very seriously.

FREE GIFT...

In an effort to thank all of you for your extreme patience, EVERY backer will now receive a FREE Nightdreams & Daymares deck with your pledge. I know it doesn't seem like much, but multiply that by 350 backers and it's not exactly insignificant either. The free deck will be either a Standard Nightdreams OR Standard Daymares. While I can't guarantee which you will get, if there was a version you didn't originally pledge for I will try my best to include that one to complete your set.

There is no action required on your end to receive your free deck. It will be automatically included with your pledge. I hope this at least does a little to rectify things and put your minds at ease.

Hopefully better news soon...

//Brad

[bdawg923]

An update is probably long overdue here.

[Strag]

Not responding to DMs on here or Kickstarter. Hasn't logged into KS in a month. I have $500 across this campaign and C.A.R.D.S.

Incredibly disappointing from a UC member to ghost backers like this. Once again bitten, that's it done with Kickstarter even for established producers. Just a joke at this point. Just no excuse to go dark.

[Adamthinks]

Not responding to DMs on here or Kickstarter. Hasn't logged into KS in a month. I have $500 across this campaign and C.A.R.D.S.

Incredibly disappointing from a UC member to ghost backers like this. Once again bitten, that's it done with Kickstarter even for established producers. Just a joke at this point. Just no excuse to go dark.

I'm still pretty confident that both projects will eventually ship. But project creators need to learn to stop ghosting when they don't have any new/good news. Delays and other shit happen, we all get that ( well, the great majority get that). But a couple sentences every month isn't difficult and is the minimum backers ask for. It goes a long way towards establishing and maintaining trust and growing a brand.

[bdawg923]

I also messaged him on Instagram. Didn't even read it. Really sucks to see from an established creator. The list of Kickstarter creators I can back gets smaller and smaller

[GandalfPC]

I reached out to him on Patreon to ask for kickstarter updates - pretty sure he will see that.

[bdawg923]

I reached out to him on Patreon to ask for kickstarter updates - pretty sure he will see that.

Seeing it is half the battle. The other half is getting a response.

[GandalfPC]

Indeed

[Harvonsgard]

I'm still pretty confident that both projects will eventually ship. But project creators need to learn to stop ghosting when they don't have any new/good news. Delays and other shit happen, we all get that ( well, the great majority get that). But a couple sentences every month isn't difficult and is the minimum backers ask for. It goes a long way towards establishing and maintaining trust and growing a brand.

Trust is the strongest currency. A shame that some creators/businesses don't get that.

[bdawg923]

He logged in on kickstarter for the first time in a month (on 9/17). I guess there's been no update on Patreon

[GandalfPC]

no answer to my message there yet, perhaps todays the lucky day

[bdawg923]

no answer to my message there yet, perhaps todays the lucky day

I admire your misplaced optimism

[GandalfPC]

I call it omnidirectional-optimism - its like optimism but less useful in practice.


It falls somewhere between “might as well” and “couldn’t hurt” - a lazier form of hope and faith.


It does slowly decay into sarcasm and disappointment over time, depending on the temperature of the room its kept in…

[GandalfPC]

He just checked in - I’ll let him fill in whatever details but suffice to say he’s back and his away time was as excusable as they come as far as I’m concerned.

[bdawg923]

Good to hear. Awaiting the ks updates

[bdawg923]

Good to hear. Awaiting the ks updates

Me waiting for Kickstarter updates

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[GandalfPC]

I would give it a few weeks before getting concerned - he popped up but I think he needs a deep breath and to figure out how much to say

[Drewser]

Not responding to DMs on here or Kickstarter. Hasn't logged into KS in a month. I have $500 across this campaign and C.A.R.D.S.

Incredibly disappointing from a UC member to ghost backers like this. Once again bitten, that's it done with Kickstarter even for established producers. Just a joke at this point. Just no excuse to go dark.

Haha wooo take it easy buddy haha

[Drewser]

I would give it a few weeks before getting concerned - he popped up but I think he needs a deep breath and to figure out how much to say

where is the highly sufficient excuse you boasted about?

[kevork]

Not responding to DMs on here or Kickstarter. Hasn't logged into KS in a month. I have $500 across this campaign and C.A.R.D.S.

Incredibly disappointing from a UC member to ghost backers like this. Once again bitten, that's it done with Kickstarter even for established producers. Just a joke at this point. Just no excuse to go dark.

Haha wooo take it easy buddy haha

Well, I empathize because this isn't the first time this has happened to long-time collectors, where an established and familiar name disappears and the emotional turmoil that results.

[GandalfPC]

I imagine the sufficient excuse is in the same state it was when reported - take a moments patience, cross fingers

[Drewser]

Not responding to DMs on here or Kickstarter. Hasn't logged into KS in a month. I have $500 across this campaign and C.A.R.D.S.

Incredibly disappointing from a UC member to ghost backers like this. Once again bitten, that's it done with Kickstarter even for established producers. Just a joke at this point. Just no excuse to go dark.

Haha wooo take it easy buddy haha

Well, I empathize because this isn't the first time this has happened to long-time collectors, where an established and familiar name disappears and the emotional turmoil that results.

A situation like this one with Brad can surely be understandable and people definitely ALWAYS have a right to their own opinion. Hope it works out for the best. Cheers!

[Evilgamer]

Not responding to DMs on here or Kickstarter. Hasn't logged into KS in a month. I have $500 across this campaign and C.A.R.D.S.

Incredibly disappointing from a UC member to ghost backers like this. Once again bitten, that's it done with Kickstarter even for established producers. Just a joke at this point. Just no excuse to go dark.

Haha wooo take it easy buddy haha

Well, I empathize because this isn't the first time this has happened to long-time collectors, where an established and familiar name disappears and the emotional turmoil that results.

Everyone has the right to approach anything how they see fit, especially where an amount of money is involved. But swearing off all Kickstarters is a pretty strong reaction, especially when it could result in either increasing cost to acquire decks or just not being able to get them at all. I think the last of those would be the one that drove me the most nuts.

And yes Ive certainly had KS campaigns Ive funded go south.

[Strag]

This was more the straw that broken the Camel's back for me. Of course it's not just this one, but the list of Kickstarters I have backed that didn't deliver and/or ghosted backers is just far too long. I haven't added up the money it's cost me and I don't want to, but it's definitely mid 4-figs (that is, around $5K). So yeah, I don't think swearing off all Kickstarters is a bridge too far.

In terms of increasing costs to acquire decks, it can actually often be the opposite where I am able to acquire decks in the aftermarket for less, and with little to no risk.

Overall I am rethinking my approach to collecting and as a few people on here know, I've actually started to sell off parts of my collection, albeit very slowly.

[Strag]

I would give it a few weeks before getting concerned - he popped up but I think he needs a deep breath and to figure out how much to say

Do you have any more info? It's now over 3 weeks since this and we have heard nothing.

[GandalfPC]

No more info, keeping fingers crossed

[bdawg923]

Tell us Gandalf

[GandalfPC]

I don’t feel at liberty to divulge more from a private conversation - nor am I in a position to confirm or deny its truth - so we will just have to trust, cross fingers, and hope for the best…

[bdawg923]

I have lost all hope..